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arista · 02-02-2025, 11:33 AM

[Divine Doti, 29, was moved into the
one-bed emergency accommodation
in 2020 by Haringey Council in North London.]

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Livia · 02-02-2025, 12:38 PM

Maybe only have the kids you can afford?

Cherie · 02-02-2025, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia

Maybe only have the kids you can afford?

seems an alien concept....

user104658 · 02-02-2025, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie

seems an alien concept....

You can't have a society where having kids is broadly unaffordable, tell British people not to have children if they can't independently afford it, insist on lower migration numbers, and expect a functional economy.

Declining populations are not economically functional, to keep a population static or increasing you need to either let British people have more kids, or accept more immigration. There is no option number 3. I agree in principle that having children should be affordable for the people having them, but the situation in the UK currently is that if that was adhered to, birth rates would be so low that it would be unsustainable for more than a few decades.

It's a simple fact that in 2025 most couples of "child bearing age" can't independently afford to run a family home. Which is a shocking situation for the country, not an individual failing.

Cherie · 02-02-2025, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Quantum Boy

You can't have a society where having kids is broadly unaffordable, tell British people not to have children if they can't independently afford it, insist on lower migration numbers, and expect a functional economy.

Declining populations are not economically functional, to keep a population static or increasing you need to either let British people have more kids, or accept more immigration. There is no option number 3. I agree in principle that having children should be affordable for the people having them, but the situation in the UK currently is that if that was adhered to, birth rates would be so low that it would be unsustainable for more than a few decades.

It's a simple fact that in 2025 most couples of "child bearing age" can't independently afford to run a family home. Which is a shocking situation for the country, not an individual failing.

I can't help but think if more Dads were willing to stick around things might not be as bad, the simple fact is people need to stop thinking the state is going to give them more than a basic standard of living, if you need more you need to do it yourself ...as a positive she is in a one bed flat, it could be much worse she could be in a hotel room, she says the bedroom is full, with the kids sleeping on matresses on the floor, a bunk bed might solve the issue while they are all small, and get herself a decent sofa bed....she could make it work half the junk in that room could be sold off, you dont need to have a slide in your house for instance ...

user104658 · 02-02-2025, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie

I can't help but think if more Dads were willing to stick around things might not be as bad, the simple fact is people need to stop thinking the state is going to give them more than a basic standard of living, if you need more you need to do it yourself ...as a positive she is in a one bed flat, it could be much worse she could be in a hotel room, she says the bedroom is full, with the kids sleeping on matresses on the floor, a bunk bed might solve the issue while they are all small, and get herself a decent sofa bed....she could make it work half the junk in that room could be sold off, you dont need to have a slide in your house for instance ...

The state doesn't give people more than a basic standard of living. And it absolutely is the state's job to ensure that the economy functions in a way that allows families to be able to exist with a reasonable standard of living. That and defense are literally the state's only two purposes.

Also the idea that everyone can have a bigger slice of pie if they work harder is obviously not true; it's just not how economies work. More work as a collective doesn't = more pie to go around. There is only so much pie. If you work hard you might get more of the pie. Ideally that will come from a wealthier person's slice and not the last crust of some other poor soul's... but it certainly doesn't mean "more pie for everyone". It's a myth. It SHOULD work, because the people with most of the pie SHOULDN'T be able to hoard all of the pie for themselves - but they do.

Like I said in principle I don't disagree that every family should be in a position to afford kids before they have kids, but the reality of that in most of the western world's current situation is a drastic reduction in birth rates and (very quickly) economic collapse. Why do you think the states are banning abortion? It's not because Jesus says abortion is bad, it's because they desperately want to avoid population decline. They don't want it to be that people who can't reasonably continue an unplanned pregnancy due to affordability can easily make that choice. Because year on year more and more people would have to say "Can't afford it". Housing is too expensive. Utilities are too expensive. Food is too expensive. Couples can't "afford kids independently" until they're pushing 40 by which point many either physically cannot, or are settled in life and choose not to.

Class sizes of incoming primary schools in many areas are already at record lows.

just have a peek at SK and you will see the effect of young people choosing not to have kids. They're at the point of offering up massive cash incentives.

Crimson Dynamo · 02-02-2025, 12:56 PM

Words fail me

Crimson Dynamo · 02-02-2025, 01:11 PM

Where does the Father sleep?

Cherie · 02-02-2025, 02:02 PM

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Where does the Father sleep?

He is busy making babies elsewhere that he will walk away from as well I guess

arista · 02-02-2025, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

Where does the Father sleep?

No Dad.

She is Now Single

Jessica. · 02-02-2025, 01:26 PM

Her children are so beautiful, hope they are able to have more space soon.

Glenn. · 02-02-2025, 01:49 PM

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Her children are so beautiful, hope they are able to have more space soon.

Same. I hope she’s helped more.

arista · 02-02-2025, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Jessica.

Her children are so beautiful, hope they are able to have more space soon.

They are hoping the Council
will move them.

Gusto Brunt · 02-02-2025, 02:06 PM

My advice to her is get on those beaches where the migrants are landing, she'd be picked up, and all her family put up in a five star hotel, with gold taps, and loads of free food food, clothes, money and a new iphone.

She won't have work either.

Cherie · 02-02-2025, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt

My advice to her is get on those beaches where the migrants are landing, she'd be picked up, and all her family put up in a five star hotel, with gold taps, and loads of free food food, clothes, money and a new iphone.

She won't have work either.

or here is a radical idea stop having babies that you expect the State to support, it is a horrible way to bring children into the world with no stability and no home...it looks like she was badly advised when she was told having more babies would get her a house ... feel sorry for the kids as they have no choice in how their parents act

Gusto Brunt · 02-02-2025, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie

or here is a radical idea stop having babies that you expect the State to support, it is a horrible way to bring children into the world with no stability and no home...it looks like she was badly advised when she was told having more babies would get her a house ... feel sorry for the kids as they have no choice in how their parents act

Yeah but the thing is, the kids are here now. They need help. No good being British.

She'll have to pretend to be a migrant to get any help in this country. Sounds crazy but it's true.

She's proof of it.

Cherie · 02-02-2025, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt

Yeah but the thing is, the kids are here now. They need help. No good being British.

She'll have to pretend to be a migrant to get any help in this country. Sounds crazy but it's true.

She's proof of it.

Maybe the Dad could step up and provide for them????????????????