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Violent Antifa criminals have laid siege to the ICE detention center in Portland, Oregon, for over 100 days. (Oct 1st)
https://nypost.com/2025/10/01/us-new...leaning-it-up/

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Violent Antifa criminals have laid siege to the ICE detention center in Portland, Oregon, for over 100 days.

Every night the encampment of wackos — some dressed as unicorns or chickens — blast loud music, engage in anti-government chants over loudspeakers and megaphones, and when they violently clash with law enforcement officers, it reverberates around the neighborhood.

Since the protest started on June 2, neighbor Cloud Elvengrail has barely slept. Assaulted and bullied by the Antifa goons, she describes the area as a “war zone” and “terrifying.”

On paper, she’s exactly the type of person the mob claims to stand up for: a disabled African American woman living in a low-income, subsidized apartment complex next to the ICE facility.
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Portland Police arrested the conservative influencer Nick Sortor as they moved in on disorder at a protest outside an Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) facility in the Oregon city.
https://apnews.com/article/nick-sort...fc1961c531e45a

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PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) — Five years after protests roiled Portland, Oregon, the city known for its history of civil disobedience is again at the center of a political maelstrom as it braces for the arrival of federal troops being deployed by President Donald Trump.

Months of demonstrations outside Portland’s immigration detention facility have escalated since Trump said last week he was sending federal troops to the city, which he described as “War ravaged.” Police made a few arrests late Thursday after fights broke out in the crowd, including of conservative influencer Nick Sortor on a disorderly conduct charge.

On Friday, Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem said the agency would send additional federal agents and the Justice Department was launching a civil rights investigation into the circumstances surrounding Sortor’s arrest, and whether the Portland Police Bureau engages in viewpoint discrimination.
Quick highlight clip from tonight's feed to show how these events look and feel:


It looks like an after school gathering with rap music in a very GTA-ish environment, Cookie Monster walking around in a friendly/menacing(?) manner, someone with a dog squeaky toy occasionally and tonight featured a Charlie Kirk supporter on a megaphone barking at the guy with the boombox....

Other information that explains who some of these people are:

Antifa FAQs: Where Did Antifa Come From?
https://capitalresearch.org/article/antifa-faqs-part-2/

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Antifa’s roots are primarily found in interwar Europe, especially within the tumultuous jockeying among the fascist, communist, and democratic political factions trying to fill the vacuum that was Weimar Germany in the early 1930s. Modern American Antifa traces its organizational lineage to the 1980s, and at least some of its ideological legacy to the various radical-left movements of the 1960s and 1970s.

The ideological antecedents of Antifa stretch back into the 19th century, and concerted anti-fascism emerged more or less contemporaneously with fascism in 1920s Italy. But the true spiritual ancestor of today’s Antifa was the far-left Antifaschistische Aktion, founded and controlled by the Communist Party of Germany in the last years of the Weimar Republic. The symbolism and tactics of this organization remain readily observable among many modern Antifa groups.

Although often remembered as Nazi fighters—and they certainly were that, too—Antifaschistische Aktion was in truth more deliberately employed against social democrats. To the Stalinist-aligned Communist Party of Germany, the Social Democratic Party was the real enemy (they called them “social fascists”) and Hitler’s Nazis were the lesser evil, at least for the time being. Indeed, Antifaschistische Aktion was originally formed as a response to—and actively sought to undermine—a group called the Iron Front, which was a last-ditch alliance of German democrats desperately trying to defend the Weimar Republic against the twin totalitarian threats of communism and fascism.

In the United States, organized Antifa can be traced back to the 1980s, specifically to a group originating in Minneapolis called Anti-Racist Action. Mark Bray, author of Antifa: The Anti-Fascist Handbook, explains how Anti-Racist Action took inspiration not only from existing European Antifa groups, but also from a variety of American radical-left formations. He points to the John Brown Anti-Klan Committee—formed by former members of domestic terrorist groups like the Weather Underground and the May 19th Communist Organization—as well as the Black Panthers and the Black Liberation Army as examples. Bray writes that “it is crucial to situate [Anti-Racist Action] within a much longer and deeper struggle against a wide variety of Klansmen, hooded or otherwise.”

Rose City Antifa was established in 2007 by former Anti-Racist Action members, and the Torch Network was “born out of” Anti-Racist Action in 2013. This was still before the word “Antifa” was familiar to most Americans. It would remain that way until roughly 2017, when it exploded into public consciousness to such a degree that the Oxford Dictionaries included it on its shortlist of finalists for Word of the Year. That year, a series of very public confrontations between Antifa and those whom they opposed—most notably the assortment of neo-Nazis and other white supremacists at the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville—drew unprecedented attention to the movement.


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Rose City Antifa was formed in 2007 to coordinate opposition to a music festival that was planned to be held near Portland by neo-Nazis associated with White Aryan Resistance.[3][9] According to one of its leaders, the group concentrates on "outing" people whom they believe to be neo-Nazis.[10] According to Alexander Reid Ross, the author of the book Against the Fascist Creep, Rose City Antifa grew out of the group Anti-Racist Action (ARA) which first appeared in 1987. Through Rose City Antifa, "the European and American models were sort of synthesized and the current model of Antifa in the US was developed".[11]
Someone goes to these and livestreams them:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijPWnhzf8qE
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What the hell... this was found in Manchester... (I don't want to create another thread for this lol)...


Timestamp @6:00 — saves you 6 minutes of someone going oooh an abandoned building...
S: https://youtu.be/Cn0Fc1xg9R0?si=mq7LfKwmFsECjYMV&t=371

It's crazy interesting to me. They walk in and it's like hobo artist alley run by cyberpunk people...

(Ignore the God awful clickbaity thumbnail)
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It would probably turn the streets into rainbow with all the arts and crafts people carrying random supplies. These people are very artsy.
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From the Manchester, UK Antifa location:

It's like a scene out of a grunge-y 80s movie when you find the warehouse with all the criminals doing their favorite things...

























Person Unknown Festival:
https://www.instagram.com/pufestival/




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lol... the description... it reads so innocuous, but then it's not false advertising. There are all those things...

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Fox News clip, but it has a guy who grew up in Seattle and had joined similar groups in 9th grade doing their recruiting. Portland is about 2 hrs from Portland and both have concentrations of these politics there so it's not surprising. So yeah, just kinda proves it's something young people are being exposed to earlier on and getting pulled into....

He was asked if "Violence was a core mission of the group?"... he paused and said "At that age, yes, it was a perk". I don't like how much the host leads with questions after this point. I get they have to keep it short, but yeah...



He must've been out of it for a while because his voice is coming through without a filter and his eyes are easy enough to read. I think if he were current he would be pretty easy to identify...
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US Border Patrol agents shoot armed woman in Chicago after being ‘boxed in’ by cars
https://nypost.com/2025/10/04/us-new...ed-in-by-cars/

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U.S. Border Patrol agents shot an armed woman in Chicago Saturday after an angry mob tried to attack the law enforcement officers.

The group of agents were conducting their routine patrol near 39th Place and South Kedzie Avenue in the city’s South Side “when they were attacked and rammed by vehicles and boxed in by 10 cars,” the Department of Homeland Security said.

“The officers exited their trapped vehicle, when a suspect tried to run them over, forcing the officers to fire defensively,” according to DHS, which called the incident “an evolving situation” and noted FBI agents were currently on the scene.

The suspect, who is a U.S. citizen, was armed with a semi-automatic weapon, department spokeswoman Tricia McLaughlin said.

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We're starting to see some old school sh** (historical power plays between State and Federal). State-level sovereignty comes into play after a point and they will be at the center when it comes to reshaping domestic politics within/across the US. We'll see what happens with the courts, but it's certainly politically provocative he's grabbing CA troops to send straight into OR...

(Again, all the result of Congress forfeiting their duties )

Trump defies federal court, sends 300 California National Guard troops to Portland, Oregon: ‘On their way there now’
https://nypost.com/2025/10/05/us-new...rtland-oregon/

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President Trump on Sunday deployed 300 California National Guard troops to Portland, Oregon defying a federal order blocking the move – as Golden State Gov. Gavin Newsom vowed to sue in response.

“After a federal court blocked his attempt to federalize the Oregon National Guard, Donald Trump is deploying 300 California National Guard personnel into Oregon,” Newson said in a post on X, later calling the order “un-American.”

“They are on their way there now. We are taking this fight back to court. The public cannot stay silent in the face of such reckless and authoritarian conduct by the President of the United States.”

Newsom’s fiery threat comes hours after a federal judge temporarily halted the Trump administration from sending 200 Oregon National Guard troops to the “war ravaged” city that has been under siege by anti-ICE agitators for more than 100 straight days.
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Tonight's live feed for the Portland ICE facility:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoljCLf7onQ

Cars are honking and woo-ing for helicopters now. More people coming in.



They're telling ICE officers on the roof, "You could just quit your job!"
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Yes, they were asking him for his comment on important topics and he was more interested in checking if the fuzzy bits were edible.
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i mean ICE taking on illegal migrants okay, but this is going way too far now


people should have the right to protest, otherwise it no longer is a democracy




and tbh ICE deporting homeless people is a no go, if Trump wants there to be lesser homeless people, maybe build more homes, is that an idea?
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Nick Sortor was assaulted. I have opinions about this because I saw this live...



While this was going on, the other guy who had gotten picked up the other day for screaming at the boom box man whose name is "Tommy" I believe decked one of the Antifa people and knocked them completely out.

Nick Sortor then is saying well, it's not right they can't walk a public sidewalk and they get to take it over... his logic "We don't have a country even if you can't even walk down a sidewalk"..

Right now they're setting up to march the streets through the public sidewalk which is definitely not going to inflame things. Meanwhile another person is screaming "Portland is not a warzone!"... so I guess another point they're possibly trying to make is that if they can't march through the sidewalk and are attacked, then it may actually prove the point...

Edit: And now they're all on the other side of the street merging with the other crowd and some are breaking out the weed....
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Listening/watching the live feed on and off and here's a summary:

It's cartoon characters mixed in with people marching with flags up and down the road. People are picking fights and soap-boxing over previous grievances that either happened earlier that day or on a different day loudly over a megaphone or just loudly in the center of different crowds talking to different people. Lots of drama and very intense.

At the same time there are different groups trying different tactics to piss off the other side without being too provocative while dozens of cameras and other bystanders are watching. It's just like a typical X/social media feed, but in real life. Every one of them could make this go by away very quickly by signing out and going home but most stay because of the spectacle.


Hearing air horns and superchats going off all around. Just heard Eric Cartman's voice coming off of someone's phone. The dog squeeky toys are back and some random girl is yelling at people about billionaires on a megaphone and about how they "don't care about you". Someone just asked her if she has an Only Fans and she's heckling them back.

Also, Jesus just walked down the street and waved to the crowd.

Annd the Palestine flag came out not too long after that lol. Ironic.

Chicago's protests has more conflict but the police will respond back with UoF/hands on crowd control. Portland PD doesn't want to do anything at all so it's mostly just them standing around with radios.
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The Federal govt is allowed to call armies from different states. That's why they're called the National Guard.

National Guard (United States)
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The National Guard is a state-based military force that becomes part of the U.S. military's reserve components of the U.S. Army and the U.S. Air Force when activated for federal missions.[2]
Also, citizens who join the National Guard understand that they can called be all sorts of missions (including foreign). They've signed up for this work, regardless of which State they hail from. I've known people who signed up for the National Guard in the past because they know they're more likely to be called up over our own military.

They're effectively a reserve army that can be dispatched more easily in many cases. Employers aren't allowed to fire people who serve when called up and they have to maintain their training.
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ive heard a lot of commentators talking about civil war, but i really don't see it happening. The difference in capability between the government and the people makes it as close to impossible as you could get.

There may be unrest, but when the national guard start killing civilians, it will soon be over
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ive heard a lot of commentators talking about civil war, but i really don't see it happening. The difference in capability between the government and the people makes it as close to impossible as you could get.

There may be unrest, but when the national guard start killing civilians, it will soon be over
People who make explosive comments like that really don't understand the Constitution, so that says very little to me.

For 1) Virtually nothing that is happening today hasn't happened across our entire history. There's a fundamental tension between Federal and State that exists and it's by design. Edit: In that way, they're designed to cooperate until they don't and that's where bigger majorities may develop, things that can alter/amend the Constitution.

2) When most people talk about civil war, they're usually referring to a situation where it's The People as a sovereign entity rising up vs the Federal Govt. That's not how it will work. What will happen is the States individually will start to bulk and this effects Federal through our representation (Congress).

And yes, States arming themselves up between both its armed populace and militia/troops is our version of a civil war but there's too many avenues and steps that can be taken politically for that to be really necessary unless there is an outright invasion and it becomes an emergency. Sending troops to Portland to secure a federal facility doesn't count.

That said, I have been listening to livestreams and a general consensus is that Portland itself is safe. Even one of the MAGA people there (a German immigrant of 30 years) had said he thought this was a "mouse trap"-like situation where they were using the threat of troops to get enough extremists to come out of the woodwork so they could clean them out.
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