[Parmy]

Oh thats who asia thingy is....omg..thats wierd.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

My hope is he appeals and she is made to go to court

You want a man to appeal his sentence based on nothing but a dislike of Chloe.

People don't get 16 years on no evidence.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

You want a man to appeal his sentence based on nothing but a dislike of Chloe.

People don't get 16 years on no evidence.

Nothing to do with me liking or disliking her, its the holes in her story that need working out

[Miranda123]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

And yet her kidnappers were STILL convicted. What does that tell you?

That the Italian Justice system is ****ed

[Miranda123]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

You want a man to appeal his sentence based on nothing but a dislike of Chloe.

People don't get 16 years on no evidence.

whatever you think Marsh

As she has deceide to go into the CBB house, we can judge her all we want, thats what its all about

Its a popularity contest...........so judge away

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Miranda123

whatever you think Marsh

As she has deceide to go into the CBB house, we can judge her all we want, thats what its all about

Its a popularity contest...........so judge away

And flown the world doing interview after interview where she's calm and controlled ,started doing a book even before the trial Ł$Ł$Ł$Ł$ŁŁ not a bit like a vulnerable " baby "

[Elliot]

Originally Posted by Miranda123

FFSake take off the victimhood

I am a woman, and always have been, does that mean I cant blame women for anything??

Thats idiotic

I think women have got a bit above themselves with this whole #metoo ****

In fact one of the main characters from that whole f.cking ****storm, Asia Argento, who accused Harvey Weinstein of raping her (even after admitting to a 4 years relationship with him AFTER the rape was meant to have happened) has paid off a 17 year old boy, whom she raped when he was 17 and she was 37 years old

Now I know it doesnt have a lot to do with Chloe, but women who act like professional victims really f..k me off

One minute you want to be equal, then more than equal, then every man is a rapist, or kidnapper, or wife beater, or controlling

In all the above cases, including Chloe's THERE WAS A ****ING DOOR, BUT USING IT WOULD HAVE PUT YOU OUT OF WORK, WHETHER YOU ARE A WH.RE AN ACTRESS OR A SUPPOSED KIDNAPPEE

Fantastic post. So many people have experiences that both support and oppose these narratives, yet we only cater to the ones that feed the ideological stances? Such a baseless and unfair accusation to say that people doubt her because she’s female, and the reciprocal of that will be the justice system catering to that, and thus unfair trials. And this is coming from someone who believes Chloe.

[Miranda123]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

And flown the world doing interview after interview where she's calm and controlled ,started doing a book even before the trial Ł$Ł$Ł$Ł$ŁŁ not a bit like a vulnerable " baby "

just a badly dressed one lol

[Miranda123]

Originally Posted by Elliot

Fantastic post. So many people have experiences that both support and oppose these narratives, yet we only cater to the ones that feed the ideological stances? Such a baseless and unfair accusation to say that people doubt her because she’s female, and the reciprocal of that will be the justice system catering to that, and thus unfair trials. And this is coming from someone who believes Chloe.

If this girl was my daughter and had really experienced this, then I would lock her away myself before I would let her enter this show

If what she says is true, then one has to suppose she is suffering Post Traumatic Stress, which means that the psych people from BB would have turned her down anyway

I suggest there is no stress, even about the poor guy locked up for her career

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Miranda123

just a badly dressed one lol

If I hear her blame her looks on her not being believed again I swear I will scream

[Miranda123]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

If I hear her blame her looks on her not being believed again I swear I will scream

I know!

A badly made up skank

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Nothing to do with me liking or disliking her, its the holes in her story that need working out

They weren't convicted on her "say so".

[Captain.Remy]

Welp the hurt I have provoked in people's heart is real

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Miranda123

That the Italian Justice system is ****ed

Based on what exactly?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Miranda123

whatever you think Marsh

As she has deceide to go into the CBB house, we can judge her all we want, thats what its all about

Its a popularity contest...........so judge away

I have not commented on your judgement of Chloe. That's a separate discussion entirely.

I'm challenging the assertion that two men are innocent, despite receiving very long prison sentences.

But, you've reviewed all of the evidence to come to that conclusion I'm sure.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

And flown the world doing interview after interview where she's calm and controlled ,started doing a book even before the trial Ł$Ł$Ł$Ł$ŁŁ not a bit like a vulnerable " baby "

She doesn't need to be a "vulnerable baby" for her story to be true though?

She doesn't need to be a weak and quivering wreck for the two men to be guilty of their crimes.

[Captain.Remy]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I have not commented on your judgement of Chloe. That's a separate discussion entirely.

I'm challenging the assertion that two men are innocent, despite receiving very long prison sentences.

But, you've reviewed all of the evidence to come to that conclusion I'm sure.

That's what I am saying since the beginning. We have some amazing trained professionnal investigators and prosecutors on TIBB, who know that justice system and that particular case inside out. The FBI is shook.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

If I hear her blame her looks on her not being believed again I swear I will scream

Except... you don't believe her based on her appearance.

You expect her to be a quivering wreck, an innocent angel in order to be a victim. And because she isn't, you've decided she's a liar.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Miranda123

I know!

A badly made up skank

You're now ridiculing her for saying she's being judged on her looks by judging her looks. Making several posts calling her a skank, mocking her looks and ridiculing her dress sense.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Miranda123

If this girl was my daughter and had really experienced this, then I would lock her away myself before I would let her enter this show

If what she says is true, then one has to suppose she is suffering Post Traumatic Stress, which means that the psych people from BB would have turned her down anyway

I suggest there is no stress, even about the poor guy locked up for her career

"Poor guy"

How much do you know about him?

[annabelindabee]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

So the woman who was tough enough to make up one of the biggest cock and bull stories for years, how now turned into the crying, weak, vulnerable house baby ............. Make it stop Chloe

Ive already posted this on a thread but theres soo many up now that its hard to find so I will post it again....


SHE'S NOT A ****ING LIER! SHE JUST DID NOT KNOW THE TRUTH AT THE BEING...

why are so many people completly ignorant yet happy to insult her over something they have no clue about!




I read up about her story last year and I did not believe it as there was soooo many inconsistencies...

1. She first told people there were 6 kidnappers who did the first kidnapping... yet only one got arrested...

2. She later said they came from behind stuck something in her and the next thing she remembered, was her tied and gagged in a car.... eg if they came from behind how did she know she was attacked by 6 people.

3. she said when in the car she was gagged with her hands behind her back yet she also claims that she was screaming "get me out" and banging on car ... how can she scream and bang if she is gagged and tried.. (if its gagged and tried by an armature then mayby she managed to free herself during the long journey)

4. she talked about the 'black death' sex trafficking ring wanting to sell her into the sex ring... yet the kidnapper asked for a large amount of ransom money off the agent (who is not emotional connected to her) in return for not giving her to this gang... but that did not add up as she said this ring was the ones responsible for attacking and drugging her and she had seen a picture of her unconscious at the time of the attack with a 'deathstar' logo on her..... so if they attacked her, why then is she now with this other guy who is asking for ransom money off someone who will not pay... sex trafficking gangs are very rich and very deadly... hence they would not need to kidnap a girl who is a fairly ugly glamour model from a poor background... these groups won't bother kidnapping girls like her for ransom, they would just pass her on... use her... and thats its... it would be too late to save her... they would only kidnap for ransom children of rich people not poor...

5. but then there were other stories that she said which was that guy who was holding her... he wanted the money so he can pay off this sex ring group as apparently he owned a debt to them and need money to pay of that debt... and agreed to hold her in order to pay off this debt... this sounds crazy as sex trafficking rings would most likely just kill any one who was in bebt to the group not get them to hold a girl in hope of getting an agent to pay money...


6. she said that the guy holding her, tied her up naked to a bed for several days yet after she went out shoe shopping and had breakfast together... eg they acted more like freind not kidnapper and hostages... and she said that she tried to get him to like her by promising that she will be his girlfriend when she gets home...

7. after she got back home she seemed too clam too happy and was happy to wear trashy yet sexy clothing when taking to the press about the ordeal! that seemed like a publicity stunt...

None of these stories added up... This is why people like me did not believe her...




Recently I researched futher and I believe I know the truth:

1: she did not see how many people it was that drudged she was just told by him that it was 6 but he was lying to her!

2: there was a picture but it was not taken by a sex ring it was taken by the kidnapper to scare her and make her feel that the threat was not from the kidnapper but was from a much bigger group but this was all his lies to get her to not run away from him... she believed these lies for many months after ... I think she only found out near court time that this group never existed!

3. she was tied up in the farm house but she only ever saw one guy (and maybe the brother at times) but he told lots of lies to her that she did not know what to believe...

4. after days of being lied to she just thought that the best was to survive was to be this guys freind and hope that he would let her go... but because she was more scared of this group that did not existed, she saw her kidnapper as her protector and not her enemy... that's why she was not scared when press talked to her because she thought her kidnapper was trying to save her from this group that she never actually came into contact with...

Thats why people dont believe her as her early stories were about this fake sex ring ... but later only this one guy was arrested...

He was arrested as he kidnapped and drugged her (with help of his brother), but he did not want her to think it was his idea... she only found out the truth later as the investigators found out the truth only later... that why her story changed!
__________________

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Except... you don't believe her based on her appearance.

You expect her to be a quivering wreck, an innocent angel in order to be a victim. And because she isn't, you've decided she's a liar.

Wrong I don't believe her due to gaping holes in her varying stories

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Wrong I don't believe her due to gaping holes in her varying stories

No. You've just illustrated you don't believe her because she's not acting/reacting the way you think a victim should be.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by annabelindabee

Ive already posted this on a thread but theres soo many up now that its hard to find so I will post it again....


SHE'S NOT A ****ING LIER! SHE JUST DID NOT KNOW THE TRUTH AT THE BEING...

why are so many people completly ignorant yet happy to insult her over something they have no clue about!




I read up about her story last year and I did not believe it as there was soooo many inconsistencies...

1. She first told people there were 6 kidnappers who did the first kidnapping... yet only one got arrested...

2. She later said they came from behind stuck something in her and the next thing she remembered, was her tied and gagged in a car.... eg if they came from behind how did she know she was attacked by 6 people.

3. she said when in the car she was gagged with her hands behind her back yet she also claims that she was screaming "get me out" and banging on car ... how can she scream and bang if she is gagged and tried.. (if its gagged and tried by an armature then mayby she managed to free herself during the long journey)

4. she talked about the 'black death' sex trafficking ring wanting to sell her into the sex ring... yet the kidnapper asked for a large amount of ransom money off the agent (who is not emotional connected to her) in return for not giving her to this gang... but that did not add up as she said this ring was the ones responsible for attacking and drugging her and she had seen a picture of her unconscious at the time of the attack with a 'deathstar' logo on her..... so if they attacked her, why then is she now with this other guy who is asking for ransom money off someone who will not pay... sex trafficking gangs are very rich and very deadly... hence they would not need to kidnap a girl who is a fairly ugly glamour model from a poor background... these groups won't bother kidnapping girls like her for ransom, they would just pass her on... use her... and thats its... it would be too late to save her... they would only kidnap for ransom children of rich people not poor...

5. but then there were other stories that she said which was that guy who was holding her... he wanted the money so he can pay off this sex ring group as apparently he owned a debt to them and need money to pay of that debt... and agreed to hold her in order to pay off this debt... this sounds crazy as sex trafficking rings would most likely just kill any one who was in bebt to the group not get them to hold a girl in hope of getting an agent to pay money...


6. she said that the guy holding her, tied her up naked to a bed for several days yet after she went out shoe shopping and had breakfast together... eg they acted more like freind not kidnapper and hostages... and she said that she tried to get him to like her by promising that she will be his girlfriend when she gets home...

7. after she got back home she seemed too clam too happy and was happy to wear trashy yet sexy clothing when taking to the press about the ordeal! that seemed like a publicity stunt...

None of these stories added up... This is why people like me did not believe her...




Recently I researched futher and I believe I know the truth:

1: she did not see how many people it was that drudged she was just told by him that it was 6 but he was lying to her!

2: there was a picture but it was not taken by a sex ring it was taken by the kidnapper to scare her and make her feel that the threat was not from the kidnapper but was from a much bigger group but this was all his lies to get her to not run away from him... she believed these lies for many months after ... I think she only found out near court time that this group never existed!

3. she was tied up in the farm house but she only ever saw one guy (and maybe the brother at times) but he told lots of lies to her that she did not know what to believe...

4. after days of being lied to she just thought that the best was to survive was to be this guys freind and hope that he would let her go... but because she was more scared of this group that did not existed, she saw her kidnapper as her protector and not her enemy... that's why she was not scared when press talked to her because she thought her kidnapper was trying to save her from this group that she never actually came into contact with...

Thats why people dont believe her as her early stories were about this fake sex ring ... but later only this one guy was arrested...

He was arrested as he kidnapped and drugged her (with help of his brother), but he did not want her to think it was his idea... she only found out the truth later as the investigators found out the truth only later... that why her story changed!
__________________

On EVERY video of her in interviews she has said there were 2 ,then 3 how kidnapped her

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Miranda123

FFSake take off the victimhood

I am a woman, and always have been, does that mean I cant blame women for anything??

Thats idiotic

I think women have got a bit above themselves with this whole #metoo ****

In fact one of the main characters from that whole f.cking ****storm, Asia Argento, who accused Harvey Weinstein of raping her (even after admitting to a 4 years relationship with him AFTER the rape was meant to have happened) has paid off a 17 year old boy, whom she raped when he was 17 and she was 37 years old

Now I know it doesnt have a lot to do with Chloe, but women who act like professional victims really f..k me off

One minute you want to be equal, then more than equal, then every man is a rapist, or kidnapper, or wife beater, or controlling

In all the above cases, including Chloe's THERE WAS A ****ING DOOR, BUT USING IT WOULD HAVE PUT YOU OUT OF WORK, WHETHER YOU ARE A WH.RE AN ACTRESS OR A SUPPOSED KIDNAPPEE

Women can be misogynists too as evidenced by this post.

Saying that women are getting a 'bit above themselves' for shining a light on a culture of sexual abuse says it all really.