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Thumbs down Fury as Black Comedian Sophie Duker jokes about killing white people on BBC2 show



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/ne...yles-show.html

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...BBC2-show.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sophie_Duker
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''Responding to the clip, Duker - who has appeared on Eight Out Of Ten Cats- asserted that 'white power' and 'black power' are 'capitalist myths' that need to be dispelled, before calling 'whiteness' a 'capitalist structure'.

She then claimed that 'white power is Trump Tower' - a nod to Left-wing allegations that the US President is a racist - and jokes about 'killing whitey'.

'White power is Trump Tower', Duker said, 'but when we say we want to kill whitey, we don't really mean we want to kill whitey'.

She then quips to the panelists 'we do' - to roars of laughter in the studio.''


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It's a comedy show, snowflakes.
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It's a comedy show, snowflakes.

Yes an Adult Comedy Show.
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It's a comedy show, snowflakes.
nothing funny about making jokes of ''killing white people''


not that i defend white people, given their hardcore right wing also are unacceptable with their toxic behaviour what i notice in BLM related videos on youtube, how they are too rude, nasty, vile at opposition


how to solve this problem, no more extremism from either side, but in all honesty i am thinking of ignoring this problem myself since it makes me a bit depressed
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nothing funny about making jokes of ''killing white people''





not that i defend white people, given their hardcore right wing also are unacceptable with their toxic behaviour what i notice in BLM related videos on youtube, how they are too rude, nasty, vile at opposition





how to solve this problem, no more extremism from either side, but in all honesty i am thinking of ignoring this problem myself since it makes me a bit depressed
If you watched it or a clip, it's abundantly clear that the "we do" is tongue in cheek.

Actually, to add to that, can I point out that she's making a joke to Frankie Boyle who is laughing along with her. I don't know if you've noticed, but Frankie is actually a big ruddy faced white bloke .

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If she was being serious, she needs serious psychological help.

But a she's a comedian on a comedy show ... I think that's as good a time as any to tell jokes?
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If she was being serious, she needs serious psychological help.

But a she's a comedian on a comedy show ... I think that's as good a time as any to tell jokes?
alright, maybe this is not my sort of humour then
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Wow we aren’t even allowed to make jokes anymore! Pc culture has gone crazy
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Wow we aren’t even allowed to make jokes anymore! Pc culture has gone crazy
hope this is towards Dailyfail, not me since i am far from PC myself


but jokes about killing people is not what i myself like (i am overall not a huge fan of stand up comedy, jokes either find them far too hardcore for my liking)
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It's all comedy... until someone jokes about killing black people. Then Duker would have a sudden sense of humour failure.
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It's all comedy... until someone jokes about killing black people. Then Duker would have a sudden sense of humour failure.
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it doesn't matter what race/colour but jokes about killing people overall is just dark humour at its darkest

and i do have a good sense of humour anyway
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Aint that the truth .
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The best comedy is always about punching up at a target, not punching down.
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It's all comedy... until someone jokes about killing black people. Then Duker would have a sudden sense of humour failure.
Eh, I'd need to see a comedian make such a joke and measure the outrage to be sure of a double standard.

That said, the bloke who Obama hired to do his presidential portrait had previously painted black people brandishing the severed heads of white people - can you imagine if Trump hires a portrait artist with similarly violent racist works? But then, Obama's choice did get backlash, so maybe there isn't a double standard after all.
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Comedy is comedy, if you're tuning into a Frankie Boyle show, of all things, then you can't be offended by edgy humour because that's his entire shtick.
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Comedy is comedy, if you're tuning into a Frankie Boyle show, of all things, then you can't be offended by edgy humour because that's his entire shtick.
Yes he is good at that
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You’d think the free speech, protect comedy brigade wouldn’t be upset by a joke, but then, they are the biggest snowflakes around
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‘Everyone’s thing is the worst thing in the world,’ he tells me. ‘We all do it. We
go to a show and say “I wish he hadn’t joked about that. That’s the thing I care
about”.’ He recalls playing in New York for the first time and receiving a letter
from a Jewish society upset about his Anne Frank material. ‘I said to them, “You
laughed at the jokes about famine, Aids and cancer. You knew I was joking
there, didn’t you?” I’m playing the idiot. That’s what irony is. It’s the opposite
of what you actually think. You wouldn’t satirise an idea that you fundamentally
agreed with and get excited about it as an artist.’



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‘Everyone’s thing is the worst thing in the world,’ he tells me. ‘We all do it. We
go to a show and say “I wish he hadn’t joked about that. That’s the thing I care
about”.’ He recalls playing in New York for the first time and receiving a letter
from a Jewish society upset about his Anne Frank material. ‘I said to them, “You
laughed at the jokes about famine, Aids and cancer. You knew I was joking
there, didn’t you?” I’m playing the idiot. That’s what irony is. It’s the opposite
of what you actually think. You wouldn’t satirise an idea that you fundamentally
agreed with and get excited about it as an artist.’



He does have a point!
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Gervais is also a believer in the Punch up vs punch down theory. When you make the same remarks about the same minorities day after day, then it stops becoming playful satire (if it ever was), and offers a view of an individuals actual opinions, masked under the guise of being subversive.
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