[Crimson Dynamo]

The Match of the Day prompt reader called the new Illegal Migration Bill an
“immeasurably cruel policy directed at the most vulnerable people, in language
that is not dissimilar to that used by Germany in the 30s”.


The plans, unveiled by Suella Braverman, the Home Secretary, on Tuesday,
effectively ban those arriving via an illegal route from claiming asylum in the
UK.

Anyone caught attempting to enter the country illegally will also be barred from
returning or from claiming British citizenship in the future.



Mr Lineker's remarks were widely condemned by critics, who said they were
inappropriate for a BBC employee.

Robert Jenrick, the immigration minister whose wife and children are Jewish,
had condemned Mr Lineker's remarks earlier on Wednesday.

“My children are the grandchildren of Holocaust survivors and I think those
sorts of words should not be thrown around lightly,” he told Times Radio.

“Gary Lineker is paid for by the British taxpayer and it's disappointing that he
is so far out of step with the British public.”

In a separate interview on LBC, he suggested Mr Lineker should be sacked by
the BBC, demanding the presenter be shown a “red card”.

Ms Braverman echoed Mr Jenrick, calling Mr Lineker’s remarks
“irresponsible”.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...ure-nazi-jibe/

[Oliver_W]

Being compared to the Nazis is so overused that even when someone is espousing similar policies, the accusation no longer means anything.

I'm open to being proven wrong, but I can't think of any Nazi propaganda which talked about how their public services were stretched to breaking point, how they were overpopulated, and how the illegal migrants were costing them millions.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Does anyone really expect Lineker to be sacked, any more than he was the last
time he let rip on Twitter? The BBC does not sack its Left-liberal minded
contributors, however outrageous their remarks on or off-screen. It didn’t
happen when newsreader Maxine Croxall pulled a gleeful face when reporting
Boris Johnson’s withdrawal from the most recent Tory leadership contest.
Croxall was “pulled off air” – but was back within a few weeks. It didn’t happen
either, when Jo Brand suggested that protesters who had been throwing milk
shake over politicians should use battery acid instead. The BBC complaints
department admitted that the comment had gone “too far”, but denied it
amounted to incitement, and the corporation continued to employ Jo Brand.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...-elites-agree/

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Does anyone really expect Lineker to be sacked, any more than he was the last
time he let rip on Twitter? The BBC does not sack its Left-liberal minded
contributors, however outrageous their remarks on or off-screen. It didn’t
happen when newsreader Maxine Croxall pulled a gleeful face when reporting
Boris Johnson’s withdrawal from the most recent Tory leadership contest.
Croxall was “pulled off air” – but was back within a few weeks. It didn’t happen
either, when Jo Brand suggested that protesters who had been throwing milk
shake over politicians should use battery acid instead. The BBC complaints
department admitted that the comment had gone “too far”, but denied it
amounted to incitement, and the corporation continued to employ Jo Brand.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...-elites-agree/

Did Jo Brand ever apologize over that psychotic comment?

[bots]

he won't be sacked but he should be given he was warned before. Impartial BBC at it's best

[Tom4784]

It's important to point out when rhetoric starts to sound like nazism. It reminds me of both Putin and a commentator in the US recently. Putin blamed the war they started on Ukraine, while this commentator basically made out that the 'war against trans' was down to trans people themselves, and both of these statements echoed a statement made by the nazis that the jews were responsible for WW2.

The Right Wing is becoming more radicalised, and their rhetoric is becoming more comparable with nazism. If you have a problem with that being pointed out, and not the fact that such radicalisation is becoming common place, then you are part of the problem.

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

he won't be sacked but he should be given he was warned before. Impartial BBC at it's best

I mean, the BBC is right wing as **** so if you're acting like it is, then you're confusing right wing preference for impartiality.

[Zizu]

Why do people like Lineker and Gary Neville insist on commenting on politics or subjects they are not qualified to speak on ?


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[arista]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Why do people like Lineker and Gary Neville insist on commenting on politics or subjects they are not qualified to speak on ?

They do not follow them


I know about as it
as Every TV & Radio show today
is debating should Lineker be Fired?

[bots]

Originally Posted by arista

They do not follow them


I know about as it
as Every TV & Radio show today
is debating should Lineker be Fired?

lineker has nearly 6 million followers, so they do follow him

[arista]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

lineker has nearly 6 million followers, so they do follow him

Of course
those that watch his show

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Why do people like Lineker and Gary Neville insist on commenting on politics or subjects they are not qualified to speak on ?


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All people are qualified to speak on politics, if they weren't then Serious Debates would certainly be dead, because no regular here would be considered qualified either.

The problem lies with you and your desire to silence people from partaking in politics.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Why do people like Lineker and Gary Neville insist on commenting on politics or subjects they are not qualified to speak on ?


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I agreeZizu, he needs to stay with what hes good at,what was that again ? lol.

[arista]

Yes LT

Even the Labour Shadow
has said the BBC must stop him calling us Nazi's

[arista]

The BBC says he is sports presenter.


So What?

He Works at the BBC
and gets Evil Political talk going

[hijaxers]

Originally Posted by arista

The BBC says he is sports presenter.


So What?

He Works at the BBC
and gets Evil Political talk going

Well there was nothing sporting about his vile comments, does anyone even like him ?

[Liam-]

Look at all the free speech warriors wanting someone sacked and punished for having an opinion.

A person is allowed to post their opinions of the government on their own personal social media if they wish to, even if they work for a tv channel, we may be close to living in a government controlled dictatorship, but we’re not there yet, the government urging their bbc boss friend to have a word with a tv presenter for criticising them on his own time, away from his job, should terrify anyone who respects the law, freedom and democracy

[bots]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Look at all the free speech warriors wanting someone sacked and punished for having an opinion.

A person is allowed to post their opinions of the government on their own personal social media if they wish to, even if they work for a tv channel, we may be close to living in a government controlled dictatorship, but we’re not there yet, the government urging their bbc boss friend to have a word with a tv presenter for criticising them on his own time, away from his job, should terrify anyone who respects the law, freedom and democracy

he only has a voice because of the BBC and the BBC is supposed to be impartial. It is written into their contracts that it applies to all opinion they express on social media

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

he only has a voice because of the BBC and the BBC is supposed to be impartial. It is written into their contracts that it applies to all opinion they express on social media

Except it isn't impartial and it never has been. Question Time allows Right wing people to run wild while shutting down left wing points of view, Laura Kuensberg is soft on Tories and harsh to everyone else and the organisation as a whole seems to kowtow completely to the tories.

You want someone to face consequences for having an opinion that you don't like, and it's not an opinion that can inspire violence or hate. It's literally just pointing out the similarities in rhetoric.

You don't believe in impartiality, you want the BBC to continue being right-wing focused while punishing anyone who speaks against it.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

he only has a voice because of the BBC and the BBC is supposed to be impartial. It is written into their contracts that it applies to all opinion they express on social media

Isn't that a bit odd that the BBC won't let their workers express their own opinions in the contract?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Isn't that a bit odd that the BBC won't let their workers express their own opinions in the contract?

do you think if you worked for google and did that, you would survive?

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

do you think if you worked for google and did that, you would survive?

I'm just saying that companies shouldn't be controlling how their employees express themselves.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Isn't that a bit odd that the BBC won't let their workers express their own opinions in the contract?

He didn't express it on the BBC though.

He's a voter and taxpayer like multi millions of others and has as much right as any other voter or taxpayer to either praise or condemn government policies.
IN his OWN free time.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

He didn't express it on the BBC though.

He's a voter and taxpayer like multi millions of others and has as much right as any other voter or taxpayer to either praise or condemn government policies.
IN his OWN free time.

I agree with you Joey.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Isn't that a bit odd that the BBC won't let their workers express their own opinions in the contract?

It's not that unusual to be fair, I'd have to have some awkward conversations at my work if I went on an overly-political rant on Social Media and I'm obviously not anyone high profile or with a following. There's an expectation of professionalism and level-headedness though.

That's why I come on here and barf it all out anonymously

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

It's not that unusual to be fair, I'd have to have some awkward conversations at my work if I went on an overly-political rant on Social Media and I'm obviously not anyone high profile or with a following. There's an expectation of professionalism and level-headedness though.

That's why I come on here and barf it all out anonymously

I just feel that people should be allowed to express their opinions on the Government.

We're not China... Yet.