[Kate!]

.....To support Kamala Harris. Political bloody bias. They should be obliged to remain neutral? Surely?
Do you think it's right, or very very wrong?

Also apparently some people are calling Trump deranged! Well I just watched an interview with Kamala and she was laughing so hard and so manically I thought she was going to cough up a lung. She was incoherent. I think she's a total fruit loop. Do you think she's fit to run America?

Post your opinions here.

[Kate!]

Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer has played down the significance of alleged interference by the Labour Party in the US presidential election.

The Trump campaign has filed a complaint with the Federal Election Commission in Washington seeking an immediate investigation into alleged "blatant foreign interference".

Sir Keir, who met Trump last month, said party staff going to the US to campaign for Democratic candidate Kamala Harris were volunteers "doing it in their spare time" and staying with other volunteers.

Environment Secretary Steve Reed told the BBC the Labour Party had not funded or organised their trips, while Deputy Prime Minister Angela Rayner also insisted the activists had been campaigning "in their own time".

[Glenn.]

Yes she’s very fit to run America.

Trump is deranged. His supporters are deranged. Anyone who disagrees with that id deranged.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Yes she’s very fit to run America.

Trump is deranged. His supporters are deranged. Anyone who disagrees with that id deranged.

Yep, although I will say, a lot of Trump fans love him because he’s deranged and horrifically racist

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Yep, although I will say, a lot of Trump fans love him because he’s deranged and horrifically racist

Not even close to being as racist as you. You're far more racist.

[Liam-]

So Labour didn’t send people to campaign for Kamala then, got it, now let’s talk about Farage following Trump around America like a leech rather than doing his actual job.

Also, yes, Trump is severely deranged, a woman who laughs is a the vastly superior choice to somebody who rambles like a cuckoo in an old folks home

[bots]

The USA have been interfering in UK politics, indeed global politics for years. Trump has been interfering in USA politics, inviting world leaders to talks when he doesnt represent the current administration. That most certainly is against the law in America

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by bots

The USA have been interfering in UK politics, indeed global politics for years. Trump has been interfering in USA politics, inviting world leaders to talks when he doesnt represent the current administration. That most certainly is against the law in America

Hi bots.
I missed your post last night but want to say you are right.

Our Parties have sought the advice of American political strategists to advise our Parties at times too.
I listed Betty Boothroyd who went to help Kennedy in 1960


I could have gone this year but I actually don't like USA politics.
Ours is bad enough.
This has gone on for decades.

For me, as long as NO MP elected to the UK parliament go over, I see no problem.
Others even if in prominent positions as members, actng individually to go and give support is fine.

It looks to me that Trump and his paranoid team, are lining up excuses in case they lose again.
To blame any and everyone ANYWHERE for the loss.

I won't Labour my Farage point again but he is now an elected MP and leader of a Party.
Yet supporting Trump publicly and actively.
Which actually again I see nothing untoward about.
Since that's seen as domething that seems fine, then why this fuss against another Party?

This has gone on from all Parties both in opposition and in government.
I frankly wouldn't be bothered even if some funding was in place.
It's actually good in my view to get active experience of other political processes in elections.

I agree obviously with what you posted above though.

[Beso]

Could probaly only find 100 likeable ones.

[Jessica.]

Kamala is likely to win.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

Kamala is likely to win.

I personally hope so.

Don't get me wrong, Trump can make me laugh with some of the batshit crazy things that he says, but I wouldn't want him to be running America again.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I personally hope so.

Don't get me wrong, Trump can make me laugh with some of the batshit crazy things that he says, but I wouldn't want him to be running America again.

I agree he can be funny albeit more deranged so.
Good grief he's complaining at our government possibly because he fears losing again.
Yet the Republicans in elections past have had support from political supporters from the UK in past USA elections too.

It's the title of this thread I am furious about.
In saying Labour SENT these people.
These are people immaterial of their status as members who are NOT elected and independently wanted to go by choice.
NOT sent by any Party.

Because the thread title is misleading in its format and question.
IN MY OPINION.
The opening post acting like both judge and jury too.

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I agree he can be funny albeit more deranged so.
Good grief he's complaining at our government possibly because he fears losing again.
Yet the Republicans in elections past have had support from political supporters from the UK in past USA elections too.

It's the title of this thread I am furious about.
In saying Labour SENT these people.
These are people immaterial of their status as members who are NOT elected and independently wanted to go by choice.
NOT sent by any Party.

Because the thread title is misleading in its format and question.
IN MY OPINION.

Excuse me. The thread title is perfectly fine. It doesn't allege in any way that the volunteers got paid. Look again at where I quoted Sofia Patels statement on LinkedIn where she confirms 100 volunteers went out there and that they were offered housing for the duration. Oh hang on you can't check it, it's been deleted I think.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kate!

Excuse me. The thread title is perfectly fine. It doesn't allege in any way that the volunteers got paid. Look again at where I quoted Sofia Patels statement on LinkedIn where she confirms 100 volunteers went out there and that they were offered housing for the duration. Oh hang on you can't check it, it's been deleted I think.

So what???
She's not an elected MP.

What she supports personally and independently is up to her asong as it's not illegal.
No matter the status as a member she's NOT an elected MP.
So what's your inference.

Either you are still insistent in your thread title that LABOUR SENT these people.
Which is absolutely misleading in that very wording.
Or you are also accusing that woman of wrongdoing from her personal position.

You, ONLY YOU made this thread and presented the title as fact.
I don't need to check it out, I could have gone myself and was tempted to as I'd do just about anything to not have Trump.back as President.

So had I actually gone over, just WHAT would you have been ACCUSING me of Kate.
When all Id have been doing is what YOUR Party leader has done in the last 3 elections for Trump.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I agree he can be funny albeit more deranged so.
Good grief he's complaining at our government possibly because he fears losing again.
Yet the Republicans in elections past have had support from political supporters from the UK in past USA elections too.

It's the title of this thread I am furious about.
In saying Labour SENT these people.
These are people immaterial of their status as members who are NOT elected and independently wanted to go by choice.
NOT sent by any Party.

Because the thread title is misleading in its format and question.
IN MY OPINION.
The opening post acting like both judge and jury too.

Oh, he is very deranged I agree with you on that.

And I had a feeling that you were bothered by the title primarily.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

Kamala is likely to win.

I echo Mock Jessica.
I hope so too.

[joeysteele]

As to all Parties it's been the case for ages.
Labour sent NO ONE to the States.
It's individuals who have chosen to go.

It's happened with members of the Cons too.
Not MPs or elected representatives.
Just the same here .

Nothing from ANY governnents immaterial of Party.

However what about Farage now an elected MP to parliament going over and helping his friend Trump get elected.

Or is he admired for that while other Party supporters or even members get vilified
Farage from the UK has gone to the USA for I understand all of the elections Trump has fought.

Personally I wouldn't go, who'd want to be in the ridiculous circus of the USA politics.
However whatever the reasons, I'd hope the Democrats win the USA election but I really feel Trump will win.

This thread however is insulting.
Neither Labour or the Cons in government or opposition have sent elected representatives to the USA at elections.
Contrast that with Farage and Reform.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

As to all Parties it's been the case for ages.
Labour sent NO ONE to the States.
It's individuals who have chosen to go.

It's happened with members of the Cons too.
Not MPs or elected representatives.
Just the same here .

Nothing from ANY governnents immaterial of Party.

However what about Farage now an elected MP to parliament going over and helping his friend Trump get elected.

Or is he admired for that while other Party supporters or even members get vilified
Farage from the UK has gone to the USA for I understand all of the elections Trump has fought.

Personally I wouldn't go, who'd want to be in the ridiculous circus of the USA politics.
However whatever the reasons, I'd hope the Democrats win the USA election but I really feel Trump will win.

This thread however is insulting.
Neither Labour or the Cons in government or opposition have sent elected representatives to the USA at elections.
Contrast that with Farage and Reform.

…don’t any volunteers who go, go exactly as that…in their own time and at their own expense…I guess that it’s possibly like a work experience in experiencing part of the workings of another country election process…

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…don’t any volunteers who go, go exactly as that…in their own time and at their own expense…I guess that it’s possibly like a work experience in experiencing part of the workings of another country election process…

Yes exactly.
It's individuals by choice wanting to go.

No elected representatives just ordinary people who happen to be members of a Party.

It's happened for decades Ammi.
My fury is, no one has complained when it was from the Cons, or other Parties, Inc UKIP when it was UKIP.
Nor any complaint Farage, now leader of UKIP MK3 in Reform.

Yes you are right however, that is how it usually works.

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Yes exactly.
It's individuals by choice wanting to go.

No elected representatives just ordinary people who happen to be members of a Party.

It's happened for decades Ammi.
My fury is, no one has complained when it was from the Cons, or other Parties, Inc UKIP when it was UKIP.
Nor any complaint Farage, now leader of UKIP MK3 in Reform.

Yes you are right however, that is how it usually works.

The LinkedIn post says 100 current and former party officials. It was there in black and white till they conveniently deleted it.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kate!

The LinkedIn post says 100 current and former party officials. It was there in black and white till they conveniently deleted it.

What?
Officiais are not elected MPs !!!!!???

They have independent lives too.

There's no difference either to Farage going to help Trump get elected.
It's exactly the same thing.
Whether they're friends or not.
Plus he IS an elected MP and was also an Elected member of the European Parliament too.

I actually wouldn't personally object if MPs even went to support there anyhow.
So I'm.not even condemning Farage for doing so.
Unlike you with other Parties volunteers independently doing so.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

As to all Parties it's been the case for ages.
Labour sent NO ONE to the States.
It's individuals who have chosen to go.

It's happened with members of the Cons too.
Not MPs or elected representatives.
Just the same here .

Nothing from ANY governnents immaterial of Party.

However what about Farage now an elected MP to parliament going over and helping his friend Trump get elected.

Or is he admired for that while other Party supporters or even members get vilified
Farage from the UK has gone to the USA for I understand all of the elections Trump has fought.

Personally I wouldn't go, who'd want to be in the ridiculous circus of the USA politics.
However whatever the reasons, I'd hope the Democrats win the USA election but I really feel Trump will win.

This thread however is insulting.
Neither Labour or the Cons in government or opposition have sent elected representatives to the USA at elections.
Contrast that with Farage and Reform.

Here's Joey defending criminality all because of his tribal, political support of Labour.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Alf

Here's Joey defending criminality all because of his tribal, political support of Labour.

What criminality has Joey defended?

No crime has been committed based on the evidence that we have so far.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

What criminality has Joey defended?

No crime has been committed based on the evidence that we have so far.

Oh hey Mock.
Don't waste your time there.

It's bad enough that this thread is totally misleading lies.
In the way the heading and question is phrased.

Don't open yourself to unjustified criticism defending myself mate

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Oh hey Mock.
Don't waste your time there.

It's bad enough that this thread is totally misleading lies.
In the way the heading and question is phrased.

Don't open yourself to unjustified criticism defending myself mate

Thanks Joey.

But I don't like anyone being accused of something that factually isn't true.