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Old 22-09-2008, 08:34 PM #1
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[/i]By Tracey Emmin[/i]

A little about the artist and the work:
"Tracey Emin shows us her own bed, in all its embarrassing glory. Empty booze bottles, fag butts, stained sheets, worn panties: the bloody aftermath of a nervous breakdown. By presenting her bed as art, Tracey Emin shares her most personal space, revealing she’s as insecure and imperfect as the rest of the world."

This piece of art sold for £150,000!


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Is this art? What makes this so good? Does it mean anything to you or is it just a messy bed?
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Thats not art! Anyone could make their bed messy.
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can i just ask who would buy that for £150,000

it's not art to me

it might be to some people though
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blimey if thats all it takes to make £150,000 then i am selling mine nope i dont see that as art
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Absolutley.

Art is self expression, you just have to look for the connotations and denotations. Everything around us is inspired by art.
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This topic has completey baffled me, my tutor told me to go away and look at this exhibition but I cant help but think its not art... check out all the thought that went into this piece:

http://www.egs.edu/faculty/emin/emin...ns-my-bed.html
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Sorry no to correct myself... art is whatever you make of it, but to me its not art.
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It's not art, its ****.
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Absolutley.

Art is self expression, you just have to look for the connotations and denotations. Everything around us is inspired by art.
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I think its art.. I dont know why. I just can see why someone would say its art. its different. unique and thought through. thats art right?
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if thats art......... I'm a super model called clive
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Its art.

Anything can be passed off as art these days as ridiculous as it might be
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Tom I actually would buy that.
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Its art.

Anything can be passed off as art these days as ridiculous as it might be
Now that in comparrison to the OP is quite classy, hmmmm how much do you want for it Tom?
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Well it is art, whether any of you like it or not - it is a piece done by a very respected artist & it's a fairly well known piece of art. It's not very accessible, perhaps, which is why so many people are dubious. What's important to realize is that it's a piece of conceptual art, so the bed itself is not as important as the concept & thought process behind it.
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Well it is art, whether any of you like it or not - it is a piece done by a very respected artist & it's a fairly well known piece of art. It's not very accessible, perhaps, which is why so many people are dubious. What's important to realize is that it's a piece of conceptual art, so the bed itself is not as important as the concept & thought process behind it.
Hit the nail on the head there.
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Sorry guys I have been researching on this piece all night and it seems the real version would make more sense! As disgusting as it sounds the real version was filled with condoms, alcohol, stained yellow sheets bloody knickers and empty cigarrette boxes, she left it exactly the same from when she had stayed in it for several days after suicidal houghts after relationship problems...

That makes more sense, as much as I would really not want too see it, it shows a womans complete low point without filters... need to stop being so Naive and research these things first lol. But that actual photo is rubbish, I would much rather the un filtered picture showing the true pain!
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I think its art..but i wouldnt pay 150,00£ for it
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Sorry guys I have been researching on this piece all night and it seems the real version would make more sense! As disgusting as it sounds the real version was filled with condoms, alcohol, stained yellow sheets bl***y knickers and empty cigarrette boxes, she left it exactly the same from when she had stayed in it for several days after suicidal houghts after relationship problems...

That makes more sense, as much as I would really not want too see it, it shows a womans complete low point without filters... need to stop being so Naive and research these things first lol. But that actual photo is rubbish, I would much rather the un filtered picture showing the true pain!
Thats made me love it even more.
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I hate this type of art, people who claim its art and get paid a ridcouls amount of money for it. Anyone can do that more alless, its not real talent;
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It is definitely art. Art is your inner most thoughts and feelings expressed in the world around you, and this is what she has done. I think it's magnificent. I wouldn't pay £150,000 for it though. That's just ridiculous. lol.
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Well it is art, whether any of you like it or not - it is a piece done by a very respected artist & it's a fairly well known piece of art. It's not very accessible, perhaps, which is why so many people are dubious. What's important to realize is that it's a piece of conceptual art, so the bed itself is not as important as the concept & thought process behind it.
LOL, sorry but this is a modern day example of the old story "The King with no clothes on" its just taken the tate modern or whatever so called "art gallery" this thing happens to be in to actually listen to the littel boy saying...

"you know, the King is actually naked"

I always wonder what if someone happened to walk in a smear pizza on the wall of one of these trendy galleries and how long it would be before most of the smarmy arty folks who stroll round parousing this cr*p would notice it is indeed just a piece of smeared pizza, and not an exhibit

Oh, and I would want paying much more than £150,000 to take it out to the bin for em too
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Well it is art, whether any of you like it or not - it is a piece done by a very respected artist & it's a fairly well known piece of art. It's not very accessible, perhaps, which is why so many people are dubious. What's important to realize is that it's a piece of conceptual art, so the bed itself is not as important as the concept & thought process behind it.
LOL, sorry but this is a modern day example of the old story "The King with no clothes on" its just taken the tate modern or whatever so called "art gallery" this thing happens to be in to actually listen to the littel boy saying...

"you know, the King is actually naked"

I always wonder what if someone happened to walk in a smear pizza on the wall of one of these trendy galleries and how long it would be before most of the smarmy arty folks who stroll round parousing this cr*p would notice it is indeed just a piece of smeared pizza, and not an exhibit

Oh, and I would want paying much more than £150,000 to take it out to the bin for em too
It is art.

Its like saying some African dumming isn't music because there is no tune.

You just need to look closely at the meaning and understand your interpretation of what its trying to communicate.
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It is art in my opinion, and i actually quite like it for some reason. Art is anything that expresses a feeling in my opinion, and this certainly does.
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Well it is art, whether any of you like it or not - it is a piece done by a very respected artist & it's a fairly well known piece of art. It's not very accessible, perhaps, which is why so many people are dubious. What's important to realize is that it's a piece of conceptual art, so the bed itself is not as important as the concept & thought process behind it.
LOL, sorry but this is a modern day example of the old story "The King with no clothes on" its just taken the tate modern or whatever so called "art gallery" this thing happens to be in to actually listen to the littel boy saying...

"you know, the King is actually naked"

I always wonder what if someone happened to walk in a smear pizza on the wall of one of these trendy galleries and how long it would be before most of the smarmy arty folks who stroll round parousing this cr*p would notice it is indeed just a piece of smeared pizza, and not an exhibit

Oh, and I would want paying much more than £150,000 to take it out to the bin for em too
It is art.

Its like saying some African dumming isn't music because there is no tune.

You just need to look closely at the meaning and understand your interpretation of what its trying to communicate.
Well blow me down, I could take the same photo, almost every morning of my own daughters bedroom and become a multi millionaire by next wednesday afternoon.
Thanks for the idea, why i never thought of that before god only knows ......................
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