[Shaun]

We're out. Never in my lifetime (when I've paid attention that is) have England not qualified for a major football tournament.

[Dan_]

This has got to be one of, if not the lowest point in the history of English national team.I just cannot believe there's going to a major tournament without us, it's just going to feel so odd watching it next summer without a team to support.

It was a total joke of a performance, too many players really let themselves down and they have let all the supporters down.I just cannot believe some of the abject displays from the players, so long taken getting the ball back into play.

We were given a lifeline and only needed a draw but we couldn't even muster that.I'm still in a stake of bewilderment.

Do the honourable thing Mr.McClaren and just quit.

[BigSister]

any ideas for next manager i cant really think of any1 and thats the truth all i acan think of is mourino

[Red Moon]

Sacking people doesn't help..... what needs to happen is for England to rebuild a side that actually believes in itself.

[BigSister]

well whoelse is there is we throw out rooney owen etc who by the way didnt play so you cant blame them

[Dan_]

Originally posted by Red Moon
Sacking people doesn't help..... what needs to happen is for England to rebuild a side that actually believes in itself.

Well the side's not been too much different from the one Sven had, we always sailed through qualifying under his management.

They need a manager to get the players playing together as a team.McClaren played a formation that didn't work tonight.

[Mark]

I don't think we qualified for world cup 1994, that was the last time.

We need a decent manager, and a decent goalkeeper (rob green would be good to try out).

- Mark

[BigSister]

no that was the last time mark i agree

[Red Moon]

Maybe that side is getting old and we need new blood. Why not sack the players they lost the game?

What ever the manager said during the break worked. They left the field with there heads held low at half time and they came out and turned the game around and scored 2 goals.

The problem lies with the Premiership that is full of overseas players so our home grown talent never gets to develop.