[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Do you think blocking traffic for a few days will magically make the government make the necessary changes? Or would it be more likely to piss everyone off and make it harder to take the cause seriously?

(btw to quote multiple posts in one, you can click the button that looks like speech bubble with a green dot on it)

Don't patronise me.

Anybody that uses this as an excuse to not take climate change is a fool that's just looking for a reason to deny reality. Let's see how seriously they'll take it when they're drowning.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Don't patronise me.

Anybody that uses this as an excuse to not take climate change is a fool that's just looking for a reason to deny reality. Let's see how seriously they'll take it when they're drowning.

yeah when we're all drowning we'll wish that we had that one extra day of living road blocks, because of all the difference it makes.

Taking climate change seriously, and finding those people idiotic and a waste of time aren't mutually exclusive.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

yeah when we're all drowning we'll wish that we had that one extra day of living road blocks, because of all the difference it makes.

Taking climate change seriously, and finding those people idiotic and a waste of time aren't mutually exclusive.

People are using any excuse not to take climate change seriously because it's a truth they don't want to face. We've seen this for years now and we'll see it right up until we're underwater.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

yeah when we're all drowning we'll wish that we had that one extra day of living road blocks, because of all the difference it makes.

Right, so that's why you've chosen to use this time to whine about the inconvenience of road blocks over climate change.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Right, so that's why you've chosen to use this time to whine about the inconvenience of road blocks over climate change.

What? Why would I choose a time when they're not clogging up the roads to "whine" about it?

[arista]

[Oliver_W]

Bring out the water cannons tbh.

why should people get stranded and possibly lose their holidays just to make a point no-one is listening to?

[AnnieK]

Climate change is a huge issue that needs addressing, quickly. However, this seems to be ill thought out, why start a protest when parliament are on an Easter break. If they were sitting they could be forced to debate it if the protests were bringing London to a stand still but whilst politicians are enjoying their fiddled expenses at their country retreats, all they are thinking is thank **** we're not in London.

[arista]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Climate change is a huge issue that needs addressing, quickly. However, this seems to be ill thought out, why start a protest when parliament are on an Easter break. If they were sitting they could be forced to debate it if the protests were bringing London to a stand still but whilst politicians are enjoying their fiddled expenses at their country retreats, all they are thinking is thank **** we're not in London.

Yes MP's back on Tuesday
and this bunch of trouble makers
want to stay next week as well,
They are changing people fast,
many interviewed on SkyNewsHD confirmed they just
popped down for a day
they use social media to attract so many.


Will any more Superstars Fly in
to get positive PR?

[arista]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

People are using any excuse not to take climate change seriously because it's a truth they don't want to face. We've seen this for years now and we'll see it right up until we're underwater.

Yes Dezzy
But your gas boiler must be ripped out?

This group are fascist

[michael21]

Originally Posted by arista

[Environmental activists block parts
of central London in climate change protest
Campaign group Extinction Rebellion
are blocking five locations across the
capital including Oxford Circus and Parliament Square.]

[The demonstrations have turned violent
after windows were targeted at
the Shell building in Lambeth, southeast London.]


Great to show the kids with them
its good to smash windows.
Pathetic Bunch.


https://news.sky.com/story/environme...otest-11694649

But the one that smash the window is a window fitter no less

[michael21]

I not been watching The news but the green man dont Ike I good et there be more

[arista]

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

What? Why would I choose a time when they're not clogging up the roads to "whine" about it?

You just admitted that as things get worse in the future due to climate change, you wouldn't be so silly as to look back on these days and wish you didn't have the inconvenience of road blocks.

Yet... you're spending today moaning about the inconvenience of road blocks, instead of the importance of preventing that dire future due to climate change.

[arista]

[arista]

The Pathetic group sent Only around 15 Children to Heathrow
at Terminal 2
and Police have stopped them.
Fast Moving Road next to them saved by Police.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

You just admitted that as things get worse in the future due to climate change, you wouldn't be so silly as to look back on these days and wish you didn't have the inconvenience of road blocks.

Yet... you're spending today moaning about the inconvenience of road blocks, instead of the importance of preventing that dire future due to climate change.

Two things can be true at once - climate change can need addressing, and those protesters can try to do something about it in a way which doesn't piss everyone off.

[arista]

Only 4 Children left
all the others walked away
as they did not fancy getting locked up at a Police Station.

They are on Private land
and will be soon arrested

There are a couple of Adult observers , making notes
with their orange clothing.


Ref: SkyNewsHD and LBC Live Debate


https://news.sky.com/story/police-to...sters-11697820

[Cherie]

Glad they haven't been able to disrupt peoples hard earned holidays, that is not going to endear them to anybody

[arista]

Also we are not in a Emergency
these people on LBC Radio.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I imagine you'll be far more sick of the sea level when it rises to the point that you no longer have a home.

But, how is the current behaviour helping? I don't get it. Still getting stuck on the disrupting buses/trains. I can understand trying to disrupt heathrow as air travel is generally quite unnecesary (however, I did once miss out on a few days holiday because of protestors once,I had not felt rage like it tbh given I had saved for the holiday for 5 years...) but this stopping trains and that, when they should be encouraging people to use trains/public transprt in general

Also, I kind of think, even if every person in this country stopped travel, stopped using plastic, stopped using aerosols and that, it wouldn't even slightly dent whats coming. So you can disrupt UK peoples lives all you want, it won't make even a tiny bit of difference when the rest of the world goes on as normal.

I genuinely think we are just ****ed regardless, as china and such are not going to stop, and anywhere else is totally a drop in the (rising) ocean without those joining in.

I am finding the photos of all the protestors rubbish funny in a way though. Especially when they are doing graffitti with aerosol, many seem to be keeping their stuff in plastic bags and using disposable water bottles, that kind of thing, which they then seem to be just dumping on the streets rather than even using a bin! So, surely, they cannot expect everyone lse to change when they seem to refuse to, when they are meant to be more passionate about this stuff than others!

TLDR; Its kind of past the point of no return with global warming. And noone will ever get anywhere while china and such keep pumping so much crap into the atmosphere. Pessimistic, yeah, but realistic. I figure we will blow ourselves up with nukes or something long before global warming reaches its peak. Humans are self destructive creatures. And we want to take the world down with us.


Also not sure how true this is as havent searched yet, but apparently one of the worst things you can ever do for the environment is reproduce... Can just imagine the reactions if we did take on a 'one/no children' limit

[BBDodge]

Originally Posted by arista

The Pathetic group sent Only around 15 Children to Heathrow
at Terminal 2
and Police have stopped them.
Fast Moving Road next to them saved by Police.

Keep the environmentalists away from those lethal car fumes.

The drivers, of course, will live shorter, less healthy lives.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I guess the point flies higher over your head than the planes !!!

We all know what the point is, and I agree with the cause ,but to put peoples health and livelyhoods at risk is not on.imo.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by BBDodge

Keep the environmentalists away from those lethal car fumes.

The drivers, of course, will live shorter, less healthy lives.

Yes,I bet all their cars are parked up

[Northern Monkey]

The thing is.They’re targeting the wrong government.

Carbon emissions in the UK are 38% lower than they were in 1990.
That’s a fall from around 600 million tonnes of CO2 (MtCO2) in 1990 to around 367MtCO2 two years ago, according to new analysis by Carbon Brief.
The decline is largely due to a cleaner electricity mix based on gas and renewables instead of coal as well as falling energy demand across homes, businesses and industry.


UK greenhouse gas emissions down 2.5 percent as renewables hit record
LONDON (Reuters) - Britain’s greenhouse gas emissions fell 2.5 percent in 2018, dropping for a sixth straight year but more slowly than before, as record output of renewable power ate away at coal-fired generation, government data showed on Thursday.





Analysis: UK carbon emissions in 2017 fell to levels last seen in 1890
Carbon Brief analysis shows the UK’s CO2 emissions from fossil fuels fell by 2.6% in 2017, driven by a 19% decline in coal use.
This follows on the heels of a larger 5.8% drop in CO2 in 2016, which saw a record 52% drop in coal use. The UK’s total CO2 emissions are currently 38% below 1990 levels and are now as low as emissions were back in 1890.



They’re also targeting British people who recycle and do a lot more than people in many other countries.
All they’re doing is pissing off the wrong people.