[Wizard.]

Well should she? Maggie implies Ann could’ve done something about it. Maybe she hates Maggie out of guilt.

[Denver]

No its the viewers who accepted it kmt

[Wizard.]

Originally Posted by Adam.

No its the viewers who accepted it kmt

I don’t mean Ann specifically but people who had power.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Riley.

Well should she? Maggie implies Ann could’ve done something about it. Maybe she hates Maggie out of guilt.

How could it be Anns fault I am sure if she could have done something she would

[Wizard.]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

How could it be Anns fault I am sure if she could have done something she would

Well you would think she would’ve asked Maggie about it but she doesn’t want to draw attention to it because she knows she would face hot fire

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Riley.

Well you would think she would’ve asked Maggie about it but she doesn’t want to draw attention to it because she knows she would face hot fire

Ann probably knows alllll about it. And blaming one solitary MP is ridiculous. You can't blame the police exclusively, you can't blame the lily-livered council exclusively... no one person or set of people were to blame it was a series of unforgivable failings by a series of agencies.

[Wizard.]

Originally Posted by Livia

Ann probably knows alllll about it. And blaming one solitary MP is ridiculous. You can't blame the police exclusively, you can't blame the lily-livered council exclusively... no one person or set of people were to blame it was a series of unforgivable failings by a series of agencies.

I'm not saying she should be blamed, I'm saying can Maggie say it. And Ann probably does know about it but totally ignoring Maggie and not showing any interest in her work as a public police officer as Ann herself held public office just seems really odd to me.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Riley.

I'm not saying she should be blamed, I'm saying can Maggie say it. And Ann probably does know about it but totally ignoring Maggie and not showing any interest in her work as a public police officer as Ann herself held public office just seems really odd to me.

Anne is restricted in what she can say by the official secrets act. She cant spout forth on any old topic. Also BB is hardly the platform to discuss such things

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Riley.

I'm not saying she should be blamed, I'm saying can Maggie say it. And Ann probably does know about it but totally ignoring Maggie and not showing any interest in her work as a public police officer as Ann herself held public office just seems really odd to me.

Ann is in CBB a game show why do they need to air private stuff like that,there could be many reasons it wasn't mentioned and as someone said if it pissed Maggie off that much why didn't she mention it to Ann ? sorry but I just think this is sour grapes.on Maggies part

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Riley.

I'm not saying she should be blamed, I'm saying can Maggie say it. And Ann probably does know about it but totally ignoring Maggie and not showing any interest in her work as a public police officer as Ann herself held public office just seems really odd to me.

You know, there were lots of people who, at the time, weren't MPs. Why aren't we blaming them? How much interest did Maggie take in Ann's career?

Ann is under no obligation to talk about anything.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Riley.

I'm not saying she should be blamed, I'm saying can Maggie say it. And Ann probably does know about it but totally ignoring Maggie and not showing any interest in her work as a public police officer as Ann herself held public office just seems really odd to me.

Ann’s not even an MP anymore.She does dancing shows and reality TV.Maybe she doesn’t want to talk about serious subjects like that and just wants to enjoy what she’s doing now.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

How could it be Anns fault I am sure if she could have done something she would

Ann was shadow Home secretary in 2001 and still a leading conservative up till 2010. The Rochdale investigation started 2004 so I would agree it was a bit odd that Ann didn't even ask Maggie anything about it

[lewis111]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

How could it be Anns fault I am sure if she could have done something she would

I'm not implying she could've done anything cause I don't know
But I don't think it's fair to say she would have if she could given her voting records on other things - she thinks about her self not anyone else

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by lewis111

I'm not implying she could've done anything cause I don't know
But I don't think it's fair to say she would have if she could given her voting records on other things - she thinks about her self not anyone else

And I don't think it's fair to blame someone for something we know very little about

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

And I don't think it's fair to blame someone for something we know very little about

Well look,I am now a staunch Labour supporter however they were the govt.then
Ann was only shadow Home Secretary,who takes much notice of shadow ministers really,even if they should.

It's the Labour Home Secretary of the time who should have to give some answers to that issue.

Just as now, it should be the serving Home Secretary who gets the flack on issues as bad as that.
Not the opposition spokesmen/women.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Well look,I am now a staunch Labour supporter however they were the govt.then
Ann was only shadow Home Secretary,who takes much notice of shadow ministers really,even if they should.

It's the Labour Home Secretary of the time who should have to give some answers to that issue.

Just as now, it should be the serving Home Secretary who gets the flack on issues as bad as that.
Not the opposition spokesmen/women.

Thanks for that info Joey,

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Well look,I am now a staunch Labour supporter however they were the govt.then
Ann was only shadow Home Secretary,who takes much notice of shadow ministers really,even if they should.

It's the Labour Home Secretary of the time who should have to give some answers to that issue.

Just as now, it should be the serving Home Secretary who gets the flack on issues as bad as that.
Not the opposition spokesmen/women.

So it wasn't Ann's responsibility to do anything about it, but could she have done something about it? Genuine question, I'm not sure about much of this tbh, and that seems to be what Maggie was getting at... she's just stated on BOTS with some certainty that Ann could have done something to stop it.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Well look,I am now a staunch Labour supporter however they were the govt.then
Ann was only shadow Home Secretary,who takes much notice of shadow ministers really,even if they should.

It's the Labour Home Secretary of the time who should have to give some answers to that issue.

Just as now, it should be the serving Home Secretary who gets the flack on issues as bad as that.
Not the opposition spokesmen/women.

Thank you Joey for showing fairness. I think she was shadow home secretary in 1995 which was quite a while before the Rochdale case came up and I doubt as shadow she would have been party to information unless it was in the press at the time.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

How could it be Anns fault I am sure if she could have done something she would

Ann retired in 2010.

[Maru]

Originally Posted by Riley.

Well should she? Maggie implies Ann could’ve done something about it. Maybe she hates Maggie out of guilt.

I think Ann is probably used to it tbh.

[poppsywoppsy]

Shadow Home Secretary does not mean Ann was in power.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

Shadow Home Secretary does not mean Ann was in power.

You have that right

But the timeline clearly shows Ann was still an MP and a leading conservative figure while the investigation was going on so I still think it was odd that she - according to Maggie - never even mentioned it or asked Maggie about it.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

You have that right

But the timeline clearly shows Ann was still an MP and a leading conservative figure while the investigation was going on so I still think it was odd that she - according to Maggie - never even mentioned it or asked Maggie about it.

Well maybe Ann thought it too sensitive a subject and private to be airing it on BB, who knows maybe Emma will ask her

[Cherie]

Why didn't Maggie mention the minister, the shadow Minster doesn't have a lot of power

Maggie same across as pretty bitter maybe she though she would win given her background

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Why didn't Maggie mention the minister, the shadow Minster doesn't have a lot of power

SHe wasnt asked about the Minister she was asked about Ann

Another thing, Ann has never married or had children so why did she have such a reaction to the pregnancy task?