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[Travellers heading to and from
France face five days of chaos
due to a general strike across the country.
French public sector workers
began the walkouts on
Thursday over French President
Emmanuel Macron's plans to
reform the nation's pension system.
Flights, trains and buses are being
hit by the biggest wave of industrial
action the country has faced for decades.]
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When are they not on strike

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lmao we're always on strike, so it's not like it's anything unusual to us.
Yellow vests, lawyers, students etc etc etc You name it, it's on strike.

Today almost no train or public transport worked in the whole country. I had to work from home and let it watch burn. I'm not even watching the news because this is ridiculous.
And I could not care less about the reform, it's not a bad one actually. Let them eat cake!
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lmao we're always on strike, so it's not like it's anything unusual to us.
Yellow vests, lawyers, students etc etc etc You name it, it's on strike.

Today almost no train or public transport worked in the whole country. I had to work from home and let it watch burn. I'm not even watching the news because this is ridiculous.
And I could not care less about the reform, it's not a bad one actually. Let them eat cake!

Same thing in 1995 in France.

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Good for them France is not a nation of appeasers! They fight for their rights, I wish to God we were more like them.
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Good for them France is not a nation of appeasers! They fight for their rights, I wish to God we were more like them.

No Kizzy its not out way
France has more Angry Farmers
and more are now poor.
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Yes arista...we have more poor everyone... The PM today said he would block strikes on public transport. So that's workers rights tampered with post brexit.
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France gets a Photo on two newspapers/

Meanwhile
Macron demands Pension Reform and Cuts.

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any company that knows as the public rely on it to get to work etc and strike based on that reason should be targetted

They strike for that cynical reason

its disgusting
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any company that knows as the public rely on it to get to work etc and strike based on that reason should be targetted

They strike for that cynical reason

its disgusting
Nobody goes on strike for fun.. It's for safety, pay or conditions. That is perfectly legitimate no matter what sector you're in.
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Nobody goes on strike for fun.. It's for safety, pay or conditions. That is perfectly legitimate no matter what sector you're in.
rather funny that its a certain type of job that keeps going on strike?
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rather funny that its a certain type of job that keeps going on strike?
Not funny at all, if safety is compromised then it should be expected.. they have PUBLIC safety to think about.
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Not funny at all, if safety is compromised then it should be expected.. they have PUBLIC safety to think about.
yes i believe they have stooped to trying that old trick thankfully that has been addressed by the rail company.
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[This weekend, amid the
long-running Yellow Vest demonstrations,
France faced another, separate protest:
a national strike over
President Emmanuel Macron’s plans
to overhaul the pension system]


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It's not that bad, we just don't have national trains at the moment lmao Nothing unusual again to us
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Is that the fire service protesting? ... things must be really bad
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He did not ignore the yellow vests wtf
He gave away a lot to ease the situation. If it were up to me I would not have given them a penny!
But whatever, France right now is showing that you can solve everything with violence. So let those lazy asses destroy the country, elect that extreme right party leader Marine Le Pen so she can turn herself into a monster even more.

London take me back! (oh wait, y'all are in trouble too lol)
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He did not ignore the yellow vests wtf
He gave away a lot to ease the situation. If it were up to me I would not have given them a penny!
But whatever, France right now is showing that you can solve everything with violence. So let those lazy asses destroy the country, elect that extreme right party leader Marine Le Pen so she can turn herself into a monster even more.

London take me back! (oh wait, y'all are in trouble too lol)

Yes he had talks
but the Yellow Vests are staying put
Nothing has changed.


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on this Election/Brexit Battle
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At least they don't block roundabouts anymore, and they are less and less to show up every saturday. Since they agree with the violence that happened, they should be treated as such.
And they always want more and they don't care about the financial repercussions. They are spoilt and greedy, end of the story.
Now that doesn't mean some of their motives are not right, but everybody is facing struggles in their daily lifes. We should take care of the people in difficult situations, but not people who want to sit around and do nothing and be paid for it.

They're a bunch of cowards who waited until a younger president was elected not even two years ago so they can take all of their anger towards him. They would have never had the guts to do it with Sarkozy or Hollande. And that's a weak move for that. Macron is not responsible for the previous presidents' mistakes.

Anyway, Macron is showing those rats that he's much stronger than that. He won't back down and that's a good thing.

About the pensions reform, basically it's saying that your pension won't be based on your best 25 years of your career anymore, but on your whole career instead.
So now people are rioting because pretty much they realize they can't sit around all day and work from time to time to get a decent pension. Get out of here! They are lazy and dumb (they can't even make right calculation based on the formula provided by the government, what a bunch of idiots)
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At least they don't block roundabouts anymore, and they are less and less to show up every saturday. Since they agree with the violence that happened, they should be treated as such.
And they always want more and they don't care about the financial repercussions. They are spoilt and greedy, end of the story.
Now that doesn't mean some of their motives are not right, but everybody is facing struggles in their daily lifes. We should take care of the people in difficult situations, but not people who want to sit around and do nothing and be paid for it.

They're a bunch of cowards who waited until a younger president was elected not even two years ago so they can take all of their anger towards him. They would have never had the guts to do it with Sarkozy or Hollande. And that's a weak move for that. Macron is not responsible for the previous presidents' mistakes.

Anyway, Macron is showing those rats that he's much stronger than that. He won't back down and that's a good thing.

About the pensions reform, basically it's saying that your pension won't be based on your best 25 years of your career anymore, but on your whole career instead.
So now people are rioting because pretty much they realize they can't sit around all day and work from time to time to get a decent pension. Get out of here! They are lazy and dumb (they can't even make right calculation based on the formula provided by the government, what a bunch of idiots)
Nice to get an actual French residents view rather than, 'I wish we were more like the French' and were more militant, in reality we wouldn't really want our city centres turned into battlegrounds every weekend
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Nice to get an actual French residents view rather than, 'I wish we were more like the French' and were more militant, in reality we wouldn't really want our city centres turned into battlegrounds every weekend
Thank you. I think it's in the French people's DNA to go on strike hardly (oh hey the French Revolution!), but some people take it way too far!
I feel very bad for all the shops that must close around Christmas and see their revenue crushed because of it. This is the second year in a row, and many shops have closed or hardly survive. Christmas is usually a strong period for them, but now they are struggling because people don't go into city centres anymore.
All profit goes to Amazon obviously, since people can't go do their Christmas shopping in shops. And ironically enough, the yellow vests and rioters want to evict Amazon so local shops can generate more jobs. I can't.
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Thank you. I think it's in the French people's DNA to go on strike hardly (oh hey the French Revolution!), but some people take it way too far!
I feel very bad for all the shops that must close around Christmas and see their revenue crushed because of it. This is the second year in a row, and many shops have closed or hardly survive. Christmas is usually a strong period for them, but now they are struggling because people don't go into city centres anymore.
All profit goes to Amazon obviously, since people can't go do their Christmas shopping in shops. And ironically enough, the yellow vests and rioters want to evict Amazon so local shops can generate more jobs. I can't.
The people striking are professionals and unions, so hardly bums... I of course understand that it is inconvenient and damaging however to me there is something passionate and honourable about fighting for your rights. That's what I find admirable.
We hear tales of great valour and spirit ' Dunkirk spirit' ...That is how I see this, a fight against those who would disempower the citizen.
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