[Ammi]

Eight boys have now been arrested on suspicion of rape after a teenage girl was attacked on playing fields in Nottinghamshire.

Police are working “around the clock” to investigate the serious incident that took place in Newark last Saturday, between 5.30pm and 7pm.

Having arrested four boys on suspicion of rape last week, Nottinghamshire Police tonight said it had arrested four more.

One boy is aged 12, one is 13, two are 14, two are 15 and two are 16.

They have all been released on bail with conditions.

Detective Inspector Amy Revill said: “We have made a further four arrests in this case and our investigation is continuing to move at pace.

“We are continuing to support the girl and her family with specially trained officers and are doing everything we can to establish exactly what’s happened.

“I want to again appeal to the local community and anyone who may have any information to please get in touch with us. We have had several people come forward to help us with our inquiries – so thank you for your assistance.”

She added: “I understand the concerns this incident has caused to our community in Newark. But I want to make clear the team of detectives investigating this incident are working around the clock and we will uncover exactly what’s happened.

“We’ve been carrying out extra patrols in the area and this will continue.”


https://uk.yahoo.com/news/eight-boys...184917389.html

[Cherie]

Girls are just pieces of meat to the boys brought up on a diet of internet porn

Poor girl, she will never get over it

[The Slim Reaper]

Internet porn isn't to blame for boys choosing to rape. Rapes and gang rapes happen across all generations, times, and places. Rapists don't get to have an excuse ready.

I would wager rapes per capita were much much higher during the middle ages, and they didn't even have the internet, never mind PH.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Girls are just pieces of meat to the boys brought up on a diet of internet porn

Indeed - and now exacerbated by social media algorithms featuring Andrew Tate and other assorted misogynistic "men's rights" parasites. It's a situation that unfortunately is only going to get worse. And the justice system around it is an absolute joke.

If it happened to one of mine the culprits should be praying for a very lengthy custodial sentence, or that their parents are willing to move far, far away.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Girls are just pieces of meat to the boys brought up on a diet of internet porn

Poor girl, she will never get over it

I think that these guys are just scumbags tbh.

Because I've watched some really shocking Porn content over the years (that are legal obviously) and I have never even thought to do anything like this, because morally it's an evil action to do to anyone.

I feel like the most that Porn probably did, was give these kids a method of how to attack the girl, but I don't believe that Porn can turn decent kids into rapists.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I think that these guys are just scumbags tbh.

Because I've watched some really shocking Porn content over the years (that are legal obviously) and I have never even thought to do anything like this, because morally it's an evil action to do to anyone.

I feel like the most that Porn probably did, was give these kids a method of how to attack the girl, but I don't believe that Porn can turn decent kids into rapists.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

I'm innocent Chris I swear.

(Goes to eat Pizza)

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I think that these guys are just scumbags tbh.

Because I've watched some really shocking Porn content over the years (that are legal obviously) and I have never even thought to do anything like this, because morally it's an evil action to do to anyone.

I feel like the most that Porn probably did, was give these kids a method of how to attack the girl, but I don't believe that Porn can turn decent kids into rapists.

Porn absolutely contributes to a twisted mindset towards women, and twisted expectations of sexual relationships in general. As I said above though - the extra element that's making it worse is the general all-round misogyny being spread by Redpill/MRA type "influencers". And it's probably the bigger part of the problem. But the two are interlinked.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

Porn absolutely contributes to a twisted mindset towards women, and twisted expectations of sexual relationships in general. As I said above though - the extra element that's making it worse is the general all-round misogyny being spread by Redpill/MRA type "influencers". And it's probably the bigger part of the problem. But the two are interlinked.

I strongly disagree, and it's relevant to acknowledge your anti-porn attitude, which I don't agree with, but each to their own and it's none of anyone else's business outside of these discussions. I'm only bringing it up now because you've mentioned it yourself previously.

I agree with the 2nd part of what you said though, and I would also add in - looking at their mixed ages and because of how many there were, that peer pressure probably dragged a couple of them along to a place they would never have been otherwise. Not excusing anyone as we all make our own choices, but I think it's a factor.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

I strongly disagree, and it's relevant to acknowledge your anti-porn attitude, which I don't agree with, but each to their own and it's none of anyone else's business outside of these discussions.

...



Porn in general and the pornography industry are inherently misogynistic and exploitative, 95%+ of the women you've ever watched in porn have come out of the industry either mentally damaged, physically damaged, or likely both. Many of them were vulnerable before they entered in the first place. Some of them were probably coerced.

A very, very small percentage who have effectively "won the porn lottery" will have had a very successful career and have made a lot of money. Most of them will still have suffered physical damage. Many will experience strong regret and possible mental health issues as a result of their time in the industry - even if it was as on-the-level as it gets and they made a tonne of cash.

I dunno man it's not so much that I'm just "anti-porn" as that I find it a little difficult to get a chub on when considering all of the (easily and clearly verifiable) statistics about the effect of the porn industry on women, both individually and societally. And I don't think it's an "each to their own"... I think the industry should be burned to the ground and a large proportion of the big names at the top of it should be in prison.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

Porn absolutely contributes to a twisted mindset towards women, and twisted expectations of sexual relationships in general. As I said above though - the extra element that's making it worse is the general all-round misogyny being spread by Redpill/MRA type "influencers". And it's probably the bigger part of the problem. But the two are interlinked.

Blaming Porn for rape is like blaming Video Games or Movies for murders.

I get why people want to blame these things, because it can be more comforting than thinking that a bunch of kids are broken from something that's probably going on in their actual lives, rather than what's going on, on the Internet.

Edit... The Redpill guys pray on already mentally vulnerable people imo, again I don't believe that they can make these people go unstable though, but they definitely encourage it imo, which should be prosecuted I feel.

[Beso]

Is it brown on white rape ammi?

[Beso]

I think it's worse for the girl who has also watched porn and feels like this is what every girl wants.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by parmnion

I think it's worse for the girl who has also watched porn and feels like this is what every girl wants.

Indeed Parmy the number of young girls who engage in painful (and sometimes dangerous - "choking" being a prime example) sexual activity in large part because porn has made it seem "normal" is sky high. It's bloody awful.

Adults are obviously entitled to engage in whatever experimentation they find interesting to find out what they might genuinely enjoy ... but that's a million miles from the expectation. Expectation from boys that it's normal to ask for it, acceptance from girls that it's abnormal to say a flat no to it.

(Just to acknowledge, this expectation-acceptance dynamic does sometimes go the other way from girls to boys, but much less often)

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

Indeed Parmy the number of young girls who engage in painful (and sometimes dangerous - "choking" being a prime example) sexual activity in large part because porn has made it seem "normal" is sky high. It's bloody awful.

Adults are obviously entitled to engage in whatever experimentation they find interesting to find out what they might genuinely enjoy ... but that's a million miles from the expectation. Expectation from boys that it's normal to ask for it, acceptance from girls that it's abnormal to say a flat no to it.

(Just to acknowledge, this expectation-acceptance dynamic does sometimes go the other way from girls to boys, but much less often)

I just want to say that any woman that would want me to choke them during sex, is making me do a runner.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I just want to say that any woman that would want me to choke them during sex, is making me do a runner.

I don't want to move this discussion away from this absolutely heinous story, but there is at least a logic of enhanced orgasms behind this. I've dated a couple of girls that enjoyed and asked me to do this, and I also had a friend that used to Michael Hutchence himself regularly, obviously not to the point of death.

Anyway, apologies for dragging this thread and mods feel free to delete if this is too out of place.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

I don't want to move this discussion away from this absolutely heinous story, but there is at least a logic of enhanced orgasms behind this. I've dated a couple of girls that enjoyed and asked me to do this, and I also had a friend that used to Michael Hutchence himself regularly, obviously not to the point of death.

Anyway, apologies for dragging this thread and mods feel free to delete if this is too out of place.

Fair play to people that enjoy that stuff.

But that particular kink is not for me.

[Beso]

Using that logic slim, do you think both of Jamie bulgers killers are as guilty as each other?

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Using that logic slim, do you think both of Jamie bulgers killers are as guilty as each other?

Yes. The power dynamic between boys of similar ages is a lot different to that between a 12yr old and a 16yr old.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

Porn absolutely contributes to a twisted mindset towards women, and twisted expectations of sexual relationships in general. As I said above though - the extra element that's making it worse is the general all-round misogyny being spread by Redpill/MRA type "influencers". And it's probably the bigger part of the problem. But the two are interlinked.

100 per cent, back in the day the most boys would have access to were some top shelf mags or page 3 boobs, now from a very early age probably as early as 7 or 8 if they have a smart phone they have access to the most horrendous stuff made for adults who allegedly can tell the difference between fact and fiction. Unfortunately for the 7 year old its not exactly the kind of thing they are going to discuss with an adult to get a different perspective.

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

I strongly disagree, and it's relevant to acknowledge your anti-porn attitude, which I don't agree with, but each to their own and it's none of anyone else's business outside of these discussions. I'm only bringing it up now because you've mentioned it yourself previously.

I agree with the 2nd part of what you said though, and I would also add in - looking at their mixed ages and because of how many there were, that peer pressure probably dragged a couple of them along to a place they would never have been otherwise. Not excusing anyone as we all make our own choices, but I think it's a factor.

Sure but thats besides the point

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Sure but thats besides the point

You can disagree with the point, but if rape existed before internet porn on a probable much larger scale, then why is a diet of internet porn to blame? It just goes to show that there will always be males that will do this.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

You can disagree with the point, but if rape existed before internet porn on a probable much larger scale, then why is a diet of internet porn to blame? It just goes to show that there will always be males that will do this.

Sure, but I also dont think access to porn at an age where you are vulnerable and unable to decipher what is going on helps do you? We have age ratings on films for a reason..... why would porn be any different, its an adult activity at the end of the day

[Mystic Mock]

The Porn industry could definitely do with cleaning up it's act behind the scenes (as could many industries tbh,) but I am with Slim that Porn isn't that much different from other industries that have a lot of criminal activity behind the scenes.

Plus, Porn is one of the last industries where attractive women still exist.

I'm joking on the last part (to an extent) but it does to me feel like Porn is getting scapegoated in the same way that GTA used to get back in the day, when a child would commit a murder and it would turn out that the kid would be a fan of GTA.

[user104658]

I'm going to leave this one alone because it just winds me up too much honestly.

I accept that people have their vices, and if accepting it for what it is and continuing to engage with and consume pornography is on balance something anyone wants to accept as a reasonable trade-off to keep doing something they enjoy, I can actually accept that for what it is. No one is without their vices, anyone who claims to be is lying.

However... to ignore the facts and argue that it's not an issue and not harmful, when it has been shown, indisputably, time and time again, to be an industry (both professional and amateur) that causes both direct and indirect harm, in order to continue to enjoy it with a guilt-free conscience, is something else entirely.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

I'm going to leave this one alone because it just winds me up too much honestly.

I accept that people have their vices, and if accepting it for what it is and continuing to engage with and consume pornography is on balance something anyone wants to accept as a reasonable trade-off to keep doing something they enjoy, I can actually accept that for what it is. No one is without their vices, anyone who claims to be is lying.

However... to ignore the facts and argue that it's not an issue and not harmful, when it has been shown, indisputably, time and time again, to be an industry (both professional and amateur) that causes both direct and indirect harm, in order to continue to enjoy it with a guilt-free conscience, is something else entirely.

Porn has it's problems behind the scenes, I don't think that anyone is denying that.

It's just to me personally, I don't see how an entertainment product (which is what Porn is intended to be) turns normal children into rapists? To me that already tells me that these children were already broken, and Porn possibly gave them a method to act it out on this poor girl.

But my belief is that if it weren't Porn or Andrew Tate (whichever one that it's likely to be) then I think that they would've committed another criminal offense instead.

Damaged kids is always a sad scenario imo, but I would be looking at family members, Teachers, or Social Media Influencers maybe possibly teaching these kids dangerous ideology, and then they've taken it to the victim.