[Beso]

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[Kate!]

Yes I think so.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Kate!

Yes I think so.

I've added a poll.

[GoldHeart]

Come back to me when we're half way through the year , hopefully things will get better.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Come back to me when we're half way through the year , hopefully things will get better.

The poll is only open for 5 days

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by parmnion

The poll is only open for 5 days

[arista]

Yes So far
even Labour agree.

[Vanessa]

Brilliant.

[Scarlett.]

The NHS is doing a great job.

[Cherie]

It’s the one good thing they have done so far

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Scarlett.

The NHS is doing a great job.

They have the vaccine to administer because of the government actually forward thinking for a change so one wouldn’t work without the other

[Smithy]

We’ll wait and see, it’s all well and good giving however many people their first dose, but if they **** up and miss giving people the second dose it’s all for nothing

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Smithy

We’ll wait and see, it’s all well and good giving however many people their first dose, but if they **** up and miss giving people the second dose it’s all for nothing

People are already booked in for second doses, so unless there is a massive supply failure or people don't turn up I can't see how it can go wrong?

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

People are already booked in for second doses, so unless there is a massive supply failure or people don't turn up I can't see how it can go wrong?

Hmmmm well, I suppose I haven’t heard the words “massive failure” and “this government” in a sentence together during this pandemic, so yeah you’re right I’m sure it’ll be fine

[Shaun]

With vaccination? Yes. That's one consolation I suppose.

[bots]

i've been pleasantly surprised at how well it has gone. Credit where it's due to all those involved.

[joeysteele]

Yes they are.
Which I'm happy is the case so too.
This, they've got right.

[DouglasS]

The U.K. government are world leading with their vaccine rollout. Astonishing work, Boris and his government should be rewarded for acting so diligently and being incredibly well prepared.

Other countries around the world are in awe at how well we have done and some are actually bitter about it.

[Tom4784]

They do seem to be picking up speed with vaccinations at least, but the government aside from the furlough scheme has **** the bed for the most part when dealing with this pandemic.

Given we've had access to the vaccine since December, it's grim it's taken this long to really get a lot of people vaccinated. They should have been ready to kick vaccinations into high gear from when we first got them.

[DouglasS]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

They do seem to be picking up speed with vaccinations at least, but the government aside from the furlough scheme has **** the bed for the most part when dealing with this pandemic.

Given we've had access to the vaccine since December, it's grim it's taken this long to really get a lot of people vaccinated. They should have been ready to kick vaccinations into high gear from when we first got them.

You do realise we are the second fastest country in the world per population? There are 195 countries. I really don’t think we could have been any faster or done any better...

We pre ordered the first and third approved vaccines (out of about 30 at stage 3) straight away and have logistically managed to vaccine as many people as possible per the supply demands.

I feel it’s a bit pedantic to try and say we should have been faster or vaccinate more people.. I mean can you look at this chart and say that with a straight face... really.. no really? Don’t let any biases show

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by DouglasS

You do realise we are the second fastest country in the world per population? There are 195 countries. I really don’t think we could have been any faster or done any better...

We pre ordered the first and third approved vaccines (out of about 30 at stage 3) straight away and have logistically managed to vaccine as many people as possible per the supply demands.

I feel it’s a bit pedantic to try and say we should have been faster or vaccinate more people.. I mean can you look at this chart and say that with a straight face... really.. no really? Don’t let any biases show

The irony.

Tables don't matter to me, just because we're second doesn't mean there isn't room for improvement. we aren't perfect and excusing the need for improvement because we're doing better than most countries is pointless. We can always do better, and we should strive to do just that.

The only times we should be comparing ourselves to other countries is if they are doing something we could do to improve our situation, using other countries performances as an excuse to not do better is a terrible attitude.

[DouglasS]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

The irony.

Tables don't matter to me, just because we're second doesn't mean there isn't room for improvement. we aren't perfect and excusing the need for improvement because we're doing better than most countries is pointless. We can always do better, and we should strive to do just that.

The only times we should be comparing ourselves to other countries is if they are doing something we could do to improve our situation, using other countries performances as an excuse to not do better is a terrible attitude.

The point is we are dominating... miles and miles ahead.. in terms of speed of the vaccine rollout and also in our supply.

It’s like critasizing countries like New Zealand And Australia saying they did a rubbish job because they weren’t covid free sooner..

it’s just quite silly to not be able to congratulate countries when they have done objectively well. I use data and charts because it uses data and it is comparable, it is better to use that rather than random bias opinions. This data isn’t bias, it is a breakdown of each country. The U.K. dominating in the vaccine efforts..

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by DouglasS

The point is we are dominating... miles and miles ahead.. in terms of speed of the vaccine rollout and also in our supply.

It’s like critasizing countries like New Zealand And Australia saying they did a rubbish job because they weren’t covid free sooner..

it’s just quite silly to not be able to congratulate countries when they have done objectively well. I use data and charts because it uses data and it is comparable, it is better to use that rather than random bias opinions. This data isn’t bias, it is a breakdown of each country. The U.K. dominating in the vaccine efforts..

No, that's not the point, you've completely missed the point, actually.

It doesn't matter if we're 'dominating', if we can do better, we should do better. People are dying everyday, we shouldn't pat ourselves on the back until we bring that number down to 0.

It's nothing like Australia or New Zealand because they took pre-emptive measures that allowed them to damn near eradicate Covid in their countries and deal with it quickly when it came back. Boris and the government sleepwalked into this crisis despite knowing how bad it would be which is why our death and infection rates are awful. Your comparison lacks all context or relation to what I'm saying.

You see it as a competition, as long as we're doing the 'best' that's enough and it's not. This isn't a competition, it's a crisis and we shouldn't use leaderboards as an excuse to allow complacency. Leaderboard don't mean **** when we're still struggling to contain the virus.

Also, you really need to stop using 'bias' like it's some buzzword that instantly wins an argument for you, especially when you're too busy cheerleading a government with mostly failures under it's belt for this crisis. To accuse anyone of bias when you're waving a union jack at the UK being high up on a ****ing leaderboard while trying to shoot down suggestions that we could do better in the middle of a pandemic that is kicking our arses is just too much.

It's not bias on my end, it's being realistic. Your misplaced loyalty to a political party makes it impossible for you to criticise them or accept they can do no wrong even when it's proven they have (Re: Priti Patel). Honestly, you're just projecting.

[Cherie]

A brand new vaccination programme cannot be kicked off with speed, it’s has to be rolled out slowly in the first weeks to catch any issues with mass roll out, imagine mass vaccinating in week one and many having allergic reactions or worse

[rusticgal]

I think they are doing a magnificent job....its so easy to sit back and critisise. No other Politician would have wanted to be in Boris's shoes leading his country through a pandemic...so all they do it fault him at any opportunity. Of course mistakes have been made..and sadly many lives lost...but we through money at creating a vaccine and when we got one we stuck our order in and now we are rolling it out with efficiency....