[Jack_]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Why though jack? People are allowed to change their opinions surely? It's not necessarily fickle. 3 weeks ago Helen was pretty vile, now I do think she has calmed down and people are seeing more of her in normal situations rather than just shouting her mouth off.

Because if they genuinely, truly thought she was this vile, evil bully that people on here were (and IMO seriously exaggerating...but everyone shot me down at the time) convinced she was, then no matter how much she may appear to have calmed down they would never forgive her for that kind of behaviour. If you think someone bullied people, I don't see how just a mere few weeks later they can be forgiven especially after the ridiculous reactions and rants people were having on this forum about her. I just think it's laughable to rewind a few weeks and remember the outrage over what were in my opinion a few nasty, isolated incidents that were blown out of proportion where she was branded a bully in what you'd think was the worst case of bullying in BBUK history (it wasn't anywhere near) - and now we've got people who prefer her to the one housemate who dared to criticise and bitch about her for the same reasons the viewers disliked her in the first place? To me, that's extremely fickle

It would take a lot more than for someone just to calm down and stop bullying if I truly thought they were a bully in the first place

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Because if they genuinely, truly thought she was this vile, evil bully that people on here were (and IMO seriously exaggerating...but everyone shot me down at the time) convinced she was, then no matter how much she may appear to have calmed down they would never forgive her for that kind of behaviour. If you think someone bullied people, I don't see how just a mere few weeks later they can be forgiven especially after the ridiculous reactions and rants people were having on this forum about her. I just think it's laughable to rewind a few weeks and remember the outrage over what were in my opinion a few nasty, isolated incidents that were blown out of proportion where she was branded a bully in what you'd think was the worst case of bullying in BBUK history (it wasn't anywhere near) - and now we've got people who prefer her to the one housemate who dared to criticise and bitch about her for the same reasons the viewers disliked her in the first place? To me, that's extremely fickle

It would take a lot more than for someone just to calm down and stop bullying if I truly thought they were a bully in the first place

Fair point

[Amy Jade]

Sorry but the comment she only did it for the cameras is so redundant. They are being filmed 24/7 everything is done for the cameras.

[Johnnyuk123]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Oh Verbal youve got a short memory ,shes not turned into Mother Theresa you know

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by StupidHoe

Sorry but the comment she only did it for the cameras is so redundant. They are being filmed 24/7 everything is done for the cameras.

That is a really excellent point,well pointed out.

[Northern Monkey]

Helen is human,She has many different sides to her.It just turns out that she has a larger percentage of nastyness than she does of caring-ness(if that's a real word.lol)

[Johnnyuk123]

Mark needed a moment alone to cry so he went into a corner with 8 cameras facing him from every angle to do his private crying away from everyone.

[Verbal]

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

Mark needed a moment alone to cry so he went into a corner with 8 cameras facing him from every angle to do his private crying away from everyone.

[jet]

Originally Posted by EyeballPaul

Helen is human,She has many different sides to her.It just turns out that she has a larger percentage of nastyness than she does of caring-ness(if that's a real word.lol)

I'd say 90% nasty, 10% nice usually, but she's laying on the niceness thicker to try to redeem herself with the public after bring warned for being a bully.

[chuff me dizzy]

The NEW Helen ,still making threats and inciting hatred in the house


http://bigbrother.channel5.com/day-3...eeling-festive

[Verbal]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

The NEW Helen ,still making threats and inciting hatred in the house


http://bigbrother.channel5.com/day-3...eeling-festive

I have never said that she has now turned into a fluffy kitten. She is abrasive that is partly what I like about her.

[RodHull]

Originally Posted by Verbal

She was quite clearly about the 3rd person to get to him

And then she struggled to look bothered had her usual smacked arse expression. Indeed after mat went (because of her) all she spoke about was how she got booed, no seeing if chris was ok or wondering how mat was, just moaning shell be gone next and the same miserable tedious face as usual

[Kizzy]

She was the first to comfort them both, while you would have thought she would have been busy celebrating that ash was saved ....

[RodHull]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

She was the first to comfort them both, while you would have thought she would have been busy celebrating that ash was saved ....

Nice attempt to spin it but clearly she was very sensitive to not celebrate someone leaving who other people liked, it was clearly her natural setting to show kindness... where as Ashleigh struggled to look remotely bothered one way or the other, has barely mentioned Mat since he went unless others bring him up first

[jjj2]

Originally Posted by Verbal

She was quite clearly about the 3rd person to get to him

You are wrong , Ashleigh was first to comfort Christopher ,Helen wasn't even second that was Danielle

[Gusto Brunt]

BB is desperate to soften Helen's image.

[GypsyGoth]

She's the alpha female of the house, so it's kinda her duty to do stuff like that.

[Verbal]

Originally Posted by jjj2

You are wrong , Ashleigh was first to comfort Christopher ,Helen wasn't even second that was Danielle

In my mind it is clear that they all turned around and the first person to speak out loud was Helen with the words 'Where is Christopher' who she then went looking for. Until I see the footage again and see something to the contrary, that is what happened.

I am also not 'putting a spin on it' @RodHull Ash, Winston, Marlon all celebrated as all the other HM's have all done the entire series, there is never any problem with that. She could have quite easily gone to Ash first, she didn't. If anything that is you trying to 'put a spin on it'

[serensilver]

If it was the other way around Ashleigh wouldnt have gone to Ash to comfort him if Helen had left!

I dont no about others but i dont want to tune in to BB and see nice people drinking tea and chatting, I want drama, arguments, etc. I like Helen she is good to watch.