[Denver]

Ive been watching a lot of tiktoks of Black Americans and I don't understand the obsession with the Americans calling every black person African American? A huge percentage of the American race have not had an African relative in hundreds of years and a lot of them have no idea who there relatives are and don't follow African Traditions, Cultures, speak the language etc but think they own Africa.

And let's not start on the fact that Americans try to cancel White Africans because God forbid anyone who is black being born in Africa is not allowed to be African yet they are more African then most of the Black race if America most of who never traveled to the any African countries or could even name 5 of them.

Anyway the whole point of this post is to just discuss how toxic and problematic the American Culture is where everyone thinks they own the world when they don't even own a pot to piss in

[Denver]

So basically people really need to stop associating nationality with skin colour as they are 2 serperate things

[Crimson Dynamo]

Maybe just concentrate on the UK and let other countries work stuff out for themselves?

[Livia]

I'm pretty sure that "toxic and problematic" term was coined by Jesse Jackson.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Denver

where everyone thinks they own the world when they don't even own a pot to piss in

Aren't you being as presumptuous and generalising about an entire nation of people based on a minority, the same way you're criticising the Americans who get terminology wrong?

[Redway]

And aside from that no one calls white Americans (who aren’t indigenous to America either) European Americans. I agree.

[Livia]

"A group of black leaders, including the Rev. Jesse Jackson, says members of their race would prefer to be called African-Americans rather than blacks.

″Just as we were called colored, but were not that, and then Negro, but not that, to be called black is just as baseless,″ Jackson said at a news conference Monday after a meeting of the black leaders.

″To be called African-Americans has cultural integrity,″ he said. ″It puts us in our proper historical context. Every ethnic group in this country has a reference to some land base, some historical cultural base. African- Americans have hit that level of cultural maturity.″

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Livia

"A group of black leaders, including the Rev. Jesse Jackson, says members of their race would prefer to be called African-Americans rather than blacks.

″Just as we were called colored, but were not that, and then Negro, but not that, to be called black is just as baseless,″ Jackson said at a news conference Monday after a meeting of the black leaders.

″To be called African-Americans has cultural integrity,″ he said. ″It puts us in our proper historical context. Every ethnic group in this country has a reference to some land base, some historical cultural base. African- Americans have hit that level of cultural maturity.″

It's bull **** though as black is a race African is a nationality and if you are born outside of an African country then you are not African, you have African descendants but are not African

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Denver

It's bull **** though as black is a race African is a nationality and if you are born outside of an African country then you are not African, you have African descendants but are not African

How about Italian Americans? Or Irish Americans?

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Livia

How about Italian Americans? Or Irish Americans?

Not even a thing, just because your grandfather 8x removed was born in Ireland it doesn't make you Irish and you are only seen as part of another nationality if its your birth grand parents or parents born there

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Denver

Not even a thing, just because your grandfather 8x removed was born in Ireland it doesn't make you Irish and you are only seen as part of another nationality if its your birth grand parents or parents born there

What do you mean, not even a thing? Are you American? People take their heritage quite seriously there. Did you even read what Jesse Jackson said?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Denver

Not even a thing, just because your grandfather 8x removed was born in Ireland it doesn't make you Irish and you are only seen as part of another nationality if its your birth grand parents or parents born there

Seriously Denver you should do a bit of research before you come out with this crap

Why do you think Biden has an interest in Northern Ireland? The Irish American vote is huge, most of these people have never set foot in Ireland but they are very proud of their roots

[Crimson Dynamo]

Oop

[arista]

Tik Tok

Is causing trouble or is just reflecting USA Youth changing.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by arista

Tik Tok

Is causing trouble or is just reflecting USA Youth changing.

Like I said, if there's a movement for African Americans to call themselves something else, that's very much up to them.

[Marsh.]

Wait, I thought your issue was with people assuming that all black people in America are "African American" but your issue is with African Americans calling themselves African American?

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Wait, I thought your issue was with people assuming that all black people in America are "African American" but your issue is with African Americans calling themselves African American?

That’s exactly what I thought. If it’s the latter then I have to agree with Livia.

[bots]

all the people in 2 continents don't agree, what a shocker

[Oliver_W]

Tbh I thought the term "African American" came because people were uncomfortable with the word black?

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Tbh I thought the term "African American" came because people were uncomfortable with the word black?

Yeah but like the dated awful word "coloured" people eventually realised it's actually ok to actually say BLACK , it's strange that African American is still used . Obviously it's no where near as cringe as saying "coloured" though.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Yeah but like the dated awful word "coloured" people eventually realised it's actually ok to actually say BLACK , it's strange that African American is still used . Obviously it's no where near as cringe as saying "coloured" though.

Because black people chose it.

Read the thread.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Livia

Because black people chose it.

Read the thread.

I'm fully aware, I'm saying how it's STILL used.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

I'm fully aware, I'm saying how it's STILL used.

Because to change it is not OUR call. I've said before... maybe you saw... if ever African Americans choose to call themselves something else, that's fine with me. Until then, African American it is.

[Livia]

I thought I was alone here, that I was maybe missing some point. But... no.

[bots]

the same is true for Scottish Americans who come over here to soak up their ancestors history, find out what clan they are attached to etc.

Heritage, no matter how far back it goes, is a very big deal