[Cody™]

Chanelle and Ziggy's relationship has definitely been the most dramatically unsuccessful Big Brother relationship ever. Chanelle has left and it all ended on a terrible note. But who do you think is at fault? why did it not work out?

Personally, i can understand where Chanelle is coming from.. Ziggy has NOT treated her well and i think the worst thing for the relationship was when Ziggy went and bitched about Chanelle to the others (usually Carole). I think Chanelle is young and naive and simply wanted to have fun with Ziggy but all Ziggy did was complain about the relationship from the beginning.

[CassetteFinger]

Its ziggys fault its like she said you come to me yesturday saying i want to be with you on the outside the taking her in the bathroom saying this aint gonna work its not you its me hes a twat hope they chant get ziggy out.

[Wasted]

I think it's both of their faults and that is that. It didn't work out and it can't be blamed on just one of them. Ziggy was manipulating Chanelle all along, and she wanted the deals and a Posh & Becks reputation, and they both got more than they bargained for because they couldn't really stand each other in the end.

[Captain.Remy]

Both of them were weirdos and stupid, their relationship was the fakest I've never seen on Big Brother ! It was dull !

[bonnie43uk]

it was like putting a lighted match in a firework box. They were just not compatible. Ziggy was just after some female attention, he got it, and realised he'd made a big mistake. They will NOT be seeing eachother on the outside for sure.

[Cody™]

Yea and also, when Ziggy ended it the first time round, why on earth did he go back to her?? He messed with her mind and confused her. It was clear that Ziggy didn't like her but used her to satisfy his pleasures. Constantly calling it on and off was Ziggy's decisions and he had no right to take her for a ride.

He definitely ruined her experience!

[\PJ/]

Both, now she's gone get him out he's a cheesy slapper.

[Fat.Rat]

get him out!!!!!i hate him!!!!

[CassetteFinger]

now chanelle has gone all the hate shall be focused on ziggy get him out.

[GlitterEyes]

I think both are to blame for different things. I think Chanelle is very good at playing the victim and it was only a matter of time before Ziggy blew as the last few weeks he has been drained so much by her and he finally got sick of it. Ziggy like most guys was attracted to what he thought was a classy woman, but he got far more than he expected. Chanelle is great at turning situations around back at the person so she comes across as the angelic one and she rarely is angelic.

Ziggy should of broken up with her and left it as that, he has lost his balls along the way. I don't think its fair to completely blame one of them because they have both played a part in things. However Ziggy seems to get called all names under the sun because of it yet Chanelle still comes off as angelic and that annoys me. The double standards are awful.

[CassetteFinger]

^thats so untrue have you been on this forum peole slating chanelle ziggy has broken up with her twice and she dident want to live with someone who has humiliated her on national TV glad she had the balls to stick to her word and leave unlike ziggy who has asked to leave dont know how many times.

[GlitterEyes]

Originally posted by Rice_Square
^thats so untrue have you been on this forum peole slating chanelle ziggy has broken up with her twice and she dident want to live with someone who has humiliated her on national TV glad she had the balls to stick to her word and leave unlike ziggy who has asked to leave dont know how many times.

and Chanelle hasn't asked to leave just as many times? She is the queen of manipulation and a very inteligent gameplayer. She left because there was no excuses left for her to use...she blames everyone but herself. Chanelle is BRILLIANT at twisting peoples words she just doesn't listen she changes it around all the time to make her look the victim. Ziggy has been trying to get away from her for weeks telling him that the relationship made him depressed.

[Ollie!]

Both. It takes two to tango.

It's a bit sad that it ended the way it did today. It would have been much better if Chanelle had left yesterday.

I don't think Chanelle will be phoning Ziggys parents now!

[sl3ptsolong]

Originally posted by Cody™
Chanelle and Ziggy's relationship has definitely been the most dramatically unsuccessful Big Brother relationship ever. Chanelle has left and it all ended on a terrible note. But who do you think is at fault? why did it not work out?

Personally, i can understand where Chanelle is coming from.. Ziggy has NOT treated her well and i think the worst thing for the relationship was when Ziggy went and bitched about Chanelle to the others (usually Carole). I think Chanelle is young and naive and simply wanted to have fun with Ziggy but all Ziggy did was complain about the relationship from the beginning.

he didnt bitch! if you have a problem with your girlfriend you seek your friends advice and thats what he's done. he obviously likes her alot but there were parts of her like her imaturity that made him think wait....is this really what i want. which is natural. outside i can see them being together because they will have there own space. their relationship in my eyes is longer than normal people go out on dates for years lol its only then when you live together you find out the wee bits of someone that will annoy you.

[bighead]

it is the followings fault:

carole: she dorve a wedge between them and made ziggy doubt himself
charley: made channelle feel jealous and portayed her as a bunny boiler
ziggy he is a complete bartsad

[Wasted]

Originally posted by GlitterEyes
I think both are to blame for different things. I think Chanelle is very good at playing the victim and it was only a matter of time before Ziggy blew as the last few weeks he has been drained so much by her and he finally got sick of it. Ziggy like most guys was attracted to what he thought was a classy woman, but he got far more than he expected. Chanelle is great at turning situations around back at the person so she comes across as the angelic one and she rarely is angelic.

Ziggy should of broken up with her and left it as that, he has lost his balls along the way. I don't think its fair to completely blame one of them because they have both played a part in things. However Ziggy seems to get called all names under the sun because of it yet Chanelle still comes off as angelic and that annoys me. The double standards are awful.

Absolutely spot on!

[CassetteFinger]

Originally posted by GlitterEyes

and Chanelle hasn't asked to leave just as many times? She is the queen of manipulation and a very inteligent gameplayer. She left because there was no excuses left for her to use...she blames everyone but herself. Chanelle is BRILLIANT at twisting peoples words she just doesn't listen she changes it around all the time to make her look the victim. Ziggy has been trying to get away from her for weeks telling him that the relationship made him depressed.

UMMMMMM hello she has left god

[Cody™]

Originally posted by sl3ptsolong

he didnt bitch! if you have a problem with your girlfriend you seek your friends advice and thats what he's done. he obviously likes her alot but there were parts of her like her imaturity that made him think wait....is this really what i want. which is natural. outside i can see them being together because they will have there own space. their relationship in my eyes is longer than normal people go out on dates for years lol its only then when you live together you find out the wee bits of someone that will annoy you.

Yea but you cannot do that in that house. People do talk to friends about it but in the situation theyre all in, it was best for them both to sort things out between themselves. Carole disliked Chanelle and this was the perfect opportunity for Carole to influence Ziggy's thoughts on Chanelle. He doubted his role in the relationship and was made to believe he is the one who will look silly on television. Carole didnt behave like a friend should and her advice was not in any way going to help the relationship.

[DeCi]

used to like chanelle but these last 3 weeks have been seriously petty and immature on her part.

Ziggy said to her jus last night 'you love attention, and i dont like that in a person' .....and then what did she do all day ........!!!?????? stage a big leaving/re-entering drama and literally milked her leaving to the max.....getting everyone to foucus on her..


ziggy could see right through her

[canada21]

I think its both there faults and leave it at that. They are both to blame from Ziggy messing with her head from the start to Chanelle throwing full blown tantrums that shake most of western europe. I think they both genuinely liked each other throughout the relationship but Ziggy didn't want her immature baggage and Chanelle didn't want to change. It's just two people that tried but couldn't make it work no matter how much or how little effort they put into it. You can't put the blame on one person its too complicated a relationship to say that.

[eliza26]

I'm not really a Ziggy fan, but I think the only mistake he made was thinking that Chanellle was mature enough to handle a relationship and all that comes with it including a break-up.

Yes she was young, but she was smart enough to play upon Ziggy's fear of being repudiated by the public, mentioning over and over again how he made her look like a fool on television and such, complete blackmail. If anything she is at fault as she should not have gone back to him after being dumped the first time. She made herself look like a fool, sorry for the cliche, but people treat you the way you let them treat you. In the end he was with her only out of guilt or fear of how it would affect his reputation.

She did not even let the poor guy breath, they all went in to have good time they say, not be knee-deep in some sappy novella.

I feel bad for Ziggy right now, he truly is a shadow of his former self totally broke down.

The fact that Chanelle walked because of some non-relationship show what she's made of, i.e. nothing.

[Sticks]

We are all collectively guilty, as we made a market for this programme to continue after BB2, (which a C4 exec before it aired said would be the last one). If there had been no BB then this would not have happened.

If we had voted out Chanelle instead of Laura then the legend of Chiggy could have lived on.

[ryanaldinho10]

100% percent Chanelle's fault, that whiny voice is enough to drive anyone up the wall, she would constantly storm off like a brat, when Ziggy said something that she took in the wrong way.

PA-THETIC!

Ziggy 2 win.

...or Brian

[natjake2504]

ziggy omg

[Barbie]

it was both their faults they both were in the wrong at sometime but it must be hard to have a relationship in there. imagine you started dating somebody an straight away you are stuck in a house 24/7 with them