[Father Chris Mouse]

When you constantly remind people you used to be a female, it must be hard to differentiate at times.

I accept Zelah as a man, from day one, i see him as a man. But being reminded daily he used to live as a woman, and be a woman, it's hard not to see it. Idk.

It wasn't that bad because it wasn't malicious.

Just wanna say, fck this current BB, obsessed with politics and gender, boring af.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by Swan

When you constantly remind people you used to be a female, it must be hard to differentiate at times.

I accept Zelah as a man, from day one, i see him as a man. But being reminded daily he used to live as a woman, and be a woman, it's hard not to see it. Idk.

It wasn't that bad because it wasn't malicious.

Just wanna say, fck this current BB, obsessed with politics and gender, boring af.

Tonight they have ruined the series

No coming back now

Ratings will plummet

[Good King Glennceslas]

He’s just telling his story. Much needed in today’s climate.

People being openly transphobic without fear of consequence shows how far we have fallen.

[Father Chris Mouse]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

He’s just telling his story. Much needed in today’s climate.

People being openly transphobic without fear of consequence shows how far we have fallen.

It was factual in the sense Zelah couldn't reproduce on a desert Island with a woman.

[The Grinch]

Originally Posted by Swan

It was factual in the sense Zelah couldn't reproduce on a desert Island with a woman.

I agree however I’d of worded it very differently

[Cherry Christmas]

Most of the other HMs took the opportunity to get that airtime lbr

[Yuki Maru Hoshi]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Most of the other HMs took the opportunity to get that airtime lbr

Absolutely. Caroline saying she had to apologize to everyone was ridiculous. She only owed an apology to Zelah. The rest of the group acting offended by proxy and entitled to some kind of explanation sums up a lot of what's wrong with society today.

[Good King Glennceslas]

Originally Posted by Swan

It was factual in the sense Zelah couldn't reproduce on a desert Island with a woman.

It would be an island of inbreds no matter who was reproducing. Not sure why anyone thinks that’s a good idea.

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

It would be an island of inbreds no matter who was reproducing. Not sure why anyone thinks that’s a good idea.

what ....no one is related in the house, how would it be inbred

[The Grinch]

Originally Posted by Cherie

what ....no one is related in the house, how would it be inbred

Because they’d produce with there brothers and sisters silly

[Good King Glennceslas]

Originally Posted by Cherie

what ....no one is related in the house, how would it be inbred

Have a little think about how reproduction works.

[Father Chris Mouse]

Originally Posted by Cherie

what ....no one is related in the house, how would it be inbred

They would be Incel inbreds, get it right Cherie you hater

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by Cherie

what ....no one is related in the house, how would it be inbred

I think Glenn's implying that they're all Aston Villa fans.

[Father Chris Mouse]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

It would be an island of inbreds no matter who was reproducing. Not sure why anyone thinks that’s a good idea.

You're saying Zelah is an inbred? It was he who was chosen to reproduce on an desert Island with a biological woman.

Strange take Glenn, something an Incel might say, idk, im not an expert on Incels like yourself.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

He’s just telling his story. Much needed in today’s climate.

People being openly transphobic without fear of consequence shows how far we have fallen.

Your last part of your post is 100% correct.

[Thotmas]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

He’s just telling his story. Much needed in today’s climate.

People being openly transphobic without fear of consequence shows how far we have fallen.

Is it transphobia or not being well versed on this.

For some people it is still as simple as if you were born a girl they might still see you as a girl/woman

[Good King Glennceslas]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

Is it transphobia or not being well versed on this.

For some people it is still as simple as if you were born a girl they might still see you as a girl/woman

What’s Caroline’s excuse? Did she know Zelah before he transitioned?

[Thotmas]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

What’s Caroline’s excuse? Did she know Zelah before he transitioned?

Zelah mentioned he transitioned so that translates to from girl to boy?

[Good King Glennceslas]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

Zelah mentioned he transitioned so that translates to from girl to boy?

But Caroline didn’t know Zelah before he transitioned. She’s only known Zelah as a male.

There’s not really anything you can say to excuse it. She dug herself a hole and just kept digging. She did wrong.

[Talulabelle]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

He’s just telling his story. Much needed in today’s climate.

People being openly transphobic without fear of consequence shows how far we have fallen.

"Transphobic - having or showing discrimination against, aversion to, or fear of transgender people" Nothing Caroline said was any of those things. It was incredibly insensitive but don't make it out to be something it isn't.

[Good King Glennceslas]

Originally Posted by Talulabelle

"Transphobic - having or showing discrimination against, aversion to, or fear of transgender people" Nothing Caroline said was any of those things. It was incredibly insensitive but don't make it out to be something it isn't.

You completely misunderstood my post.

I wasn’t talking about the house, I was talking more real life and in particular on this very forum.

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

He’s just telling his story. Much needed in today’s climate.

People being openly transphobic without fear of consequence shows how far we have fallen.

We don't have freedom of speech in this country if there's fear of consequence imo.

And I honestly don't have an issue with Zelah talking about being Transgender in itself (why wouldn't he talk about it tbf?) I'm personally more bothered that by the fact that BB seems to believe that Zelah being Transgender is a personality trait and can't be arsed to let him be a normal Housemate.

Kinda like Strictly last year when they wouldn't let Chris just be a normal contestant.

[The Grinch]

It’s not all Zelah fault. I blame the other housemates for making it bigger than it is. Also for BB only showing Zelah talking about it. I’m sure he has other words with others but we only see an hour in a 24 hour feed.

[Talulabelle]

Caroline was talking about making babies on a desert island and Nancy says 'Does it have to be a man?' (Err .... making babies on a desert island - yes!) So when Nancy chose Zelah Caroline's point (I think) was that the two of them couldn't make babies but the way she put it was really blunt and insensitive, but certainly not worth of the drama that came out of it.

[Thotmas]

Unpopular opinion: I think transgender people should accept the fact that sometimes people will slip and if they do they shouldn't use it as an opportunity to play victim.