[Ann]

yes I heard about this on Breakfast News this morning they are thinking on closing down a Disabled Home somewhere in Nottingham. what do you lot think to this now me myself I think its awful because they did say that some of the residents have lived there almost 30 years now I feel sorry for them too as on the News the residents looked very upset about it too.So what do you think?

[easypeasy]

I think disabled people are just seen as a burden by the powers that be, and that the people that care for them are being played for mugs. Theres no profit in prolonging severely disabled peoples lives, its not like they pay taxes. So the councils make these decisions and hope no one notices, or people are so full of apathy they dont protest.
Ann, maybe you should register your disgust with your local council over this.

[Ann]

Thank you easypeasy I will look into that one

[bananarama]

Typical of the morons that run local authorities anywhere any place.. I must not get started about local polititions as they are my pet hate... Protest by all means. But don't hold much hope of turning a decision made by local authorities or should I say local dictatorships.....

[KissyLittleMissy]

Originally posted by Ann
yes I heard about this on Breakfast News this morning they are thinking on closing down a Disabled Home somewhere in Nottingham. what do you lot think to this now me myself I think its awful because they did say that some of the residents have lived there almost 30 years now I feel sorry for them too as on the News the residents looked very upset about it too.So what do you think?

well they arent goin to throw them out on the street are they? they will close a home down and re-place them all somewhere else, so thats okay ai'nt it

[bananarama]

Originally posted by KissyLittleMissy

well they arent goin to throw them out on the street are they? they will close a home down and re-place them all somewhere else, so thats okay ai'nt it

No. It's not ok to disrupt people from what is there home. People who have formed friendships and companionship will almost certainly be split up. Being cruelly taken from secure surroundings is cruel and flies in the face of civilised human rights....Sounds like to me you should get a job with your local authority........You will fit in well....

[Sunny_01]

closing homes for anyone is disruptive and cruel. Like bananarama said they will be secure where they live just now.

The moving of people with learning disabilities is just awful, they are so dependent on their homes and the staff that provide them with support, they are often sent into community group homes to prepare them for independent living which many of them are just not equipped for which finds them getting moved on and one.

[KissyLittleMissy]

Originally posted by bananarama

No. It's not ok to disrupt people from what is there home. People who have formed friendships and companionship will almost certainly be split up. Being cruelly taken from secure surroundings is cruel and flies in the face of civilised human rights....Sounds like to me you should get a job with your local authority........You will fit in well....

i dont want to work in a local authority, its not me at all. i dont want this home to close but if it has to then it has to. but there is still life beyond one home closing and i understand from what you say that many friendships which have been made at that home will end when many of those penshioners get moved bout but what can be done? it is like a family moving to another area and having to move schools its just a way of a shame i know

[bananarama]

Originally posted by KissyLittleMissy

i dont want to work in a local authority, its not me at all. i dont want this home to close but if it has to then it has to. but there is still life beyond one home closing and i understand from what you say that many friendships which have been made at that home will end when many of those penshioners get moved bout but what can be done? it is like a family moving to another area and having to move schools its just a way of a shame i know

That's a cold blooded viewpoint. Families generally move because they want to rather than have to. Disabled people have been dealt a rough card in life enough without some money squandering local authority bully boys trashing lives of those that cannot fight back.

People like YOU and me should stand up for a humanity aproach to the disabled and not just say if it has to be it has to be. That is allowing vunerable people to be walked all over by polititions who's prime interest is POWER and stuff the weakest in our society.

Remember this. Today you are young. Eventually you will be old and possibly disabled and vunerable yourself. When that day comes I gaurantee you will regret with every bone of your body the attitude you have today while you are young and indifferent to the suffering of others.....

[KissyLittleMissy]

Originally posted by bananarama

That's a cold blooded viewpoint. Families generally move because they want to rather than have to. Disabled people have been dealt a rough card in life enough without some money squandering local authority bully boys trashing lives of those that cannot fight back.

People like YOU and me should stand up for a humanity aproach to the disabled and not just say if it has to be it has to be. That is allowing vunerable people to be walked all over by polititions who's prime interest is POWER and stuff the weakest in our society.

Remember this. Today you are young. Eventually you will be old and possibly disabled and vunerable yourself. When that day comes I gaurantee you will regret with every bone of your body the attitude you have today while you are young and indifferent to the suffering of others.....

its not a coldblooded viewpoint i dont want those people to be chucked out of their home but if they are then that is tough tooti and thats a shame local authoritys do make bad desicions some times and this is a bad one but these old people will get used to new surroundings and live with it for the little time they have left which is sad. also the old people might not have to move to far perhaps the local authority will take evrything into consideration who knows it will all work out somehow im sure, dont be so bitter towards my views bananarama, im only giving you my opinion on things

i love the way you say YOU in big letters like i need some lesson in carng or summin - i dont!! also politicians can lose loads of votes if they treat the elderly/disabled in a bad way and tossing them out of their home isnt right like you say but its happenin right id rather say that they have a better chance if they realise that the homes closing and get ready for another home and make some new friends its like the example of fams movin house and kids having to make new friends in a new school its exactly the same ai'nt it

you expect me to think bout bein old and disabled at 19 right what 19 year old ever thinks of that i dont think bout it but i still care bout other older people im not heartless ya know. i do realise what they are goin through but i dont go on bout it as much as other people do thats all

[Jack_Crossitt]

Originally posted by bananarama

That's a cold blooded viewpoint. Families generally move because they want to rather than have to. Disabled people have been dealt a rough card in life enough without some money squandering local authority bully boys trashing lives of those that cannot fight back.

People like YOU and me should stand up for a humanity aproach to the disabled and not just say if it has to be it has to be. That is allowing vunerable people to be walked all over by polititions who's prime interest is POWER and stuff the weakest in our society.

Remember this. Today you are young. Eventually you will be old and possibly disabled and vunerable yourself. When that day comes I gaurantee you will regret with every bone of your body the attitude you have today while you are young and indifferent to the suffering of others.....

Sorry to step into this debate like this, but I think it is necessary. My sister Sandra - KissyLittleMissy was just pointing out that local authorities who are thinking of closing this disabled home - will make this decision with the consideration of all the disabled residents at heart. Nobody there will be forced to go anywhere they don't want to go. Each and every disabled person will have the choice between a few different homes of their choice - I would have thought so? I do understand that many may have to travel further to see their disabled mother, father, brother, sister and so fourth - and that is indeed unfortunite. The local authorities should think about these things before dwelling about the finances, but we have seen this before many times and it is really a shame. I personally would love to see all those residents within that home - regardless of age or severity of their disability, stay exactly where they are. But authorities don't really thing about things like this and they should do.

I also have to agree with my sisters point about being 19 years old and not thinking too much about being old or disabled. It is exactly what the younger generation generally puts to one side and chooses instead to think about more positive thoughts. We are all aware that when we get old that the chances of ending up in one of these homes is very possible. I must also say that our bodies may break down in some way and we may become disabled too. Not a nice thought or one which I myself wants to think about either - but we nearly all have our mums and dads around, grans and grandads, so in our life-time we shall experience what it is like to see someone older than ourself go through the misery of living in one of those homes and being old or disabled or both and trying to lead some kind of quality of life - which for many is enjoyable. I can understand that many won't wish to leave that particular environment as they just get used to meeting the same people every day, including the staff at the home, who may lose their jobs also and move onto other things. There is nothing positive which can come from this and it would be better to keep the home going.

But Kissy, I don't agree with all your viewpoints either or your use of smilies - so I have just edited a couple to save your skin darling. Bananarama is an older member - show some respect to her and others, or my computer will be free from KissyLittleMissy!!

[bananarama]

Originally posted by Jack_Crossitt

Sorry to step into this debate like this, but I think it is necessary. My sister Sandra - KissyLittleMissy was just pointing out that local authorities who are thinking of closing this disabled home - will make this decision with the consideration of all the disabled residents at heart. Nobody there will be forced to go anywhere they don't want to go. Each and every disabled person will have the choice between a few different homes of their choice - I would have thought so? I do understand that many may have to travel further to see their disabled mother, father, brother, sister and so fourth - and that is indeed unfortunite. The local authorities should think about these things before dwelling about the finances, but we have seen this before many times and it is really a shame. I personally would love to see all those residents within that home - regardless of age or severity of their disability, stay exactly where they are. But authorities don't really thing about things like this and they should do.

I also have to agree with my sisters point about being 19 years old and not thinking too much about being old or disabled. It is exactly what the younger generation generally puts to one side and chooses instead to think about more positive thoughts. We are all aware that when we get old that the chances of ending up in one of these homes is very possible. I must also say that our bodies may break down in some way and we may become disabled too. Not a nice thought or one which I myself wants to think about either - but we nearly all have our mums and dads around, grans and grandads, so in our life-time we shall experience what it is like to see someone older than ourself go through the misery of living in one of those homes and being old or disabled or both and trying to lead some kind of quality of life - which for many is enjoyable. I can understand that many won't wish to leave that particular environment as they just get used to meeting the same people every day, including the staff at the home, who may lose their jobs also and move onto other things. There is nothing positive which can come from this and it would be better to keep the home going.

But Kissy, I don't agree with all your viewpoints either or your use of smilies - so I have just edited a couple to save your skin darling. Bananarama is an older member - show some respect to her and others, or my computer will be free from KissyLittleMissy!!

I am sorry but age is not an excuse for cold blooded indifference. She is more than old enough to know better. If a home is closed they will have little choice. They will lose contact and be seperated with friend long standing.
Saying such is just tough and brushing it off as "I should not understand because I am just 19" is I have to say a view point that beggars belief.....

[KissyLittleMissy]

Originally posted by bananarama

I am sorry but age is not an excuse for cold blooded indifference. She is more than old enough to know better. If a home is closed they will have little choice. They will lose contact and be seperated with friend long standing.
Saying such is just tough and brushing it off as "I should not understand because I am just 19" is I have to say a view point that beggars belief.....

im not bothered what opinion you have of my opinion eithetr of you, i said what i said in this discussion and you will have to accept that. soz for my bad use of smilies but for my opinions well that is my right okays

[Sunny_01]

I hate that these people are being moved from their homes. They will be re-homed but when someone has a learning disability it is very difficult for them to understand and accept why they have to move. It causes them no end of upset and confusion which can manifest itself in awful ways. Many will self harm, some will withdraw others will become violent. Yes some will just move and appear to be fine with it but they will be as affected as you or I if we were told we had to move.

As for being given choices about where to go! I doubt that, there are such limited places already that they will be sent where there is a bed for them, often to inappropraite placements.

This just shows how the people who run our country disregard the feelings of people, the needs of those who are being cared for and the rights of those people.