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Old 23-03-2019, 06:02 PM #1
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"Went to a fancy dress party and something clicked"

I don't blame him, it's fooking horrible being a man today. I'm thinking about changing sex myself, just for the perks.
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I don't blame him, it's fooking horrible being a man today. I'm thinking about changing sex myself, just for the perks.
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Whether or not you "can tell" is she biologically male, it's obvious for her hair, makeup, and clothing she identifies as a woman. Misgendering is a crappy thing to do, and while I don't believe it should ever be a legal matter, I hope the train sends her an apology letter, and it would be nice if they included a return journey of her choice.

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It's been a while since I worked in retail but I do remember you "glaze over" and don't really notice what people look like, so in the second case I'd give the guard the benefit of the doubt that he was in autopilot and responded purely to the voice and ticket
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I kinda understand the guard a bit. When I worked in Asda and I was serving one person after the next I could sometimes misgender by total accident
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Just watched the whole thing and honestly...big deal over nothing.

I fully support anyone's choice of course but she still has a very deep voice and a quite masculine face - I can totally understand how she could be misgendered just from a glimpse. Seems to be about money.
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Just watched the whole thing and honestly...big deal over nothing.

I fully support anyone's choice of course but she still has a very deep voice and a quite masculine face - I can totally understand how she could be misgendered just from a glimpse. Seems to be about money.
Exactly! She's got a deep ****ing voice for **** sake.

If blindfolded and you heard her voice, I guarantee the majority of people would think that's a man.
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Just watched the whole thing and honestly...big deal over nothing.
It's really easy to say this from the prospective of a cis person who's never gone through the trauma of feeling like you're in the wrong body. while this may not seem like a big deal to you to trans people misgendering can be extremely hurtful.

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Exactly! She's got a deep ****ing voice for **** sake.

If blindfolded and you heard her voice, I guarantee the majority of people would think that's a man.
Yeah her voice is deep but I've met old ladies with deeper voices. If they can see she's clearly presenting as female I don't see why they would get confused.
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It's really easy to say this from the prospective of a cis person who's never gone through the trauma of feeling like you're in the wrong body. while this may not seem like a big deal to you to trans people misgendering can be extremely hurtful.



Yeah her voice is deep but I've met old ladies with deeper voices. If they can see she's clearly presenting as female I don't see why they would get confused.
My heart bleeds! for someone's hurty feelings.

Why should we care?

Do she care about the hurt feelings that we have in our lives?
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My heart bleeds! for someone's hurty feelings.

Why should we care?

Do she care about the hurt feelings that we have in our lives?
Sis is asking from an apology from the rail company? Not you?? I don't think anyone is concerned with you not caring.
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Why should we care?

Do she care about the hurt feelings that we have in our lives?
She's my nan so yes she cares about my hurt feelings idk about yours tho
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It's really easy to say this from the prospective of a cis person who's never gone through the trauma of feeling like you're in the wrong body. while this may not seem like a big deal to you to trans people misgendering can be extremely hurtful.

Yeah her voice is deep but I've met old ladies with deeper voices. If they can see she's clearly presenting as female I don't see why they would get confused.
So hurtful £2500 compensation will make her feel better though...

Not saying I know how she feels but truthfully she doesn't look or sound feminine so mistakes will happen, she never even corrected the first person and the second denied doing it so is likely to have seen her or heard her for a split second and never thought much of it, is thst really worth compensation?
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So hurtful £2500 compensation will make her feel better though...

Not saying I know how she feels but truthfully she doesn't look or sound feminine so mistakes will happen, she never even corrected the first person and the second denied doing it so is likely to have seen her or heard her for a split second and never thought much of it, is thst really worth compensation?
The £2500 compensation will probably make southern rail think a bit more about how seriously they take complains like her's, from the sounds of it when she flagged it up she was dismissed.

also no offence to old ladies but a few of them are a tad masculine.
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That's how she earns her money.
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As always it comes down to intent; if it's a genuine mistake or misunderstanding that's one thing. If it's being done deliberately or in a pointed way then that's another matter.
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Even non-trans people get mis-gendered from time to time. It happens.

I had the misfortune of being mistaken for my mother's husband once () I didn't go on This Morning to cry discrimination. A mistake is a mistake.
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I had the misfortune of being mistaken for my mother's husband once () I didn't go on This Morning to cry discrimination. A mistake is a mistake.
I think you should get in touch with This Morning and see if they'll do your story.

I mean, you were falsely accused of incest in your story.
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I had the misfortune of being mistaken for my mother's husband once () I didn't go on This Morning to cry discrimination. A mistake is a mistake.
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