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17-06-2020, 03:18 PM | #1 | |||
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Mass immigration, people 'sailing' the English Channel on Lilos using Spades as Oars in a desperate attempt to get here. Hiding in refrigerated trucks, cramped into small dangerous spaces. Parents giving every last penny so their child can be smuggled in. This is not to mention the mass legal immigration.
Im not patriotic, im an anti-royalist, i do not vote (never have) as i've never felt strongly enough either way. However, a lot of people go around saying how awful Britain is, how poorly run the country is, and of course it's far from perfect, we have many many flaws, but is it really that bad? Something is drawing in millions, from all walks of life. |
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17-06-2020, 03:20 PM | #3 | |||
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17-06-2020, 03:20 PM | #4 | |||
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17-06-2020, 03:22 PM | #5 | |||
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I'm not sure of this but I heard basically we give them a house, benefits and free health care.
Not sure you get that over in say Poland.
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17-06-2020, 03:39 PM | #6 | |||
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17-06-2020, 03:41 PM | #7 | |||
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Oh no, I'm English
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17-06-2020, 03:27 PM | #8 | ||
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17-06-2020, 03:29 PM | #9 | |||
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Yes i do realise that, which is why i posed the question, why when already in France do thousands risk life and limb to cross the Channel?
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17-06-2020, 03:50 PM | #11 | ||
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Because it's Europe/Australia/North America and it's safer than their country.
In their eyes, it's better than where they come from. And really if they had the choice they would rather stay, and not risk their lives. But the economic and political aspects really don't give them a choice. |
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17-06-2020, 03:51 PM | #12 | |||
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17-06-2020, 04:07 PM | #13 | ||
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It really doesn't take a genius to figure it out. You really can't say that regardless of what happens in Europe, North America or AU/NZ, it's less safe than third world countries or countries that are badly struggling.
People know this from talking with the immigrants themselves, personal stories (like my parents who left their respective countries to come to France), History as a whole, geopolitics etc And let's not forget that most migration movements are mainly within countries of the same region. |
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17-06-2020, 03:59 PM | #14 | |||
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17-06-2020, 04:04 PM | #15 | |||
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Oh no, I'm English
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If the holocaust was happening today, I'd love to see what our anti-asylum seeker brigade would be saying.
Germany's a modern country, why are they coming here? People are fleeing genocides, apartheid, war zones (often started by our empire and it's passion for redrawing maps) etc.
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17-06-2020, 03:33 PM | #16 | |||
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17-06-2020, 03:49 PM | #17 | |||
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no
i can already think of 2 others whom got worse warzones than those Somalia, Sudan and not to forget another african country of corruption Chad Iraq i agree, but then also Afghanistan, Syria Albania is not a warzone
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17-06-2020, 03:38 PM | #18 | |||
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17-06-2020, 04:18 PM | #19 | |||
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17-06-2020, 03:20 PM | #21 | |||
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It's mainly kids with no job, no property, no stake in society and still get their main meal made by Thier mum
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17-06-2020, 03:36 PM | #22 | |||
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"If this country is so terrible why do so many risk their lives to get here?"
They get cash , a home, so much more than nasty France would give any of them. We are working to get them sent back to France every day it just a matter of paying France more Cash |
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17-06-2020, 03:47 PM | #23 | |||
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We're not 'too loving' but that doesn't change the fact we will house single mothers, those unable to work, offer a decent chance at an education and a chance to make a good life for yourself. Hence why i say, this country isn't at all as bad as some people like to make out.
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17-06-2020, 04:03 PM | #24 | |||
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People are escaping repressive regimes, war or just looking for a better standard of living. The English language might favour coming here.
I actually think this country is a pretty good place to grow up. Last edited by James; 17-06-2020 at 04:10 PM. |
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17-06-2020, 04:05 PM | #25 | |||
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Agreed, this country really isn't that bad, it's actually rather good on the whole.
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