[parmnion]

Ic male 1, and stuff like that...

Should they change the wording now that's its 2021.?

[DouglasS]

Imagine hearing “We’ve got a non binary on the run”

[GoldHeart]

No because male & female are descriptions that will always be around , and we all do it to describe someone.

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

No because male & female are descriptions that will always be around , and we all do it to describe someone.

What if that person is offended by it?

Should the police not be held accountable like the rest of us?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

What if that person is offended by it?

Should the police not be held accountable like the rest of us?

What does this mean? Are people currently arrested for misgendering?

(And don't respond with examples of harassment or bullying as that's not the same).

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

What does this mean? Are people currently arrested for misgendering?

(And don't respond with examples of harassment or bullying as that's not the same).

They often lose their jobs over it.

Should police officers be treated the same.?

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by parmnion

What if that person is offended by it?

Should the police not be held accountable like the rest of us?

Don't be silly
You can't eliminate MALE & FEMALE pronouns, the person can be offended all they want. But if they're a suspect the police isn't going to know what their gender terms are right off the bat. It's about catching criminals etc.

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Don't be silly
You can't eliminate MALE & FEMALE pronouns, the person can be offended all they want. But if they're a suspect the police isn't going to know what their gender terms are right off the bat. It's about catching criminals etc.

What if they are just doing a random stop and search though..for nothing!!

When theybradio in to report they have stopped a male...for nothing!!!

It's not all high octane, speed chases where they shout IC 1 MALE ON THE RUN, into their radios.

When they stop you, for nothing...they are instantly harassing you, so to then assume your label preference is further harassment..

So should they then be held accountable?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by DouglasS

Imagine hearing “We’ve got a non binary on the run”

I'm laughing now, but half-expecting to hear it in the next Line of Duty.

[LeatherTrumpet]

No all there is are male and female

Anything else is a fad

[parmnion]

I may add that the police have already been instructed to not genderise people in a memo sent to all forces.

[parmnion]

Its not about describing someone to an officer...its about the officer assuming you, to someone else over his radio.

[parmnion]

This is a thing now.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by parmnion

This is a thing now.

If you ever get asked to identify or describe a potential criminal or suspect in an incident, what are you going to say then ? .

" Well officer I can't describe their gender as I don't want to offend them" ? .

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

If you ever get asked to identify or describe a potential criminal or suspect in an incident, what are you going to say then ? .

" Well officer I can't describe their gender as I don't want to offend them" ? .

Depends on the crime, if it's one against a large company, I will keep shtoom, quoting the fact I dknt want to offend that person.

If its rape or something slightly less serious than that I will just say male, i will say, "he was a black male officer, of youthful appearance"

[Oliver_W]

If they just say male or female instead of man or woman, that'd sort it. Male and female aren't "genders", so it doesn't matter if the person identifies as something else.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

If they just say male or female instead of man or woman, that'd sort it. Male and female aren't "genders", so it doesn't matter if the person identifies as something else.

Actually no because it is a visual description so they ARE actually noting the gender of the suspect, NOT the sex.

So it should technically be the other way around. They could say "man" or "woman" based on presentation, they actually do NOT know if the suspect is male or female. Unless they're naked. But then I suspect "they're running down the street naked" probably serves as a good enough description.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

they actually do NOT know if the suspect is male or female.

Not tro be overly personal or rude, but in most cases ....