[Kazanne]

Did anyone on here know about this ritual ? Its the first I had heard of it and wish I never had,how barbaric to kill all those animals , not even for meat from what I can see, just for the sake of some hindu goddess, 200,000 ,utter carnage and unnecessary,imo, some people just don't seem to have any empathy, I cant get my head round it.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...cid=spartanntp

[Saph]

I've never understood the whole 'sacrifice for the gods' stuff.. like aren't gods in religion supposed to have created life.. why kill it for them

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Saph

I've never understood the whole 'sacrifice for the gods' stuff.. like aren't gods in religion supposed to have created life.. why kill it for them

There is no reason or logic its nasty vile superstition, cruelty and control from poorly educated people.

[arista]

Nepal next to Tibet
a poor nation
will sadly not change................

[Grim Reaper]

Originally Posted by arista

Nepal next to Tibet
a poor nation
will sadly not change................

I spent 6 months trekking round Nepal 30 years ago and they are the loveliest,kindest and most hard working people I've ever come across. Unfortunately being also amongst the poorest nations of the world means they don't always see animal rights quite the way we do but I would say they don't treat animals badly out of cruelty more of necessity!

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Grim Reaper

I spent 6 months trekking round Nepal 30 years ago and they are the loveliest,kindest and most hard working people I've ever come across. Unfortunately being also amongst the poorest nations of the world means they don't always see animal rights quite the way we do but I would say they don't treat animals badly out of cruelty more of necessity!

Thankyou for a bit of perspective. We may not agree with ancient practices but to disrespect other civilisations in a colonial manner while turning a blind eye to modern injustices closer to home to me smacks of hypocrisy.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Thankyou for a bit of perspective. We may not agree with ancient practices but to disrespect other civilisations in a colonial manner while turning a blind eye to modern injustices closer to home to me smacks of hypocrisy.

no one is saying they are not nice people, they are uneducated people when it comes to understanding the world and are still wracked with superstition and fear believing in fake gods

"Around 200 butchers wielding curved kukri knives then descended on a walled temple arena containing an estimated 3,500 buffalo to behead the animals."


the reason they do this is superstition and there is no need


This thread is specifically about this event.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

no one is saying they are not nice people, they are uneducated people when it comes to understanding the world and are still wracked with superstition and fear believing in fake gods

"Around 200 butchers wielding curved kukri knives then descended on a walled temple arena containing an estimated 3,500 buffalo to behead the animals."


the reason they do this is superstition and there is no need


This thread is specifically about this event.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

no one is saying they are not nice people, they are uneducated people when it comes to understanding the world and are still wracked with superstition and fear believing in fake gods

"Around 200 butchers wielding curved kukri knives then descended on a walled temple arena containing an estimated 3,500 buffalo to behead the animals."


the reason they do this is superstition and there is no need


This thread is specifically about this event.

By whom do they need educating? As I said different civilisation different rules. It's not that long ago the western world was as barbarous.

If it makes you feel better imagine all the foxes ripped to pieces over a year or two in one arena or any other animal that is bred for 'sport' by the genteel, different perspective same outcome.

[thesheriff443]

They should sacrifice themselves uneducated savages

[Niamh.]

"See animal rights the way we do" is kind of funny considering the west mass slaughter alot more animals, the moral highground is kind of disingenuous, just because you eat the animals doesn't make it less cruel for them

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

"See animal rights the way we do" is kind of funny considering the west mass slaughter alot more animals, the moral highground is kind of disingenuous, just because you eat the animals doesn't make it less cruel for them

The method of killing is hardly similar and we don't kill based on a pathetic superstition. It's in no way comparable

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

The method of killing is hardly similar and we don't kill based on a pathetic superstition. It's in no way comparable

Do you think the fact that you eat the animals gives them some comfort?

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Do you think the fact that you eat the animals gives them some comfort?

As I said it's not in anyway comparable. We all die, so why keep old people in care homes, why not shoot them?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

As I said it's not in anyway comparable. We all die, so why keep old people in care homes, why not shoot them?

Or eat them?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

As I said it's not in anyway comparable. We all die, so why keep old people in care homes, why not shoot them?

Why are you comparing animals mass slaughtered for food to elderly people in care homes?

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

The method of killing is hardly similar and we don't kill based on a pathetic superstition. It's in no way comparable

People justifiying the mass murder of animals because they think they need meat to survive isn't a pathetic superstition?

[Mystic Mock]

Killing animals to eat isn't the same as killing an animal because 'God told me to' imo.

Obviously it's not nice for the animals, but one is for food at least which in my view I see as understandable.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Killing animals to eat isn't the same as killing an animal because 'God told me to' imo.

Obviously it's not nice for the animals, but one is for food at least which in my view I see as understandable.

There is no valid or good reason to the animal and taking the moral highground as to what constitutes as a good reason to kill them is hypocritical and makes no difference to the animals who are being killed. If you want to eat meat, eat meat, it tastes good but if you then act like a moral judge on other people who kill animals because you think their reason "isn't as good as yours" then you look foolish imo

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

There is no valid or good reason to the animal and taking the moral highground as to what constitutes as a good reason to kill them is hypocritical and makes no difference to the animals who are being killed. If you want to eat meat, eat meat, it tastes good but if you then act like a moral judge on other people who kill animals because you think their reason "isn't as good as yours" then you look foolish imo

...perfectly said....if an animal is slaughtered, it’s slaughtering becomes no lesser because of the reason..and animal meat is not an essential to human life...

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...perfectly said....if an animal is slaughtered, it’s slaughtering becomes no lesser because of the reason..and animal meat is not an essential to human life...

The human race started out as meat eaters, not cows eating grass in a field.

When you start talking about morals, vegetarians are not better humans based on the fact they don’t eat meat.

Killing an animal for a ritual falls into the same category as killing an animal for sport.

[Ammi]

...only to those who don’t hold the culture/ritual, though...a cultural ritual dating back centuries has a specific meaning to all of those who believe in it...whether we or others believe in it or not or what our feelings are about it...a sport is an entirely different thing, it holds no ritual significance in the same way...I don’t agree with the killing of these buffalo...but, like Niamh...I don’t understand the ‘rating of death/killing/slaughter’...when none are necessary and the result of each is identical to the animal...death...

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

There is no valid or good reason to the animal and taking the moral highground as to what constitutes as a good reason to kill them is hypocritical and makes no difference to the animals who are being killed. If you want to eat meat, eat meat, it tastes good but if you then act like a moral judge on other people who kill animals because you think their reason "isn't as good as yours" then you look foolish imo

No offence but killing them as a sacrifice is way more evil than eating them for Meat. I don't really get the debate on this one tbh.

But then I don't buy that Vigilante's are just as bad as a cold blooded murderer either (off topic I know) but I do think that the reason why you're doing something is massively important imo (especially if it's an act that could be deemed evil) and the reason why this thread was opened in the first place is the far more evil reason imo, there's absolutely no valid reason to kill the animal in this incident, where as at least people will gain benefits from eating an animal.

I understand why people disagree with eating Meat themselves, but to compare us to nutjobs is out of order imo.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

No offence but killing them as a sacrifice is way more evil than eating them for Meat. I don't really get the debate on this one tbh.

But then I don't buy that Vigilante's are just as bad as a cold blooded murderer either (off topic I know) but I do think that the reason why you're doing something is massively important imo (especially if it's an act that could be deemed evil) and the reason why this thread was opened in the first place is the far more evil reason imo, there's absolutely no valid reason to kill the animal in this incident, where as at least people will gain benefits from eating an animal.

I understand why people disagree with eating Meat themselves, but to compare us to nutjobs is out of order imo.

...but it’s people individually who are defining what ‘evil’ is though and what defines ‘valid’...a slaughtered animal is a slaughtered animal and their death is no less, regardless of what the reason...a cultural Hindu festival/ritual that dates back centuries, would be seen as a valid reason by some, but not by others...

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...but it’s people individually who are defining what ‘evil’ is though and what defines ‘valid’...a slaughtered animal is a slaughtered animal and their death is no less, regardless of what the reason...a cultural Hindu festival/ritual that dates back centuries, would be seen as a valid reason by some, but not by others...

Of course people see things differently, but are you honestly gonna say that every reason for killing an animal is just as evil as each other? Because to me that's just not real life as normally even with criminals (again off topic I know) there is a hierarchy on who is more evil than who between murderers, rapists etc.

To me I see Meat eaters as more innocent than Religious nutjobs who kill animals, however I get that (like you pointed out Ammi) that not everyone will see it the same as I do, I've just got to be honest and say that I do find that opinion a bit strange though.

I understand people being against eating Meat (as I hope that a lot of people could) I just personally from my own perspective don't see it as quite as evil as other reasons to kill animals.