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Old 11-02-2019, 01:27 PM #1
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Nicola Sturgeon has reaffirmed her intention to call another referendum on Scottish independence once the final details of Brexit have been worked out.
The First Minister used an appearance on a US talk show over the weekend to declare her belief that a majority of Scots would back a Yes vote in a possible IndyRef2 within the next five years.
The timing of another constitutional vote has the subject of intense debate among grassroots SNP members and senior politicians in recent months, with some urging the party leader to stage a plebiscite on the issue this year, while others urge a more cautious approach.
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so from brexit to UKxit

wait this was my idea few months back if i remember correctly
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I'll say the same thing to Scotland as I said to the Brexiters during the Brexit Referendum.

You can't beat a bigger block than yourselves, the UK as a whole is a bigger block than Scotland individually therefore will survive a lot better initially and will get all of the better deals and trade blocks during negotiations if Scotland were to pull out of the UK, just like the UK can't beat a union of 27 other countries in negotiations.

However personally I might plan on moving to Scotland if they vote to leave just so I can escape the Tories and Labour.
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I'll say the same thing to Scotland as I said to the Brexiters during the Brexit Referendum.

You can't beat a bigger block than yourselves, the UK as a whole is a bigger block than Scotland individually therefore will survive a lot better initially and will get all of the better deals and trade blocks during negotiations if Scotland were to pull out of the UK, just like the UK can't beat a union of 27 other countries in negotiations.

However personally I might plan on moving to Scotland if they vote to leave just so I can escape the Tories and Labour.
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if Scotland wants to be independent so be it. I don't think the SNP will find it that easy
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I'll say the same thing to Scotland as I said to the Brexiters during the Brexit Referendum.

You can't beat a bigger block than yourselves, the UK as a whole is a bigger block than Scotland individually therefore will survive a lot better initially and will get all of the better deals and trade blocks during negotiations if Scotland were to pull out of the UK, just like the UK can't beat a union of 27 other countries in negotiations.

However personally I might plan on moving to Scotland if they vote to leave just so I can escape the Tories and Labour.


Yes some Brit Folks have said the same.
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Nicola Sturgeon has reaffirmed her intention to call another referendum on Scottish independence once the final details of Brexit have been worked out.
The First Minister used an appearance on a US talk show over the weekend to declare her belief that a majority of Scots would back a Yes vote in a possible IndyRef2 within the next five years.
The timing of another constitutional vote has the subject of intense debate among grassroots SNP members and senior politicians in recent months, with some urging the party leader to stage a plebiscite on the issue this year, while others urge a more cautious approach.

Hang on - Vote has to come first
can she win it?

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We settled this in 2014. It's a bad idea.
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We settled this in 2014. It's a bad idea.


Yes but after Brexit
the SNP in Scotland and Westminster
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I think it's fair to give Scotland another referendum just like I think the fair thing to do in the face of a no deal Brexit is another referendum asking whether we want a no deal exit or another option.

The situation has changed since the last referendum, the majority of Scotland didn't vote for Brexit and it's only fair they get the choice of whether or not they want to be with us or not.

Give us the choice of choosing a no deal brexit, give Scotland the choice of whether or not they want to stay with us.

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I think it's fair to give Scotland another referendum just like I think the fair thing to do in the face of a no deal Brexit is another referendum asking whether we want a no deal exit or another option.

The situation has changed since the last referendum, the majority of Scotland didn't vote for Brexit and it's only fair they get the choice of whether or not they want to be with us or not.

Give us the choice of choosing a no deal brexit, give Scotland the choice of whether or not they want to stay with us or not.
This pretty much sums up my opinion
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I think it's fair to give Scotland another referendum just like I think the fair thing to do in the face of a no deal Brexit is another referendum asking whether we want a no deal exit or another option.

The situation has changed since the last referendum, the majority of Scotland didn't vote for Brexit and it's only fair they get the choice of whether or not they want to be with us or not.

Give us the choice of choosing a no deal brexit, give Scotland the choice of whether or not they want to stay with us or not.

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I think it's fair to give Scotland another referendum just like I think the fair thing to do in the face of a no deal Brexit is another referendum asking whether we want a no deal exit or another option.

The situation has changed since the last referendum, the majority of Scotland didn't vote for Brexit and it's only fair they get the choice of whether or not they want to be with us or not.

Give us the choice of choosing a no deal brexit, give Scotland the choice of whether or not they want to stay with us or not.
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David could Hack it
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I think it's fair to give Scotland another referendum just like I think the fair thing to do in the face of a no deal Brexit is another referendum asking whether we want a no deal exit or another option.

The situation has changed since the last referendum, the majority of Scotland didn't vote for Brexit and it's only fair they get the choice of whether or not they want to be with us or not.

Give us the choice of choosing a no deal brexit, give Scotland the choice of whether or not they want to stay with us.
ALL of scotland voted as brits in the brexit vote, britain voted to leave, so britain leaves..doesnt matter if you are welsh irish english or even scottish...you voted as a brit, not as a scot or a welshman...so you exit as a brit.
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ALL of scotland voted as brits in the brexit vote, britain voted to leave, so britain leaves..doesnt matter if you are welsh irish english or even scottish...you voted as a brit, not as a scot or a welshman...so you exit as a brit.
England and Wales were the majority when it came to brexit, Northern Ireland and Scotland voted Remain for the most part, It's only diplomatic that countries within the union that didn't vote for the outcome get to decide whether or not they want to go along with it or not.
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England and Wales were the majority when it came to brexit, Northern Ireland and Scotland voted Remain for the most part, It's only diplomatic that countries within the union that didn't vote for the outcome get to decide whether or not they want to go along with it or not.
Do that then you should break it down to counties or maybe even individuals and perhaps they should decide if they go along with it!
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Do that then you should break it down to counties or maybe even individuals and perhaps they should decide if they go along with it!
Only if you consider Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales to be equivalent to English counties, which is simply false.
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Do that then you should break it down to counties or maybe even individuals and perhaps they should decide if they go along with it!
Please tell me I don't have to describe the differences between countries and counties and why your argument is ridiculous.
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