[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

It's all down to fake news and perception, the forum is fine, it's just people have got into a habit of blaming SD for all the forums woes and obviously people are happy to run with that as it absolves themselves of any responsibility of how they behave

No. SD is to blame for problems in SD. The chat thread is to blame for problems in the chat thread etc etc.

Stop altering what people are saying because you've taken criticism of SD so personally that you simply must defend it.

You were allowed your opinions about the modding being a problem, other people are entitled to theirs.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Withano

Well of course you don’t see cheerleading as a problem with SD Kaz lol. It’s three quarters of the posts that you make there. It is seen as a problem though because it’s childish and causes hostility.

Using this most recent example
Cherie: people are envious
Withano: people are not envious
LT: when did you speak for everyone withano
Chuff: excellent joke LT

Its kinda hard to give your post any weight, if the squad cant see how utterly ridiculous you regularly portray yourself with an example that transparent, then its beyond the help you can receive from me.

In summary, SD is incredibly unpopular, and the reasons why is very clearly detailed in this thread on purpose, and on accident. Read through it if you want.

Whilst we are on personal insults on how we should be posting,maybe you should know how utterly hostile and unfriendly you come over, I don't want you to give my post any weight,and I don't need your permission to do so,you can carry on with your 'squad' talk, it's quite obviously said to stop us all posting on the same topic,well it wont work,maybe you should just lighten up,have a laugh and let people do the same,

[Nicky91]

true Marsh, whatever happens in SD, stays in SD

or whatever happens in chat thread, stays in chat thread

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Whilst we are on personal insults on how we should be posting,maybe you should know how utterly hostile and unfriendly you come over, I don't want you to give my post any weight,and I don't need your permission to do so,you can carry on with your 'squad' talk, it's quite obviously said to stop us all posting on the same topic,well it wont work,maybe you should just lighten up,have a laugh and let people do the same,

You're the one implying people who take part in ML are ego-driven... and now this.. there is a gang of cheerleaders, they do come across as childish, their cheers do cause hostility, and it is a problem with SD.

I don’t know how I can be clearer.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Withano

You're the one implying people who take part in ML are ego-driven... and now this.. there is a gang of cheerleaders, they do come across as childish, their cheers do cause hostility, and it is a problem with SD.

I don’t know how I can be clearer.

I still think you are just asking for your posts to get more love. Kaz have you good advice there tbh. Be nicer and not so hostile

[Withano]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I still think you are just asking for your posts to get more love. Kaz have you good advice there tbh. Be nicer and not so hostile

Tragic

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

No. SD is to blame for problems in SD. The chat thread is to blame for problems in the chat thread etc etc.

Stop altering what people are saying because you've taken criticism of SD so personally that you simply must defend it.

You were allowed your opinions about the modding being a problem, other people are entitled to theirs.

I'm not defensive at all, I can categorically say that I have never told anyone to go back to chat and games, and that goes for 99 per cent of SD posters as well, and if you were told that it was probably in jest

I can respond just the same as you can, no need to keep calling me defensive trying to get a rise

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Whilst we are on personal insults on how we should be posting,maybe you should know how utterly hostile and unfriendly you come over, I don't want you to give my post any weight,and I don't need your permission to do so,you can carry on with your 'squad' talk, it's quite obviously said to stop us all posting on the same topic,well it wont work,maybe you should just lighten up,have a laugh and let people do the same,

glass houses etc

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I'm not defensive at all, I can categorically say that I have never told anyone to go back to chat and games, and that goes for 99 per cent of SD posters as well, and if you were told that it was probably in jest

I can respond just the same as you can, no need to keep calling me defensive trying to get a rise

You are defensive. Incredibly defensive.

I haven't said you can't respond?

Trying to get a rise? No. I And many others are making their thoughts known. You didn't mind when the modding was the topic of such honesty.

You can speak on behalf of 99 per cent of SD posters? You've read and taken part in every SD discussion and seen every single post made by every single poster to come to this amazing conclusion? Everyone else is wrong because Cherie herself doesn't see a problem?

Again, it doesn't work like that.

In all the back and forth we've had you've yet to actually respond with anything concrete to what I originally posted about SD that you disagreed with so probably best to leave it there.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

You are defensive. Incredibly defensive.

I haven't said you can't respond?

Trying to get a rise? No. I And many others are making their thoughts known. You didn't mind when the modding was the topic of such honesty.

You can speak on behalf of 99 per cent of SD posters? You've read and taken part in every SD discussion and seen every single post made by every single poster to come to this amazing conclusion? Everyone else is wrong because Cherie herself doesn't see a problem?

Again, it doesn't work like that.

In all the back and forth we've had you've yet to actually respond with anything concrete to what I originally posted about SD that you disagreed with so probably best to leave it there.

You are trying to get a rise by continually saying I am defensive, I read most of the SD threads as it is the only forum I use in off season so yes I think I have an idea of what happen in there, probably more than you do in fact

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

...ehm, ehm...what about lbgt subforum? maybe Maru's right and we need something different from the usual, and go love/relationships/psychology route? Hopefully there'd be less bickering there?

Dragging this back on topic, Nicky has asked me to stop arguing so I will

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Cherie

You are trying to get a rise by continually saying I am defensive, I read most of the SD threads as it is the only forum I use in off season so yes I think I have an idea of what happen in there, probably more than you do in fact

Many people from the same gang are having trouble seeing and understanding the issues...


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[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

...ehm, ehm...what about lbgt subforum? maybe Maru's right and we need something different from the usual, and go love/relationships/psychology route? Hopefully there'd be less bickering there?

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[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

You are trying to get a rise by continually saying I am defensive, I read most of the SD threads as it is the only forum I use in off season so yes I think I have an idea of what happen in there, probably more than you do in fact

Except I'm giving my experience of SD.

I'm not speaking for other people unlike you.

Defend your mates all you want it doesn't change facts.

And yes I will say you're defensive. What other word is there for you jumping to SD's defence when something is said about it?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

...ehm, ehm...what about lbgt subforum? maybe Maru's right and we need something different from the usual, and go love/relationships/psychology route? Hopefully there'd be less bickering there?

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[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Except I'm giving my experience of SD.

I'm not speaking for other people unlike you.

Defend your mates all you want it doesn't change facts.

And yes I will say you're defensive. What other word is there for you jumping to SD's defence when something is said about it?

you have not made a thread in SD since 2016

[Twosugars]

Using my 1000th post (go ts2, go ts2) to say again (thanks Cherie) that maybe another serious subforum where we could have more relaxed approach could take the heat off SD etc? Like Maru suggested. It doesn't have to be purely lgbt anymore, let's have relationships, psychology, lifestyle stuff in too... I don't ****ing know anymore, just something that could be accepted by a majority. And in the long run it could give a chance to a less confrontational style of discussing stuff?

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Withano

Well of course you don’t see cheerleading as a problem with SD Kaz lol. It’s three quarters of the posts that you make there. It is seen as a problem though because it’s childish and causes hostility.

Using this most recent example
Cherie: people are envious
Withano: people are not envious
LT: when did you speak for everyone withano
Chuff: excellent joke LT

Its kinda hard to give your post any weight, if the squad cant see how utterly ridiculous you regularly portray yourself with an example that transparent, then its beyond the help you can receive from me.

In summary, SD is incredibly unpopular, and the reasons why is very clearly detailed in this thread on purpose, and on accident. Read through it if you want.

You my dear are by far the most hostile member on here !! you admitted (Comment 6 ) that you only came on to see what you were missing ,no doubt to pick the bones of someones comment ,ANYONE who goes in ML does it for one reason............ to see if their little childish group backs them ,I and others don't need that pat on the back as we already have it in our homes

[Withano]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

You my dear are by far the most hostile member on here !! you admitted (Comment 6 ) that you only came on to see what you were missing ,no doubt to pick the bones of someones comment ,ANYONE who goes in ML does it for one reason............ to see if their little childish group backs them ,I and others don't need that pat on the back as we already have it in our homes

Originally Posted by Cherie

glass houses etc

Originally Posted by Withano

Many people from the same gang are having trouble seeing and understanding the issues...


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[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Withano

Main reason I entered the thread tbh

I rest my case :s hocked:

[Withano]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

I rest my case :s hocked:

That was my response to ‘imagine the breakdowns from certain members’

Completely forgot about that

If anybody wants the future told, pm me.

Damn, should have guessed which exact members they were too, pretty sure i would have got it 100% accurate

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Withano

That was my response to ‘imagine the breakdowns from certain members’

Completely forgot about that

If anybody wants the future told, pm me.

Damn, should have guessed which exact members they were too, pretty sure i would have got it 100% accurate

Ditto ,and I was spot on right

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

You my dear are by far the most hostile member on here !! you admitted (Comment 6 ) that you only came on to see what you were missing ,no doubt to pick the bones of someones comment ,ANYONE who goes in ML does it for one reason............ to see if their little childish group backs them ,I and others don't need that pat on the back as we already have it in our homes

are you saying there that those who take part in Most Loved do it "to see if their little childish group backs them" ?

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

are you saying there that those who take part in Most Loved do it "to see if their little childish group backs them" ?

Why would YOU go in it ? Its always baffled me to be honest, but then again Ive never felt insecure in my home life

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Why would YOU go in it ? Its always baffled me to be honest, but then again Ive never felt insecure in my home life

My case is not the best example.
As a newbie I didn't want to withdraw bc didn't expect to qualify anyway and didn't want to make a fuss.
You are being very unfair drawing conclusions about people's home lives.
It's a harmless contest and it's nice to be liked and appreciated by others. It's not necessary but it's nice. People take it with humour regardless the result.
Sorry to say but it's you who seems insecure. If only you could show your softer side, without compromising your views of course, you could have better time here. As it is it's you who comes across unhappy. Glad to hear your home life is fine though.
I simply wouldn't make such sweeping and tenuous assumptions. It's simply not true.