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Obviously praying does not work because murmuring to yourself will never change anything

Praying to your god of choice is also futile as the many and various gods are both not real and useless as stopping any misery that the world throws up.

Yet we still hear about thoughts and prayers and pray this and pray that. Yes Its a hangover from a superstitious earlier time but how do you feel about it?

It seems to more now mean "thinking about something, perhaps with many others"?
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If it gives people hope and strength in hard times then it's a good thing as far as I'm concerned, even if it doesn't do anything. Don't see that much wrong with it.
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How does it do that?
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If it gives people hope and strength in hard times then it's a good thing as far as I'm concerned, even if it doesn't do anything. Don't see that much wrong with it.
Agreed....for some it gives them solace and peace. Everyone deals with their issues in their own way. Their beliefs are exactly that, THEIRS and shouldn't concern anyone else. Calling people deranged for doing so is extremely offensive.
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The second part of your post is a little offensive, hmmm. I'm not actively religious, don't attend church, but I do believe in a God, and have said informal prayers at certain times in my life.

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Exactly this.
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I guess its back to wishful thinking again for humans as we deal with lifes futility and briefness
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I must be mentally deranged then as I believe in God AND pray
Yes but which god do you believe is and which ones dont you believe in?

there are hundreds
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Yes but which god do you believe is and which ones dont you believe in?

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I believe in my God and that's a personal thing
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Personally I wouldn't think of praying to a supposed entity that allegedly built this sh*thole of a planet but each to their own.
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Some people can succeed in life without faith and some can't, some people turn to faith at bad times in their lives and some don't. Everyone has different outlooks on life so as long it's not personally affecting you in an negative way then my opinion is give them peace to do what they want with their own lives.
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Some people can succeed in life without faith and some can't, some people turn to faith at bad times in their lives and some don't. Everyone has different outlooks on life so as long it's not personally affecting you in an negative way then my opinion is give them peace to do what they want with their own lives.
As long as we dont have this in schools or politics or medicine i dont think anyone cares.
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Don't you think it's mainly down to humans that it is a ****hole?
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Religion in general is a crock of old sh*t (IMO) but dismissing a massive proportion of people as 'mentally deranged' just because they believe in things you don't is absurd and it's this kind of attitude that tarnishes the reputation of non-believers.

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Nope. I've seen my fair share of natural world shows to conclude that nature is one cruel bastard.
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Agreed....for some it gives them solace and peace. Everyone deals with their issues in their own way. Their beliefs are exactly that, THEIRS and shouldn't concern anyone else. Calling people deranged for doing so is extremely offensive.
No it isn't it is the truth... Talking to an imaginary person is the first sign of mental illness and can quite comfortably be termed as deranged...

How you think think I am being offensive by stating the bleedin obvious is beyond me...!!!
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No it isn't it is the truth... Talking to an imaginary person is the first sign of mental illness and can quite comfortably be termed as deranged...

How you think think I am being offensive by stating the bleedin obvious is beyond me...!!!
Its an offensive post.

It is possible to get your point across with being insulting to numerous people in the process.
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No it isn't it is the truth... Talking to an imaginary person is the first sign of mental illness and can quite comfortably be termed as deranged...

How you think think I am being offensive by stating the bleedin obvious is beyond me...!!!
Nonsense. Offensive to people with mental health issues as well.
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The second part of your post is a little offensive, hmmm. I'm not actively religious, don't attend church, but I do believe in a God, and have said informal prayers at certain times in my life.



Exactly this.
OK.... Perhaps using the word deranged is a little strong perhaps I should have said a bit confused or perturbed
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I believe in God as well, I also believe if I ask God a question it's a safe bet I ain't gonna get a reply any time soon...

So after the first thousand times you speak with God (pray) you realise he may be listening but he ain't talking
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Thanks Kyle, yes I think I jumped into this a bit too quick and am digging a hole for myself here.

For what it's worth NO I don't think people are mentally deranged for praying. It was a bad choice of language.

I should have just said it's not something I would do but each to their own.

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Thanks Kyle, yes I think I jumped into this a bit too quick and am digging a hole for myself here.

For what it's worth NO I don't think people are mentally deranged for praying. It was a bad choice of language.

I should have just said it's not something I would do but each to their own

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