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Old 01-08-2024, 02:07 PM #51
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Not wiki, suddenly being allowed as a reliable source from tibbs users...amazing...



What if she was trans @Ammi, what then? What would be your view on that.
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Born in a small rural village with a very small inverted penis and wrongly sexed as a female at birth (happens in other cases) - he is a man and that is why he constantly gets banned for having normal male levels of testosterone. Had he been born in better medical circumstances that would not have happened.
So, a man then.
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that is in her past now, she is now a woman

okay i do have to admit she has some advantages over the other women but honestly all these athletes want extra challenges in their respective sport events



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Default Female Olympic Boxer Hit by "Man" Gets a Broken Nose

4 of these ‘people’ competed in yesterday’s women’s judo finals ‘

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Because transphobes let nothing get in their way of of their bigotry, even facts

Another big win for the ‘we can always tell’ crew
They both have XY chromosomes as evidenced by science at the World Champs, of course you know best about everything apparently
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…yeah, this…I wiki’d her and her early/childhood life is that she was born in a rural village to parents that didn’t approve of boxing for girls and prevented her from practising the sport at that time…so she’s female born is what it appears to be…
with XY chromosomes which apparently we can just ignore, because after all as long as a gold medal is incoming it doesn't really matter if women get battered?
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with XY chromosomes which apparently we can just ignore, because after all as long as a gold medal is incoming it doesn't really matter if women get battered?
…no we can’t ignore it as to the eligibility being assessed for any athlete…I know that you know that’s not what I in any way stated or inferred/…nor that ‘it doesn’t really matter if women get battered…’…

…I’m confused as well because she was convincingly beaten in 2020 Olympics so doesn’t seem to be an ‘advantaged athlete’ from the information I can find atm…
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…no we can’t ignore it as to the eligibility being assessed for any athlete…I know that you know that’s not what I in any way stated or inferred/…nor that ‘it doesn’t really matter if women get battered…’…

…I’m confused as well because she was convincingly beaten in 2020 Olympics so doesn’t seem to be an ‘advantaged athlete’ from the information I can find atm…
Think I just heard some of the female boxers wont fight her, and what is more concerning is the IOC will take what is on a persons passport as a given as to their gender which seems a very soft approach
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i haven't watched the olympics since the Steve Ovett vs Seb Coe days
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…no we can’t ignore it as to the eligibility being assessed for any athlete…I know that you know that’s not what I in any way stated or inferred/…nor that ‘it doesn’t really matter if women get battered…’…

…I’m confused as well because she was convincingly beaten in 2020 Olympics so doesn’t seem to be an ‘advantaged athlete’ from the information I can find atm…

Wasn’t “she” banned from competing last year for failing some tests or am I mistaken


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i haven't watched the olympics since the Steve Ovett vs Seb Coe days

I actually lost all faith in them after the Ben Johnson debacle!!


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Giorgia Meloni, the Italian prime minister, says the Olympic boxing bout between Algeria’s Imane Khelif and Italy’s Angela Carini was “not an even contest”.

The bout was hugely controversial because Khelif has previously been thrown out of women’s boxing competitions owing to her male XY chromosomes. She was permitted to fight at the Olympics, however, because the International Olympic Committee, which governs Olympic sports, does not follow the same rules as the International Boxing Association.

When Khelif met Carini in their first-round welterweight contest on Thursday morning the fight lasted just 46 seconds before Carini withdrew with a suspected broken nose. The fight has heightened the controversy about athletes with abnormally high testosterone levels or other male characteristics being allowed to compete in women’s sporting categories.
Speaking after the bout, Meloni said: “I have been trying to explain for years that, when taken to the extreme, some theses risk impacting women’s rights.

“I think that athletes who have male genetic characteristics should not be admitted to women’s competitions. Not because we want to discriminate against anyone, but in order to protect the right of female athletes to be able to compete on equal terms”

The Italian PM added: “I regret it [Carini’s withdrawal] even more. I was emotional yesterday when she wrote ‘I will fight’ because the dedication, the head, the character, surely also play a role in these things.

Carini said that she abandoned the bout because she could tell after one punch that she was outpowered.

“I got into the ring to fight,” said the 25-year-old from Naples. “I didn’t give up, but one punch hurt too much and so I said, ‘Enough, I’m going out with my head held high.’”

Her coach, Emanuele Renzini, stressed that quitting the bout was not planned in advance. “It would have been easier not to show up, because all of Italy had been asking her not to fight for days,” Renzini said.

“But Angela was motivated and wanted to do it. Of course when she met her opponent at the draw, she said ‘it’s not fair’. But there was no premeditation here today.

“She quit after taking one punch, she told me she didn’t feel she could fight. I tried to tell her to at least get to the end of the first round so we would fight, but she wouldn’t.”

Khelif is due to compete again in the quarter-finals on Saturday afternoon. Another boxer who has previously failed gender eligibility test, Chinese Taipei’s Lin Yu-ting, will make her Paris Olympics debut on Friday in the featherweight category.

Ministers hit out at Games criteria

The participation of Khelif and Lin was controversial even before Thursday’s knockout. The captain of the Australian boxing team said it was “incredibly dangerous” while one of Khelif’s previous opponents said she was simply grateful she had escaped from the ring safely.

Eugenia Roccella, Italy’s family and equal opportunities minister, said: “It is surprising that there are no certain, strict, uniform criteria at the international level, and that there can be a suspicion, and far more than a suspicion, of an unfair and potentially dangerous contest for one of the contenders at the Olympics, an event that symbolises sporting fairness”.
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a woman with masculine traits, nothing out of the ordinary tbh, some women are less girly than others
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a woman with masculine traits, nothing out of the ordinary tbh, some women are less girly than others
When was the last time you spoke to a woman face to face who wasnt your mum?
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So she’s actually a woman? Not a man?
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Never mind eh

No Alf
That other Boxer is still a man
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[“I think that athletes who have male genetic
characteristics should not be admitted to
women’s competitions.
Not because we want to discriminate against
anyone, but in order to protect the right of
female athletes to be able to compete on equal terms”]


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The UN’s special rapporteur on violence against women and girls (VAWG) has condemned the decision to allow Imane Khelif to compete in women’s boxing at the Olympics, with MPs and JK Rowling among other critics.

It comes after Italian boxer Angela Carini’s women’s 66kg clash with the Algerian boxer was abandoned after just 46 seconds.

The build-up to the fight was marred by controversy following the inclusion of Khelif, who was one of two athletes cleared to compete in the women’s boxing after being disqualified from last year’s women’s world boxing championships in New Delhi for failing to meet the necessary gender eligibility criteria.

Reem Alsalem, the UN’s special rapporteur on VAWG, said Carini “rightly followed her instincts and prioritised her physical safety, but she and other female athletes should not have been exposed to this physical and psychological violence based on their sex”
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So she’s actually a woman? Not a man?
Born a physical woman, she has naturally higher testosterone levels, doesn’t matter to transphobes though
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On Thursday, the IOC’s spokesman Mark Adams was asked about the controversy. “I repeat that all the competitors comply with the eligibility rules,” he said. “But what I would say is that this involves real people. And, by the way, this is not a transgender issue. I should make this absolutely clear.”


Wow the bigots look silly now huh
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[The build-up to the fight was marred by controversy
following the inclusion of Khelif,
who was one of two athletes cleared to compete
in the women’s boxing after being
disqualified from last year’s women’s
world boxing championships in New Delhi
for failing to meet the necessary gender
eligibility criteria.]


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enjoying the distress of a woman he’s just punched in the head, and whose
life’s ambition he’s just shattered.

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