[Calderyon]

https://bigbrothernetwork.com/big-br...-date-set-cbs/

[Mystic Mock]

Hopefully it'll be better than the last Canadian series and the Cookout series.

They were both too race baity imo.

[Pro Sniper]

Just a whole load of more tripe. Having the puppets "scan tickets" etc.. pretending a "random" machine is telling them where to go..when it's clear their stations had already been pre-determined. Same as who was handpicked to be given that "backstage boss" nonsense. Pet-freak privileges already being gifted to pet-pouch. PATHETIC. And America has been asked to "impact the game" by saving one of the 3 weak females who already find themselves in danger. The moronic voters, completely ignorant of the fact their votes count for ZILCH since PATHETIC PRODUCTION will be gifting the safety to whichever one THEY favour.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Pro Sniper

Just a whole load of more tripe. Having the puppets "scan tickets" etc.. pretending a "random" machine is telling them where to go..when it's clear their stations had already been pre-determined. Same as who was handpicked to be given that "backstage boss" nonsense. Pet-freak privileges already being gifted to pet-pouch. PATHETIC. And America has been asked to "impact the game" by saving one of the 3 weak females who already find themselves in danger. The moronic voters, completely ignorant of the fact their votes count for ZILCH since PATHETIC PRODUCTION will be gifting the safety to whichever one THEY favour.

BBUSA always does this.

I don't know why they never let the series play out at least a little bit naturally.

Tbf I have yet to watch anything of this series yet, but I can believe you that it's heavily rigged.

[Mystic Mock]

I watched the launch.

I've got to be honest I have never felt so bored watching a BB launch show before.

My main issue was how much time was dedicated to three mini tasks before the actual HOH, I wanted actual time to be devoted to the dynamics in the house, and getting to know the HG's a little bit, which imo neither goal was achieved.

Hopefully the next episode is better.

[Pro Sniper]

That was a tweet by Xavier. The same clown who was the leader of the biggest racist group to ever exist on BB, railroading and mocking every non-black houseguest in a ludicrous, self-proclaimed 'cause' that was fancified by all idiots into a nauseating holier-than-thou "mission"(A sinister "mission" that only an arrogant fool or complete idiot couldn't see could prove problematic for future seasons..)

Relying on grossly exaggerated or pure mythical "facts" to justify his own racist crew, X and his bullshyte gang did nothing but widen the gap between races,, and yet HE has the audacity to pipe up and cry like a little bitch when 1 single POC is emerging as possible target for eviction. Truly PATHETIC.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Pro Sniper

That was a tweet by Xavier. The same clown who was the leader of the biggest racist group to ever exist on BB, railroading and mocking every non-black houseguest in a ludicrous, self-proclaimed 'cause' that was fancified by all idiots into a nauseating holier-than-thou "mission"(A sinister "mission" that only an arrogant fool or complete idiot couldn't see could prove problematic for future seasons..)

Relying on grossly exaggerated or pure mythical "facts" to justify his own racist crew, X and his bullshyte gang did nothing but widen the gap between races,, and yet HE has the audacity to pipe up and cry like a little bitch when 1 single POC is emerging as possible target for eviction. Truly PATHETIC.

Xavier played a racist game imo, but I also don't think that he is actually racist in his day to day life if that makes sense.

And from what I can gather from what people are saying on Jokers, it seems like Taylor is being disliked by the other girls in the house, which I'm taking to mean that she's possibly showmancing a guy that the other girls want to Showmance, might be confident in herself (looks and capability etc) or all of the above.

Racism seems to be less of a thing, because why aren't any of the guys really hating her then? It seems to me like Xavier is just trying to excuse his racist gameplay style from his own season.

[Pro Sniper]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Xavier played a racist game imo, but I also don't think that he is actually racist in his day to day life if that makes sense.

And from what I can gather from what people are saying on Jokers, it seems like Taylor is being disliked by the other girls in the house, which I'm taking to mean that she's possibly showmancing a guy that the other girls want to Showmance, might be confident in herself (looks and capability etc) or all of the above.

Racism seems to be less of a thing, because why aren't any of the guys really hating her then? It seems to me like Xavier is just trying to excuse his racist gameplay style from his own season.

There would have to be a serious question mark on that.. from anyone who could so casually plot the downfall of the opposite color of their skin, in the way he(and the rest of the cookout members gleefully did)

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Pro Sniper

There would have to be a serious question mark on that.. from anyone who could so casually plot the downfall of the opposite color of their skin, in the way he(and the rest of the cookout members gleefully did)

You might be right, who knows I guess.

As I haven't watched any Live Feed of this particular series yet, would you say that Taylor is receiving racism?

[Mystic Mock]

And also didn't the Cookout completely ostracize Derek X from their group just because of the colour of his skin?

I honestly don't think that Xavier has a leg to stand on when it comes to racist gameplay.

[JTM45]

Hi guys. I’m trying to remember the name of the site (or the most reliable and longest lasting one at least) that live streams BB USA and BB Canada episodes from (I believe) the US.
If anyone could please let me know what it’s called I would be most grateful thanks! I realise it’s probably not the best idea to just post it here so it’s probably a better idea to send it to me via a PM.

As for Taylor’s drama. I went right off her the second she started embarrassing herself on the pool table. Just ‘cringe’. That’s all, lol.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by JTM45

Hi guys. I’m trying to remember the name of the site (or the most reliable and longest lasting one at least) that live streams BB USA and BB Canada episodes from (I believe) the US.
If anyone could please let me know what it’s called I would be most grateful thanks! I realise it’s probably not the best idea to just post it here so it’s probably a better idea to send it to me via a PM.

As for Taylor’s drama. I went right off her the second she started embarrassing herself on the pool table. Just ‘cringe’. That’s all, lol.

To me I feel like Taylor fans have ruined the natural flow of the season all because they couldn't handle their favourite being outplayed.

That's not Taylor's fault tbf, but it makes me resent her fans tbh as these same people rooted for a racist alliance last season, the irony.

For me I want gameplay back in BBUSA, I don't care who wins as long as it stops being about race or gender, the two topics that BBUSA have a bad habit of falling into lately.

And I'm sorry I don't know what website you're on about.

[Calderyon]

I know.

But it does not work anymore.

[Kargo]

I too really miss the gameplay aspect of the show.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Kargo

I too really miss the gameplay aspect of the show.

Well it's meant to be the bread and butter of the Show isn't it?

I feel like BB12 mildly started this trend of prejudiced alliances dominating the game, and then BB15 took it that one step further, and then The Cookout has done permanent damage to the BBUSA brand.

Sadly our era of BBUSA seems to be long gone.

[Pro Sniper]

It's become apparent that any real/raw behaviour in the show is now being questioned and scrutinised to the point where "game" trajectory is more predictable than ever. The woke and the rancid hypocrites have strangled the game into its current limp state.

Take this ridiculous season, where production have been forced to serve up rubbish "twists" to find a way to justify white or POC placing 2 of the same opposite color of themselves OTB without it being viewed as anything other than sinister(born via the proud legacy of "The Cookout") Of course, fully intended or not, this ludicrous "twist" has turned into handy 2-sided coin for them.. as they've ensured it's structured in a way that safegaurds multi HGs/giant alliance(as if the game isn't insanely predictable and boring enough ) Aside from all that rubbish, we had normal bitchiness and backstabbing that was quickly BLOWN UP into "bullying", "racism"(and they somehow managed to launch "colorism" into the mix,, one can only wonder what the next "ism" will be..) by a bunch of freaks who couldn't handle their "queen" being so easily snuffed out of the game. So they chuck their toys out the pram, threaten to boycott the season, cancel subs to live streams etc.. put enough pressure on production so that they slam the panic button and enter into CHEAT MODE..and that's ultimately what destroyed any authentic(at least semi, given the rigged control they have over blind bastard comps..with obvious penchant for helping pet-freaks) path for the season.

The moment production interfered and made the puppets aware of outside "perception", all of sudden the target on Taylor was zapped away like it never existed, and Turner(who was a virtual ghost until he conveniently "won" much needed HOH) is seen standing up giving anti-bullying speech(clearly written by production) accepting his encouraged/FORCED role with aplomb after realising he will at least be spared the venomous abuse he was in line for if daring not to pander to pet-freak Taylor - along with the other idiotic members who got together to include her in a completely "unfeigned" steamroll alliance. Again, giant alliances that dominate for weeks have forever been despised, but this time the hatred has been buried and the fickle fans are rolling around like pigs in shyte simply because their "queen" is now involved in one. PATHETIC.

I'm no longer watching the trash but I understand from those who still are, the show may as well change its name to 'Big Taylor'. As not only have they activated CHEAT MODE for her by basically backing the rest of the players into a corner and SCARING them into never targeting her(essentially gifting her an absurd bye to the end) the editors are working overtime to sell this fraudulent garbage to the general public. Trying to FORCE-FEED viewers this "poor me".."hard done by" person as a "worthy winner". For those of you who were keeping up to date with the feeds early on, you'll be aware that leaving all the MYTHICAL bullying aside, Taylor has faced no greater trials&tribulations than what Brittany has. Brittany was subject to the same bitchiness/"ostracising" house treatment.. and yet 1 case is brought ROARING to the fore while the other case is kept firmly in the dark like it's of no importance? Tell me how that makes any sense?? Could it be that while one individual looks like she'd could be found in modeling mags, the other looks like she could've stood in for Kathy Bates in Misery?? and by that fact alone, the former case is treated as "special", strongly implying that the difference in "beauty" is what determines the level of outrage felt. That is sadly the deeply shallow, highly moronic setting this show's fan base is clearly stationed on.

Speaking of morons, take a lil gander at the type of "respect" many of the "hi-moralled" Taylor stans have afforded Ameerah..

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Pro Sniper

It's become apparent that any real/raw behaviour in the show is now being questioned and scrutinised to the point where "game" trajectory is more predictable than ever. The woke and the rancid hypocrites have strangled the game into its current limp state.

Take this ridiculous season, where production have been forced to serve up rubbish "twists" to find a way to justify white or POC placing 2 of the same opposite color of themselves OTB without it being viewed as anything other than sinister(born via the proud legacy of "The Cookout") Of course, fully intended or not, this ludicrous "twist" has turned into handy 2-sided coin for them.. as they've ensured it's structured in a way that safegaurds multi HGs/giant alliance(as if the game isn't insanely predictable and boring enough ) Aside from all that rubbish, we had normal bitchiness and backstabbing that was quickly BLOWN UP into "bullying", "racism"(and they somehow managed to launch "colorism" into the mix,, one can only wonder what the next "ism" will be..) by a bunch of freaks who couldn't handle their "queen" being so easily snuffed out of the game. So they chuck their toys out the pram, threaten to boycott the season, cancel subs to live streams etc.. put enough pressure on production so that they slam the panic button and enter into CHEAT MODE..and that's ultimately what destroyed any authentic(at least semi, given the rigged control they have over blind bastard comps..with obvious penchant for helping pet-freaks) path for the season.

The moment production interfered and made the puppets aware of outside "perception", all of sudden the target on Taylor was zapped away like it never existed, and Turner(who was a virtual ghost until he conveniently "won" much needed HOH) is seen standing up giving anti-bullying speech(clearly written by production) accepting his encouraged/FORCED role with aplomb after realising he will at least be spared the venomous abuse he was in line for if daring not to pander to pet-freak Taylor - along with the other idiotic members who got together to include her in a completely "unfeigned" steamroll alliance. Again, giant alliances that dominate for weeks have forever been despised, but this time the hatred has been buried and the fickle fans are rolling around like pigs in shyte simply because their "queen" is now involved in one. PATHETIC.

I'm no longer watching the trash but I understand from those who still are, the show may as well change its name to 'Big Taylor'. As not only have they activated CHEAT MODE for her by basically backing the rest of the players into a corner and SCARING them into never targeting her(essentially gifting her an absurd bye to the end) the editors are working overtime to sell this fraudulent garbage to the general public. Trying to FORCE-FEED viewers this "poor me".."hard done by" person as a "worthy winner". For those of you who were keeping up to date with the feeds early on, you'll be aware that leaving all the MYTHICAL bullying aside, Taylor has faced no greater trials&tribulations than what Brittany has. Brittany was subject to the same bitchiness/"ostracising" house treatment.. and yet 1 case is brought ROARING to the fore while the other case is kept firmly in the dark like it's of no importance? Tell me how that makes any sense?? Could it be that while one individual looks like she'd could be found in modeling mags, the other looks like she could've stood in for Kathy Bates in Misery?? and by that fact alone, the former case is treated as "special", strongly implying that the difference in "beauty" is what determines the level of outrage felt. That is sadly the deeply shallow, highly moronic setting this show's fan base is clearly stationed on.

Speaking of morons, take a lil gander at the type of "respect" many of the "hi-moralled" Taylor stans have afforded Ameerah..

Is Ugh an idiot?

How the **** can they compare Taylor being outplayed to the **** that Candice went through in her series?

And Jesus Christ at the racism in nearly all of these Tweets, and they think that they have the moral high ground? Delusional freaks.

And the twists to keep Taylor in the game is the reason why I'll never watch BBUSA again, I honestly don't even have anything against Taylor, but the Show has honestly lost the plot with rigging her to safety in the first week.

If a player is honestly that bad at the game that they have to be saved in the first week by production, then that person is piss poor at the game, it's simple as that.

[Pro Sniper]

Spot-on, Mystic. It's not about having any actual ill-feeling toward any particular player. It's about calling out the sheer idiocy of production gifting a MAJOR leg-up to these types. It virtually RUINS a whole season for any neutral by having the entire season revolve around them. The entitlement that most of these pet-freaks exhibit(inc Taylor) once they know they're on easy street with the full backing of production.. becomes nauseating to watch. And when the real arrogance and cockiness comes out once they know have the majority of the public on side,, THAT is when things become pretty much unbearable. Again, I find it amusing that the US fans have always HATED the UK version of the show because the fans are the ones who set the tone on who is evicted and who ultimately wins the game. And yet here they are, blowing up and straight up FABRICATING all sorts of nonsense concerning sole individual, desperately heaping pressure on production to give them what they want(which is to have their fav be guaranteed progression) PATHETIC. It's not a popularity contest via vote, but it may as well be if pathetic production are seen kowtowing to the whims of any outside influence. But should Taylor ludicrously go on to "win", do we think it'll be acknowledged that the only reason she managed it was because she had the game CHEAT-stacked in her favour?? Of course not. They'll try and pass it off as 100% 'game acumen'. EMBARRASSING.

[Mystic Mock]

Well done Pro Sniper on calling the winner correctly.

It's also kinda sad at just how predictable the series seems to have been.

[Pro Sniper]

Sad indeed, Mystic. The winner prediction of this game(at least the way it's "sold" to the public) should never ever, ever be so stupidly easy to prognosticate.. given that if we go off numbers alone, each player has (only) theoretical 6% chance of finishing as the winner. As the game unfolds, each player obviously has the chance of increasing that % by A) winning comps, B) adapting to the social dynamics @ present&future. The only trouble is, with PATHETIC production getting so heavily involved in pushing certain/specific narratives, those a's and b's(that should be shaping the entire game) come to matter not a damn jot..as production simply put paid to any plans that are lining up to wreck whatever "pretty" narrative they're desperate to run with(e.g. NEVER having pet-freak Taylor evicted) This is what makes the whole show a complete and utter FARCE. A self-entitled, toxic dummy like Taylor wouldn't have a hope in hell's chance of winning this game on legit terms. Production knew this all too well..which is why they rigged a whole rotten season for her. It beggars belief how even her biggest of "stans" can be so willing to revel in her "achievement" by ignoring the glaring fraudulence of it all.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Pro Sniper

Sad indeed, Mystic. The winner prediction of this game(at least the way it's "sold" to the public) should never ever, ever be so stupidly easy to prognosticate.. given that if we go off numbers alone, each player has (only) theoretical 6% chance of finishing as the winner. As the game unfolds, each player obviously has the chance of increasing that % by A) winning comps, B) adapting to the social dynamics @ present&future. The only trouble is, with PATHETIC production getting so heavily involved in pushing certain/specific narratives, those a's and b's(that should be shaping the entire game) come to matter not a damn jot..as production simply put paid to any plans that are lining up to wreck whatever "pretty" narrative they're desperate to run with(e.g. NEVER having pet-freak Taylor evicted) This is what makes the whole show a complete and utter FARCE. A self-entitled, toxic dummy like Taylor wouldn't have a hope in hell's chance of winning this game on legit terms. Production knew this all too well..which is why they rigged a whole rotten season for her. It beggars belief how even her biggest of "stans" can be so willing to revel in her "achievement" by ignoring the glaring fraudulence of it all.

Fans of a particular Housemate always overlook rigging when it's in favour of their favourite unfortunately.

Especially in the heavily race baity BBUSA where white, Asian & Hispanic people aren't welcome at the moment.

[Macie Lightfoot]

I skimmed through this thread for a hot second and it made me realize why this forum is deader than dead. Anyway, here to share my thoughts because quite frankly it's easier for me to find old posts on this hellhole of a forum than other places if I ever need to reference anything!



Finally finishing my edgic and posting this. I don't seem to be as much in love with this season as people are here but it wasn't bad! Probably about on par with 23 for me. I think this cast was actually very Not Good but through a series of unlikely events we were really blessed with the best timeline possible which elevated things greatly. Taylor's journey is one of the most iconic things ever, fantastic winner, etc.

1. Taylor (****ing duh. A cultural icon, a truly unexpected but incredible winner, and easily one of the best journeys ever. So much star power and I don't know what hasn't been said already. Feel lucky to have witnessed it all live)
2. Jasmine (what a morph! She was maaaaybe my least favorite for the first week and a half, but then by the end of her HoH week things just started to click for me? One of the funniest HGs ever both intentionally and unintentionally, between how much she milked her injury and her absurd metaphors like #BlindsideButterbeans and scandals like Muffingate and Balloongate. Could easily be #1 if she was on a non-Taylor season)
3. Joseph (not a rabid Joseph stan like certain parts of fandom but he was cute and kinda fun and a staunch Taylor supporter and seems like a genuinely good person and honestly that's enough for a high ranking in this cast)
4. Indy (she wasn't really in the episodes but she was occasionally fun and funny on the feeds and she's been on a righteous tear postshow so good job Indy xx)
5. Brittany (alol so I actually found her to be EXTREMELY annoying and unbearable and insufferable and frustrating for the longest time, but then post-DE Brittany was just something else and it all wrapped back around into being hilarious with her sobbing at Michael backstabbing her, winning F5 POV while cosplaying Michael and screaming that this is for him, her ridiculously transparent attempt at trying to get Taylor out at F5 because she was staying up until 8AM having slumber parties, thinking Alyssa called her a Karen, melting down in the bathroom because she heard everyone reminiscing on the DE and thought they were laughing at her, refusing to speak to Turner at F4 and making him cry.... I mean you can just look at the edgic and see what a whirlwind endgame Brittany is. The same things that made her frustrating and unbearable early on suddenly made her hilarious in the endgame so that was fun)
6. Alyssa (she's fine! She kinda got thrust into a position that she wasn't ready for with the Kyle showmance and continually being an almost target and then having to ditch Kyle's ass after the race stuff came up, but she's really just a simple bikini girl and nothing more lol. She's ultimately harmless and was fun and funny on occasion, and being situationally interesting is enough for a top half ranking this season. Sad that she and Taylor aren't really on speaking terms anymore because their endgame friendship was cute and I honestly think genuine on Alyssa's part)
7. Michael (meh, I don't really care that much about him sorry! Just a Compbeast and final boss of sorts and he's not bad, just kinda boring and uninspiring. Points for being staunchly pro-Taylor and subtly serving as a Jury foreman to make sure she won!)
8. Turner (this seems like an appropriate spot for him because he's really a mixed bag. Occasionally funny and righteous like with his feud with Jasmine and his Week 3 HOH, occasionally cringey and annoying and also kind of a jerk? Some of his DRs were a little too in-on-the-joke for me to actually find them amusing, sometimes the Jasmine stuff went a liiiiiiiittle too far for my liking like with Balloongate, and he was also kinda frustrating as a player? Being afraid to go after Michael in the DE because he wanted to go with the house and also voting to evict Alyssa at F5 because he wanted to go with the house were frustratingly stupid comments that he seems to genuinely believe so that was kinda annoying)
9. Monte (so even though I would've rather seen a Monte win over a Turner win, I think I dislike Monte more now after it's all said and done? He was such a rollercoaster because there were times where he was good and righteous and rootable but then he'd always counter it by being AWFUL and low-key/high-key misogynistic? He had some weird af hangup about women and black women and Taylor specifically, and he too was TERRIBLE about her in the first few weeks. It kinda got cute when the Leftovers formed and they became more allies and friends but even then in the second half of the show he would randomly have days where he decided she was the worst person ever and hated her for no reason. And then they started hooking up in the endgame and then he would lash at/about her again, and then he lost $750,000 to him and I don't even think they're on speaking terms anymore! Some people just end up leaving the house the way they came in and unfortunately that rings true for Monte)
10. Ameerah (she was fine. I know certain sects of the fandom say she was THE WORST about Taylor but like......... Paloma and Terrance and Nicole and early game Jasmine and ****ing DANIEL were so much worse and I only have so much hate in my heart. Ameerah seemed like she was destined to girlboss the endgame until she suddenly became an epic Week 3 blindside and it was great to see! Love the fancams about her saying the game is easier than she expected it to be only to be booted like two days later lmfao. She also seems like she's actually not human garbage and just kinda got caught up in the house's bull**** but is willing to hold herself accountable, and that's so rare these days that I'll give her credit for that)
11. Pooch (honestly probably the person I have the least thoughts on? He was a boring appendage to the bad people but wasn't too bad himself from what I remember. Was just kind of simple and actually stupid for volunteering to be a pawn and whatnot. Kinda harmless enough for me to not care about since he ****ed off so quickly)
12. Paloma (oh my goodness what a whirlwind. The Paloma Experience was...... something, and I was here for it honestly! Her manic strategy sessions, her insistence that this was all just a simulation, her plan to subvert the prize fund by splitting the money through investing in everyone's businesses, being possessed by Descartes... it was unlike anything we've ever seen before. Unfortunately, watching someone have a mental breakdown on live feeds is only so much fun when they're also an awful person. She was one of the worst people to/about Taylor AND when she left the show she only continued to double down on things because of what she studied in her MediaST10 class at Berkeley sooooo yeah she had a chance of being in yellow but she's definitely in red)
13. Nicole (like just about everyone else in red, also an asshole and not really a good person, but she's saved from being bottom 3 for SOMETIMES being funny to laugh at, like her continual insistence that she's a 41 year old woman so she's smarter/better/whatever than everyone else, meltdown after the Ameerah blindside where she and Daniel got in the most melodramatic fight ever, when she had a heartfelt reveal to Terrance that she's actually a cop only for Terrance to survive eviction and have her reveal be for nothing, and her bizarre conspiracy theory that Monte, Jasmine, and Taylor were all connected through Black Greek Life. She also gets a few points for apparently dropping Daniel immediately post-show and trying to get back into Taylor's good graces lmaoooo)
14. Kyle (honestly just ANNOYING like his whole personality is being an unemployed Tik Toker and he was also annoying when the Leftovers formed and everyone was willing to be nominated as a pawn to get their Festie Bestie evicted but he'd chicken out and find excuses to not be nominated every single time. And then there was the whole race fiasco and.......... I *possibly controversially* think that Kyle kinda handled the blowback the best he could and seemed kinda genuine in his remorse/wanting to learn and become educated on the matter, and while that is better than... most other instances of BB racism, at the end of the day he's nearly 30 years old so his sheltered upbringing and ignorance are Not Cute and don't really work as excuses as well as he thought they might have)
15. Terrance (Crock Pot Pussy was good by accident during Dyre Fest but other than that he was a boring asshole in the house and apparently is also a terrible asshole outside of the house sooooo yeah, what a waste!)
16. Daniel (so so sooooo bad with no real redeeming qualities. Just a terrible person who somehow came out of the house, received the reception he did, and continued to double down on his awfulness. I know some people find his downfall satisfying or something but BIG PASS for me)

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

I skimmed through this thread for a hot second and it made me realize why this forum is deader than dead. Anyway, here to share my thoughts because quite frankly it's easier for me to find old posts on this hellhole of a forum than other places if I ever need to reference anything!



Finally finishing my edgic and posting this. I don't seem to be as much in love with this season as people are here but it wasn't bad! Probably about on par with 23 for me. I think this cast was actually very Not Good but through a series of unlikely events we were really blessed with the best timeline possible which elevated things greatly. Taylor's journey is one of the most iconic things ever, fantastic winner, etc.

1. Taylor (****ing duh. A cultural icon, a truly unexpected but incredible winner, and easily one of the best journeys ever. So much star power and I don't know what hasn't been said already. Feel lucky to have witnessed it all live)
2. Jasmine (what a morph! She was maaaaybe my least favorite for the first week and a half, but then by the end of her HoH week things just started to click for me? One of the funniest HGs ever both intentionally and unintentionally, between how much she milked her injury and her absurd metaphors like #BlindsideButterbeans and scandals like Muffingate and Balloongate. Could easily be #1 if she was on a non-Taylor season)
3. Joseph (not a rabid Joseph stan like certain parts of fandom but he was cute and kinda fun and a staunch Taylor supporter and seems like a genuinely good person and honestly that's enough for a high ranking in this cast)
4. Indy (she wasn't really in the episodes but she was occasionally fun and funny on the feeds and she's been on a righteous tear postshow so good job Indy xx)
5. Brittany (alol so I actually found her to be EXTREMELY annoying and unbearable and insufferable and frustrating for the longest time, but then post-DE Brittany was just something else and it all wrapped back around into being hilarious with her sobbing at Michael backstabbing her, winning F5 POV while cosplaying Michael and screaming that this is for him, her ridiculously transparent attempt at trying to get Taylor out at F5 because she was staying up until 8AM having slumber parties, thinking Alyssa called her a Karen, melting down in the bathroom because she heard everyone reminiscing on the DE and thought they were laughing at her, refusing to speak to Turner at F4 and making him cry.... I mean you can just look at the edgic and see what a whirlwind endgame Brittany is. The same things that made her frustrating and unbearable early on suddenly made her hilarious in the endgame so that was fun)
6. Alyssa (she's fine! She kinda got thrust into a position that she wasn't ready for with the Kyle showmance and continually being an almost target and then having to ditch Kyle's ass after the race stuff came up, but she's really just a simple bikini girl and nothing more lol. She's ultimately harmless and was fun and funny on occasion, and being situationally interesting is enough for a top half ranking this season. Sad that she and Taylor aren't really on speaking terms anymore because their endgame friendship was cute and I honestly think genuine on Alyssa's part)
7. Michael (meh, I don't really care that much about him sorry! Just a Compbeast and final boss of sorts and he's not bad, just kinda boring and uninspiring. Points for being staunchly pro-Taylor and subtly serving as a Jury foreman to make sure she won!)
8. Turner (this seems like an appropriate spot for him because he's really a mixed bag. Occasionally funny and righteous like with his feud with Jasmine and his Week 3 HOH, occasionally cringey and annoying and also kind of a jerk? Some of his DRs were a little too in-on-the-joke for me to actually find them amusing, sometimes the Jasmine stuff went a liiiiiiiittle too far for my liking like with Balloongate, and he was also kinda frustrating as a player? Being afraid to go after Michael in the DE because he wanted to go with the house and also voting to evict Alyssa at F5 because he wanted to go with the house were frustratingly stupid comments that he seems to genuinely believe so that was kinda annoying)
9. Monte (so even though I would've rather seen a Monte win over a Turner win, I think I dislike Monte more now after it's all said and done? He was such a rollercoaster because there were times where he was good and righteous and rootable but then he'd always counter it by being AWFUL and low-key/high-key misogynistic? He had some weird af hangup about women and black women and Taylor specifically, and he too was TERRIBLE about her in the first few weeks. It kinda got cute when the Leftovers formed and they became more allies and friends but even then in the second half of the show he would randomly have days where he decided she was the worst person ever and hated her for no reason. And then they started hooking up in the endgame and then he would lash at/about her again, and then he lost $750,000 to him and I don't even think they're on speaking terms anymore! Some people just end up leaving the house the way they came in and unfortunately that rings true for Monte)
10. Ameerah (she was fine. I know certain sects of the fandom say she was THE WORST about Taylor but like......... Paloma and Terrance and Nicole and early game Jasmine and ****ing DANIEL were so much worse and I only have so much hate in my heart. Ameerah seemed like she was destined to girlboss the endgame until she suddenly became an epic Week 3 blindside and it was great to see! Love the fancams about her saying the game is easier than she expected it to be only to be booted like two days later lmfao. She also seems like she's actually not human garbage and just kinda got caught up in the house's bull**** but is willing to hold herself accountable, and that's so rare these days that I'll give her credit for that)
11. Pooch (honestly probably the person I have the least thoughts on? He was a boring appendage to the bad people but wasn't too bad himself from what I remember. Was just kind of simple and actually stupid for volunteering to be a pawn and whatnot. Kinda harmless enough for me to not care about since he ****ed off so quickly)
12. Paloma (oh my goodness what a whirlwind. The Paloma Experience was...... something, and I was here for it honestly! Her manic strategy sessions, her insistence that this was all just a simulation, her plan to subvert the prize fund by splitting the money through investing in everyone's businesses, being possessed by Descartes... it was unlike anything we've ever seen before. Unfortunately, watching someone have a mental breakdown on live feeds is only so much fun when they're also an awful person. She was one of the worst people to/about Taylor AND when she left the show she only continued to double down on things because of what she studied in her MediaST10 class at Berkeley sooooo yeah she had a chance of being in yellow but she's definitely in red)
13. Nicole (like just about everyone else in red, also an asshole and not really a good person, but she's saved from being bottom 3 for SOMETIMES being funny to laugh at, like her continual insistence that she's a 41 year old woman so she's smarter/better/whatever than everyone else, meltdown after the Ameerah blindside where she and Daniel got in the most melodramatic fight ever, when she had a heartfelt reveal to Terrance that she's actually a cop only for Terrance to survive eviction and have her reveal be for nothing, and her bizarre conspiracy theory that Monte, Jasmine, and Taylor were all connected through Black Greek Life. She also gets a few points for apparently dropping Daniel immediately post-show and trying to get back into Taylor's good graces lmaoooo)
14. Kyle (honestly just ANNOYING like his whole personality is being an unemployed Tik Toker and he was also annoying when the Leftovers formed and everyone was willing to be nominated as a pawn to get their Festie Bestie evicted but he'd chicken out and find excuses to not be nominated every single time. And then there was the whole race fiasco and.......... I *possibly controversially* think that Kyle kinda handled the blowback the best he could and seemed kinda genuine in his remorse/wanting to learn and become educated on the matter, and while that is better than... most other instances of BB racism, at the end of the day he's nearly 30 years old so his sheltered upbringing and ignorance are Not Cute and don't really work as excuses as well as he thought they might have)
15. Terrance (Crock Pot Pussy was good by accident during Dyre Fest but other than that he was a boring asshole in the house and apparently is also a terrible asshole outside of the house sooooo yeah, what a waste!)
16. Daniel (so so sooooo bad with no real redeeming qualities. Just a terrible person who somehow came out of the house, received the reception he did, and continued to double down on his awfulness. I know some people find his downfall satisfying or something but BIG PASS for me)

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