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Shaun · 13-12-2017, 07:28 PM

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The government has been narrowly defeated in a key vote on its Brexit bill after a rebellion by Tory MPs.

In a blow to Prime Minister Theresa May, MPs voted to give Parliament a legal guarantee of a vote on the final Brexit deal struck with Brussels.

The government had argued this would jeopardise its chances of delivering a smooth Brexit.

The amendment to the EU Withdrawal Bill tabled by ex-Attorney General Dominic Grieve was backed by 309 to 305.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42346192

arista · 13-12-2017, 07:48 PM

Waste of time.
We are still going out in 2019 March.

smudgie · 13-12-2017, 07:51 PM

If they waste time I would imagine we would leave with a hard Brexit.
Can't wait until it's done and sorted one way or another.
Roll on March 2019.

arista · 13-12-2017, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by NanaChristmas

If they waste time I would imagine we would leave with a hard Brexit.
Can't wait until it's done and sorted one way or another.
Roll on March 2019.

Yes
the PM is on her way to the EU Summit.

4 votes
will not change this

Ref : 2 MP's on Ch4HD news and SkyNewsHD,

DemolitionRed · 13-12-2017, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by arista

Yes
the PM is on her way to the EU Summit.

4 votes
will not change this

Ref : 2 MP's on Ch4HD news and SkyNewsHD,

Oh but it might. May may arrive at the EU summit to be told that she can't negotiate for a position of power because she has no authority. Its a bit like a company going in to make a big deal, they need to sit down with the man who has the authority to make that deal and not the salesman.

May at this present time, is only the salesman

Kizzy · 13-12-2017, 07:52 PM

Excellent news, at last something democratic about brexit!

Wizard. · 13-12-2017, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Christmas treeza

Excellent news, at last something democratic about brexit!

What are you on about? The referendum was democratic

Brillopad · 13-12-2017, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mariah Christmas

What are you on about? The referendum was democratic

The hardline left think something is only democratic when they say so.

Kizzy · 13-12-2017, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad

The hardline left think something is only democratic when they say so.

Hard line left?....Not a concerned citizen with genuine concerns?
No you have to make my critique appear as an irrational outburst.... have you ever thought of a career as a tabloid journalist? You're a natural

The referendum was based on a lie, a lie that the NHS would be fully funded, it most certainly is not.
Many should feel duped, as you most certainly were on that.

Brillopad · 13-12-2017, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Christmas treeza

Hard line left?....Not a concerned citizen with genuine concerns?
No you have to make my critique appear as an irrational outburst.... have you ever thought of a career as a tabloid journalist? You're a natural

The referendum was based on a lie, a lie that the NHS would be fully funded, it most certainly is not.
Many should feel duped, as you most certainly were on that.

So the remoaners keep telling us. If anyone is being duped it’s Corbyn’s followers. He changes his mind at every turn to suit.

Brillopad · 13-12-2017, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Christmas treeza

Hard line left?....Not a concerned citizen with genuine concerns?
No you have to make my critique appear as an irrational outburst.... have you ever thought of a career as a tabloid journalist? You're a natural

The referendum was based on a lie, a lie that the NHS would be fully funded, it most certainly is not.
Many should feel duped, as you most certainly were on that.

From one concerned citizen to another. You don’t have the monopoly on concern - just different concerns.

Scarlett. · 14-12-2017, 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Mariah Christmas

What are you on about? The referendum was democratic

and so is the elected MPs of Parliament having a say in Brexit

It's not one or the other.

Brillopad · 13-12-2017, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Christmas treeza

Excellent news, at last something democratic about brexit!

What’s democratic is we are leaving as per the referendum result. If those constantly trying to intervere in a desperate attempt to overturn the original result continue we will end up with a hard Brexit: which will probaly be better than the soft mess the remoaners are after.

Crimson Dynamo · 13-12-2017, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Christmas treeza

Excellent news, at last something democratic about brexit!

joeysteele · 13-12-2017, 08:02 PM

A good result, common sense.
Well done to the Con MPs and indeed all other Parties MPs too,who refused to allow parliament to just be taken for granted and for fools.

Brillopad · 13-12-2017, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele

A good result, common sense.
Well done to the Con MPs and indeed all other Parties MPs too,who refused to allow parliament to just be taken for granted and for fools.

Say hello to the resulting hard Brexit then.

Wizard. · 13-12-2017, 08:12 PM

Yeah let Jeremy Corbyn lead a vote of no deal on the Brexit deal then we have to leave on no trade terms business go bust the economy goes into recession and we FINALLY get rid of the old bastard!

Kizzy · 13-12-2017, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mariah Christmas

Yeah let Jeremy Corbyn lead a vote of no deal on the Brexit deal then we have to leave on no trade terms business go bust the economy goes into recession and we FINALLY get rid of the old bastard!

Ooof! hark at the language on here... Lowers the tone doesn't it brillo?

Kizzy · 13-12-2017, 08:30 PM

Well well well...dare to defy the autocracy?...

Tory MP Stephen Hammond has been sacked as vice-chairman of the Conservative Party after he rebelled against the Government on a key Brexit vote.

Put a claim in for unfair dismissal

surely all the rebels will be going?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a8108691.html

Shaun · 13-12-2017, 08:52 PM

It's almost as if 'Brexit' was a complex process that would require more than one 52% referendum, before any of its consequences played out, to proceed with

Crimson Dynamo · 13-12-2017, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Carole of the Bells

It's almost as if 'Brexit' was a complex process that would require more than one 52% referendum, before any of its consequences played out, to proceed with

yes and its almost like hindsight suddenly is available as an app..

Shaun · 13-12-2017, 09:24 PM

No it's just available as Parliamentary process! Sorry you hate democracy!

Crimson Dynamo · 13-12-2017, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Carole of the Bells

No it's just available as Parliamentary process! Sorry you hate democracy!

i dont hate it and i dont hate it when it goes against my opinion either

user104658 · 14-12-2017, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Isaiah 7:14

i dont hate it and i dont hate it when it goes against my opinion either

You don't seem to like it much either, though. This vote failed for the tories because a sufficient number of democratically elected MPs - voted for by the public just as the referendum was, and so representatives of the public - didn't think it was the right thing for the country and voted against it.

But you don't seem too happy about that... Because it goes against your opinion?