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Crimson Dynamo · 13-07-2018, 08:28 AM

In his EXPLOSIVE Sun interview

The US President says the wave of migrants from the Middle East and Africa is permanently changing Europe for the worse

The wave of migrants from the Middle East and Africa is permanently changing Europe for the worse, the 72-year-old president argued.

Mr Trump told The Sun: “I have great love for countries in Europe.

“Don’t forget, essentially I’m a product of the European Union, between Scotland and Germany.

“Right? My father Germany, my mother Scotland.”

But he added: “I think what has happened to Europe is a shame.

“Allowing the immigration to take place in Europe is a shame.

“I think it changed the fabric of Europe and, unless you act very quickly, it’s never going to be what it was and I don’t mean that in a positive way.

“So I think allowing millions and millions of people to come into Europe is very, very sad.

“I think you are losing your culture. Look around. You go through certain areas that didn’t exist ten or 15 years ago.”

Mr Trump made tackling illegal US immigration one of the planks of his 2016 election campaign.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/676694...e-immigration/

Do you agree with President Trump that the current economic migrant crisis in Europe and the UK has changed both in a Negative way?

bots · 13-07-2018, 08:29 AM

click bait

Oliver_W · 13-07-2018, 08:30 AM

Well, huge amounts of people from the Middle East aren't exactly gonna make a place better, are they.

Kazanne · 13-07-2018, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

In his EXPLOSIVE Sun interview

The US President says the wave of migrants from the Middle East and Africa is permanently changing Europe for the worse

The wave of migrants from the Middle East and Africa is permanently changing Europe for the worse, the 72-year-old president argued.

Mr Trump told The Sun: “I have great love for countries in Europe.

“Don’t forget, essentially I’m a product of the European Union, between Scotland and Germany.

“Right? My father Germany, my mother Scotland.”

But he added: “I think what has happened to Europe is a shame.

“Allowing the immigration to take place in Europe is a shame.

“I think it changed the fabric of Europe and, unless you act very quickly, it’s never going to be what it was and I don’t mean that in a positive way.

“So I think allowing millions and millions of people to come into Europe is very, very sad.

“I think you are losing your culture. Look around. You go through certain areas that didn’t exist ten or 15 years ago.”

Mr Trump made tackling illegal US immigration one of the planks of his 2016 election campaign.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/676694...e-immigration/

Do you agree with President Trump that the current economic migrant crisis in Europe and the UK has changed both in a Negative way?

I've just seen this on The Wright Stuff, a good debate on there, I have to say he is right, I think.

Smithy · 13-07-2018, 08:38 AM

Racist wotsit is racist statement shocker

Crimson Dynamo · 13-07-2018, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide

click bait

Its leading the news agenda this morning....

Crimson Dynamo · 13-07-2018, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne

I've just seen this on The Wright Stuff, a good debate on there, I have to say he is right, I think.

He says what people are thinking and what leaders are too scared to say

hence the reason he is more and more popular

Kazanne · 13-07-2018, 08:45 AM

It's really not racist to see that our culture is being lost,it's all around us,just look ,it's not racist just fact.

Smithy · 13-07-2018, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne

It's really not racist to see that our culture is being lost,it's all around us,just look ,it's not racist just fact.

What culture? Pork pies, the EDL, and coal mines?

Good riddance

Crimson Dynamo · 13-07-2018, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Smithy

What culture? Pork pies, the EDL, and coal mines?

Good riddance

Have they ever had any one of them in Guernsey?

Smithy · 13-07-2018, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Have they ever had any one of them in Guernsey?

Not relevant

I’m not FROM Guernsey?

Redway · 13-07-2018, 08:54 AM

What culture?

Except for the worst world food.

Crimson Dynamo · 13-07-2018, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Smithy

Not relevant

I’m not FROM Guernsey?

then i am not sure what the 3 weird things represent to you?

bots · 13-07-2018, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne

It's really not racist to see that our culture is being lost,it's all around us,just look ,it's not racist just fact.

If you mean we have other cultures now than we used to have, i would agree, we are multi cultural, and, I can only speak for myself in welcoming other cultures.

Do i like culturally isolated ghettos? No I don't. and we certainly have a few of those.

I've been part of an ex pat community in other european countries .... we create them where ever we go .... and hated that to.

Cultural integration, there is absolutely nothing wrong with if we take the best from other cultures for everyones benefit.

I think that is the way these discussions should go personally, rather than click bait controversy.

Crimson Dynamo · 13-07-2018, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide

If you mean we have other cultures now than we used to have, i would agree, we are multi cultural, and, I can only speak for myself in welcoming other cultures.

Do i like culturally isolated ghettos? No I don't. and we certainly have a few of those.

I've been part of an ex pat community in other european countries .... we create them where ever we go .... and hated that to.

Cultural integration, there is absolutely nothing wrong with if we take the best from other cultures for everyones benefit.

I think that is the way these discussions should go personally, rather than click bait controversy.

sadly whenever anyone raises the thorny issue of uncontrolled immigration and the horrible effect its had on cities in England people just go on about why controlled immigration is beneficial and it is but its not what the issue is

failing that they just pull out the race card and try and shut it down

Tom4784 · 13-07-2018, 09:24 AM

The UK was built on the cultures of other countries. We'd have been a very different country were it not for the Vikings, Romans and Anglo Saxons and even our language is based off of a mix of German, Latin and French. We have always been a multicultural country.

You can't 'lose' culture, it can only adapt and change and grow.

armand.kay · 13-07-2018, 09:24 AM

Culture is forever adapting half of the things we see as 'british' were imported here at the time of the empire... also what exactly has been lost as a result of migration? Because I can't really think of anything

Josy · 13-07-2018, 09:25 AM

I agree with a lot of his points tbh

Kazanne · 13-07-2018, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by armand.kay

Culture is forever adapting half of the things we see as 'british' were imported here at the time of the empire... also what exactly has been lost as a result of migration? Because I can't really think of anything

https://www.learnenglish.de/britishculture.html

Tom4784 · 13-07-2018, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne

https://www.learnenglish.de/britishculture.html

And none of that is under threat.

Honestly, it's just all hysteria and ignorance tbh.

Smithy · 13-07-2018, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne

https://www.learnenglish.de/britishculture.html

You just posted a list of things that haven’t been affected by migration in any way, shape or form, well done!

Kazanne · 13-07-2018, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Smithy

You just posted a list of things that haven’t been affected by migration in any way, shape or form, well done!

I know , what is your point ?

Smithy · 13-07-2018, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne

I know , what is your point ?

Armand asked what is under threat/has been lost because of immigration and you posted that list, did you even read his post?

Kazanne · 13-07-2018, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Smithy

Armand asked what is under threat/has been lost because of immigration and you posted that list, did you even read his post?

Not that I have to answer to you , but I posted it so people can see what our cultures and traditions are , they can make their own minds up if anything has changed.

Crimson Dynamo · 13-07-2018, 09:39 AM

I recall going down to get tickets at West Ham on non match days. The whole of the area was Indian/pakistani, shops, markets people. You saw the odd white person but it was and is too much.

Up in Scotland most cities have a good blend of immigrant and indigenous but look at Bradford, Birmingham or Leicester

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