[bots]

A ringleader of a grooming gang has avoided being deported so it would therefore be wrong to deport two other gang members, a tribunal has heard.

Abdul Aziz, 51, Adil Khan, 51, and Qari Rauf, 52, were among nine gang members jailed in 2012 for a catalogue of child sex offences in Rochdale.

Aziz, known as "the Master" by the gang, has previously been told he will not be deported by the Home Office.

Khan and Rauf claim deportation would interfere with their human rights.

The tribunal had heard how all three were liable to be deprived of UK citizenship and deported as they also held Pakistani nationality, and then-home secretary Theresa May ruled it would be "conducive to the public good".

Since being release from jail, the men have fought a long legal battle against deportation, mounting multiple legal challenges and appeals, spanning several years.

It emerged at the immigration tribunal hearing in London, Aziz had already been told he will not be stripped of his UK citizenship and deported.

Aziz had renounced his Pakistani citizenship on 13 July, 2018, six years after he was jailed, but just days before the Court of Appeal ruled he could be deprived of his UK citizenship.

Rauf and Khan only renounced their Pakistani citizenship in September of the same year after the Court of Appeal ruling.

Lawyers for Rauf said the law demands consistency of treatment and although Rauf could regain his Pakistani nationality simply by signing a form, he refuses to do so because he does not want to be deported.

Khan told the hearing: "I have a question for the Home Secretary, whether Mr Aziz was an angel and I am a devil?"

Aziz was jailed for nine years in 2012, for conspiracy to engage in sexual activity with a child by penetrative sex and trafficking for sexual exploitation a 15-year-old girl.

He took his victim to flats in Rochdale where she was plied with vodka and drugs and coerced into sex with gangs of men in return for payment to him.

Rauf, a father-of-five, trafficked a 15-year-old girl for sex, driving her to secluded areas to have sex with her in his taxi and ferry her to a flat in Rochdale where he and others had sex with her.

Khan got a 13-year-old girl pregnant, but denied he was the father, then met another girl, 15, and trafficked her to others using violence when she complained.

The hearing was adjourned with a decision on deportation expected later this year.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...ester-61957132

[Oliver_W]

Why would even a legal aid lawyer take on those sub-humans' cases?

[hijaxers]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Why would even a legal aid lawyer take on those sub-humans' cases?

Why are they even getting legal aid ?

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by hijaxers

Why are they even getting legal aid ?

Because of human rights.

It's an entitlement.

As for deportation, I don't agree with it. Are we now going to deport everyone who has committed a crime? Rapists, murderers too? They held British citizenship...they have completed their time in prison (which btw, the sentences were disgusting but that's the CPS for you).

It needs to be fair across the board. They committed the crime in this country of which they have British citizenship... In the eyes of the law, their time is spent.

I have a completely different view whereby there might be a national security threat, ie terrorism, then deportation is maybe a necessity.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by ThomasC

Because of human rights.

It's an entitlement.

As for deportation, I don't agree with it. Are we now going to deport everyone who has committed a crime? Rapists, murderers too? They held British citizenship...they have completed their time in prison (which btw, the sentences were disgusting but that's the CPS for you).

It needs to be fair across the board. They committed the crime in this country of which they have British citizenship... In the eyes of the law, their time is spent.

I have a completely different view whereby there might be a national security threat, ie terrorism, then deportation is maybe a necessity.

I tend to agree with this, and I think it would be unfair to punish their families for their wrong doings by deporting them

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I tend to agree with this, and I think it would be unfair to punish their families for their wrong doings by deporting them

So we punish everyone else by letting them stay ?

They are not gonna turn into angels overnight ...

It would be a good deterrent imho


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[user104658]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Why would even a legal aid lawyer take on those sub-humans' cases?

Legal right to a defense; if it's not provided then they can simply wait until they're convicted, point out that proper legal process wasn't followed, and then they're back on the street on a technicality.

[Beso]

It all boils down to hatred.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Woke culture scared to say Pakistani Muslims who raped white girls

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Woke culture scared to say Pakistani Muslims who raped white girls

I don’t understand why their leaders are not dealing with this problem internally !?

Also what are the parents of the girls doing to educate their daughters and prevent these crimes occurring in the first place ?


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[arista]

Police have today Apologised

And so has the Labour Council.

A Shocking account:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...injection.html

[Beso]

Why dont they just deport the cock and balls of them all.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Why dont they just deport the cock and balls of them all.

Only a minority were even charged and of them only a few were successfully convicted from what I can see.. then they get out after serving half a sentence ..


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[arista]

New Labour Cover UP


Stinks

[arista]

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by arista

There must be some serious racial tension in that town …


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[arista]

Newsnight BBC2HD

Had a Report from Laura
Who refused to have sex with the Pakistani men.

At the time she was a much younger

They got a spoon
put it on a hot cooker
then burnt a bit of her skin off.

They made sure she drank a lot.

She called the Police,
they arrested her...

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by arista

Newsnight BBC2HD

Had a Report from Laura
Who refused to have sex with the Pakistani men.

At the time she was a much younger

They got a spoon
put it on a hot cooker
then burnt a bit of her skin off.

They made sure she drank a lot.

She called the Police,
they arrested her...

Where were her parents when all this was going on ?


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[arista]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Where were her parents when all this was going on ?

Yes bad parents
not helping.

[Ninastar]

If you go to a country that you’re not from and you break some pretty serious laws, you should automatically be deported. I’m surprised that it’s not a given

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

If you go to a country that you’re not from and you break some pretty serious laws, you should automatically be deported. I’m surprised that it’s not a given

That sounds like an excellent idea and that means it will never happen


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[Livia]

Poor white girls were their victims. The way this whole thing has been handled suggests those girls were worthless. If it had been Muslim girls, the perpetrators would have been treated as harshly as the law allowed. Heaven forbid someone should sound like a racist... and that's why these vile men got away with it. And are still getting away with it.

[The Slim Reaper]

I don't think you sound racist...

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Livia

Poor white girls were their victims. The way this whole thing has been handled suggests those girls were worthless. If it had been Muslim girls, the perpetrators would have been treated as harshly as the law allowed. Heaven forbid someone should sound like a racist... and that's why these vile men got away with it. And are still getting away with it.

Why aren’t their leaders doing something about this ongoing problem ( across the country) ?


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[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Why aren’t their leaders doing something about this ongoing problem ( across the country) ?


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Due to cultural differences, and not wanting to cause offence.