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Twosugars · 02-08-2019, 01:01 PM

Trump's words being taken one step further.
We've reached stage two in a potential chain of events: Trump-gunshop-customer-act of violence

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'How is this not inciting violence?': gun shop billboard targets the Squad
North Carolina billboard calls congresswomen ‘The 4 Horsemen’ in what anti-gun violence advocates call an incitement to violence

A billboard erected by the store Cherokee Guns. Photograph: Cherokee Guns via Facebook
A gun shop in North Carolina has erected an advertising billboard invoking an apocalyptic prophesy to mock the progressive Democrats Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York, Ilhan Omar of Minnesota, Rashida Tlaib of Michigan and Ayanna Pressley of Massachusetts in what anti-gun violence advocates call an incitement to violence.

The billboard, which went up over the weekend, puts images of the four progressive Democratic congresswomen under the phrase “The 4 Horsemen Cometh”, and goes on to describe them as “idiots”.

The Cherokee Guns’ owner, Doc Wacholz, has denied that the billboard on Route 64 outside Murphy is a deliberate provocation. “I’m not inciting any violence or being racist. It’s a statement. It’s an opinion,” he told the Asheville Citizen Times.

However, he then made racist and incorrect statements about the four leftwing congresswomen of color.

“They’re socialists, from my point of view. I also feel a couple of them, being Muslim, have ties to actual terrorists groups,” he said.

The signage joins previous Cherokee Guns billboards that have depicted words or images designed to denigrate Muslim Americans.

In 2017, the store posted an ad for “INFIDEL ARMAMENT” it read in block letters above Arabic script and a rifle. In 2015 the Asheville Citizen-Times reported a billboard that said: “Give me your tired, your poor … Keep your Syrian refugees.”

The incident comes after Donald Trump issued provocative tweets telling Omar, who is Somali American, and her colleagues to “go back” to where they came from. The four congresswomen have become known as “the Squad” and are prominent and vocal critics of the president.

But some groups warned that Wacholz’s advert is a step toward actual violence.

“Threats against members of Congress, particularly minority members, are [trending upward] and it is driven by the president’s racial rhetoric,” the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence wrote in a statement. “This is dangerous!!!”

In a tweet on Wednesday evening, Tlaib asked how the billboard could not be considered an aggressive inducement.

“How the hell is this not inciting violence?” she wrote.

Pressley tweeted: “#Racist rhetoric from the occupant of the @WhiteHouse has made hate our new normal. We are still vulnerable.”

But appeals for civility appear to be falling on deaf ears. Wacholz amped up his attack when the store posted a statement on Facebook that said it planned to produce clothing with the billboard’s image.

“Alright my fellow Infidels for Trump … due to OVERWHELMING demand … you may come by the shop (next week) and get your very own FOUR HORSEMEN COMETH STICKER … simple … eat a piece of bacon … tell us you’re voting for Trump in 2020 … then get your limited edition bumper sticker! (While supplies last!) Snowflakes and Liberals are not eligible … sorry

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...tlaib-pressley

Oliver_W · 02-08-2019, 01:10 PM

As disgusting as this is, I don't see how it's related to Trump - lots of people mock them.

Twosugars · 02-08-2019, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W

As disgusting as this is, I don't see how it's related to Trump - lots of people mock them.

Had they been targeted as a group before trump started his hateful crusade?

Oliver_W · 02-08-2019, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Twosugars

Had they been targeted as a group before trump started his hateful crusade?

I don't follow that stuff too much so not sure, AOC and Omar certainly were lumped in together.

Is it a "hateful crusade"? I thought he only mentioned them once.

Twosugars · 02-08-2019, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I don't follow that stuff too much so not sure, AOC and Omar certainly were lumped in together.

Is it a "hateful crusade"? I thought he only mentioned them once.

Unless you can show otherwise, the link between trump and the above stands
But for a laugh you can try more of your moral gymnastics

bitontheslide · 02-08-2019, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I don't follow that stuff too much so not sure, AOC and Omar certainly were lumped in together.

Is it a "hateful crusade"? I thought he only mentioned them once.

trump has mentioned the "squad" loads of times in the last couple of weeks, targeting them. so, yes, he has been on a hateful crusade

MB. · 02-08-2019, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I don't follow that stuff too much so not sure, AOC and Omar certainly were lumped in together.

Is it a "hateful crusade"? I thought he only mentioned them once.

...yeah, I can tell you "don't follow that stuff too much"

Oliver_W · 02-08-2019, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MB.

...yeah, I can tell you "don't follow that stuff too much"

Then show me the things I missed?

LeatherTrumpet · 02-08-2019, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Twosugars

Had they been targeted as a group before trump started his hateful crusade?

they are pretty hateful people so what do they expect?

fan mail?

Twosugars · 02-08-2019, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

they are pretty hateful people so what do they expect?

fan mail?

How are they hateful? Provide evidence

LeatherTrumpet · 02-08-2019, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Twosugars

How are they hateful? Provide evidence

Ms Omar is an anti-Semite for example as is Ms Tlaib

not nice

all they do is call the president a white supremicist and aracist whilst peddling their failed and unrealistic socialist adgenda

just vile

Moniqua · 02-08-2019, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

they are pretty hateful people so what do they expect?

fan mail?

Toy Soldier · 02-08-2019, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W

As disgusting as this is, I don't see how it's related to Trump - lots of people mock them.

Livia · 02-08-2019, 01:40 PM

Trump did lump them together. That's true.

But then they ran with it with all their might. And now someone's called them idiots. I hear worse on here every day. Every hour...

Toy Soldier · 02-08-2019, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia

Trump did lump them together. That's true.

But then they ran with it with all their might. And now someone's called them idiots. I hear worse on here every day. Every hour...

The issue isn't them being called idiots, it's them being lined up in a row on an advertising billboard for a gun shop clearly designed to evoke a "target practise" image. A dumb and thinly-veiled threat. It's not a very realistic one and I don't think it's going to immediately lead to any attempts on their lives, but it is part of a very dark attitude that's slowly but surely creeping in, that is inevitably going to end in someone being hurt as a political target.

Livia · 02-08-2019, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

The issue isn't them being called idiots, it's them being lined up in a row on an advertising billboard for a gun shop clearly designed to evoke a "target practise" image. A dumb and thinly-veiled threat. It's not a very realistic one and I don't think it's going to immediately lead to any attempts on their lives, but it is part of a very dark attitude that's slowly but surely creeping in, that is inevitably going to end in someone being hurt as a political target.

Death threats are not the appalling thing they used to be, I'm told.

And at least two of them are anti-Semites. And two wrongs don't make a right.

Ammi · 03-08-2019, 05:40 AM

The Cherokee Guns’ owner, Doc Wacholz, has denied that the billboard on Route 64 outside Murphy is a deliberate provocation. “I’m not inciting any violence or being racist. It’s a statement. It’s an opinion,” he told the Asheville Citizen Times.

...I wonder if it was four people in his own family whose images were up there, if he would still feel ...’it’s a statement, it’s an opinion..’...what an incredibly reckless action...but someone else’s family members so...

Withano · 02-08-2019, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia

Trump did lump them together. That's true.

But then they ran with it with all their might. And now someone's called them idiots. I hear worse on here every day. Every hour...

The word ‘Idiots’ is the main story here. Yep. End of. Nice analysis skills once again livz.

arista · 02-08-2019, 01:53 PM

Typical USA
to help sell more Guns

Oliver_W · 02-08-2019, 02:13 PM

If you're going to say something happened without backing it up, me saying "no it didn't" holds just as much water.

He only mentioned them once

Tom4784 · 02-08-2019, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W

If you're going to say something happened without backing it up, me saying "no it didn't" holds just as much water.

He only mentioned them once

Refusing to do your own research because you don't want to be proven wrong doesn't make what you are saying true. Willing reality to be different doesn't alter the facts. He's been talking about them endlessly.