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Kizzy · 06-10-2019, 10:36 AM

Enjoy!...

'Since Johnson launched his Tory leadership bid – just over 100 days ago – he has lied and misled his Party, Parliament and the public at least 80 times.'

https://insider.labour.org.uk/factch...johnson-lying/

arista · 06-10-2019, 10:57 AM

[Johnson suggested that one of the reasons why he wanted a Queen’s Speech was to pass the Domestic Abuse Bill.
25 September 2019]

Hang on Kizzy that was Debated last week.

He could not do his Queens Speech
As Labour got the Courts to Stop Him

Now the Queens Speech arrives next week

Handy Collection
of "some" rubbish info.

Kizzy · 06-10-2019, 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista

[Johnson suggested that one of the reasons why he wanted a Queen’s Speech was to pass the Domestic Abuse Bill.
25 September 2019]

Hang on Kizzy that was Debated last week.

He could not do his Queens Speech
As Labour got the Courts to Stop Him

Now the Queens Speech arrives next week

Handy Collection
of "some" rubbish info.

It was initially due to be debated in the middle of the prorogation period, so if he'd have wanted it passed he couldve kept parliament open debated it and passed it by now :/
It's very interesting info imo.

arista · 06-10-2019, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizzy

It was initially due to be debated in the middle of the prorogation period, so if he'd have wanted it passed he couldve kept parliament open debated it and passed it by now :/
It's very interesting info imo.

To you

Its a Delay
not a Lie

Oliver_W · 06-10-2019, 11:12 AM

Some of these are scraping the barrel a bit.

"Boris said Oxford were on the verge of something, BUT ACKSHULLY it will take about 30 years!"

"Boris said 30 new hospitals would be built without saying in what time scale, but ACKSHULY it won't be until 2025!!!"

This site could have been handy, but it soiled the bed a bit. Maybe they should have only included outright lies, rather than language policing and including things which are still in the air.

Kizzy · 06-10-2019, 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Some of these are scraping the barrel a bit.

"Boris said Oxford were on the verge of something, BUT ACKSHULLY it will take about 30 years!"

"Boris said 30 new hospitals would be built without saying in what time scale, but ACKSHULY it won't be until 2025!!!"

This site could have been handy, but it soiled the bed a bit. Maybe they should have only included outright lies, rather than language policing and including things which are still in the air.

It includes examples of misleading information. .That's what saying things are imminent when they'll take 30 years is.

Oliver_W · 06-10-2019, 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizzy

It includes examples of misleading information. .That's what saying things are imminent when they'll take 30 years is.

That's just word games. I'd respect the list a whole lot more if it shown ten outright LIES instead of picking at political language.

Beso · 06-10-2019, 11:16 AM

Nothing new...MPs have been doing this since the house of commons was built..on all sides..

Kazanne · 06-10-2019, 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parmnion

Nothing new...MPs have been doing this since the house of commons was built..on all sides..

Yep,totally TRUE

https://medium.com/@takooba/the-moun...n-56b0c5e739e3
https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2017/0...d-andrew-neil/
https://order-order.com/2017/05/26/c...never-met-ira/

bots · 06-10-2019, 12:11 PM

i would say Corbyn has lied or misled more than 80 times on the subject of antisemitism alone.

Kizzy · 06-10-2019, 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i would say Corbyn has lied or misled more than 80 times on the subject of antisemitism alone.

Come on them bots put your money where your mouth is . Where are these lies?
What's that phrase again? . Whataboutism? ..

Twosugars · 06-10-2019, 12:24 PM

A great thread , Kizzy

Expose the lying clown

Marsh. · 06-10-2019, 12:46 PM

"Political language" = lies

Alf · 06-10-2019, 12:52 PM

It could be worse, he could be trying to deny the will of the people.

Twosugars · 06-10-2019, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alf

It could be worse, he could be trying to deny the will of the people.

He is. People didn't vote for no deal

Alf · 06-10-2019, 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twosugars

He is. People didn't vote for no deal

What did they vote for?

Give me a factual answer.

joeysteele · 06-10-2019, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twosugars

He is. People didn't vote for no deal

That's right, you are correct.

This parliament was elected a year after the referendum
It took away the Con overall majority.
Making it a hung Parliament.
With not one MP who stood on a Party manifesto advocating leaving with, no deal.
Being elected in that election.
Not one.
UKIP slipping badly too.

Even the DUP weren't standing on a no deal brexit.
All Parties against same.

So this parliament is doing the will of the voters who elected it just 2+ years ago.

Alf · 06-10-2019, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Nobody asked about leaving single market or customs union on the ballot so we are staying in those

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele

That's right, you are correct.

This parliament was elected a year after the referendum
It took away the Con overall majority.
Making it a hung Parliament.
With not one MP who stood on a Party manifesto advocating leaving with, no deal.
Being elected in that election.
Not one.
UKIP slipping badly too.

Even the DUP weren't standing on a no deal brexit.
All Parties against same.

So this parliament is doing the will of the voters who elected it just 2+ years ago.

"No deal is better than a bad deal" was in the Tory manifesto. We tried a deal, but it turned out to be a bad deal, so what now?

Twosugars · 06-10-2019, 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alf

"No deal is better than a bad deal" was in the Tory manifesto. We tried a deal, but it turned out to be a bad deal, so what now?

Negotiate a new one, for soft brexit

joeysteele · 06-10-2019, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alf

"No deal is better than a bad deal" was in the Tory manifesto. We tried a deal, but it turned out to be a bad deal, so what now?

It was said.

However the Con party like all others stated clearly we would get a deal.

Since you raise that point however, it may well have been one of the reasons the Cons had their overall majority taken off them.
Thinking about it.

Leads of 15% to 20% in polling should never have resulted in no overall majority for the Cons.
In around 4 weeks of a campaign.
Even with the bigger margin of error of polls now.

The voters then perhaps doubting the Cons sincerity to ensure a deal was in place, so elected a Parliament that would ensure no deal was effectively removed from the scenario.

Twosugars · 06-10-2019, 02:05 PM

To leave with a deal

Alf · 06-10-2019, 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twosugars

To leave with a deal

That's not factual, is it?

Show me that exact question on the ballot paper, if you believe that's true.

Twosugars · 06-10-2019, 02:09 PM

That's what was promised.

If you want to go literal we can leave the eu but stay in the single market and customs union bc they are separate things

Twosugars · 06-10-2019, 02:10 PM

Nobody asked about leaving single market or customs union on the ballot so we are staying in those

Alf · 06-10-2019, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Nobody asked about leaving single market or customs union on the ballot so we are staying in those

As far as the people knew, they only signed up to be in the single market.

Why does the single market need a President, a flag, an anthem and have aspirations for an army?

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