[Livia]

I'm looking at the report for Anti-Semitism in the UK for 2018, the most recent one I have... the word Farage does not appear in it.

[Cherie]

Have you voted Labour under Corbyn 2TS?

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Have you voted Labour under Corbyn 2TS?

no, I'm usually a labour voter but just can't

[Beso]

And ofcom did not even look into this....


This is a fake news story, made up by someone.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

no, I'm usually a labour voter but just can't

fair dues...

I have just had some pamphlets come through with the post

Lib Dems and Brexit Party


Nothing from Change UK.... I think they are going to flop as they just aren't getting their message out

[Twosugars]

voting change uk btw

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Trump ally and Brexit leader Nigel Farage says there’s something Americans should worry about more than Russian meddling: Jews.


this was said by a person at Newsweek magazine



you said

Originally Posted by Twosugars View Post
"there’s something Americans should worry about more than Russian meddling: Jews"

that's how
now you explain why would he say that?

here is the link: https://www.newsweek.com/trump-russi...-brexit-698486

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he never said that, Newsweek did


its wrong

https://eutoday.net/news/politics/20...about-the-jews
that's where I quoted from
so you saying the first line of his quote is actually from the newsweek coverage? ok
well spotted and corrected

the fact remains the convo happened, there is a recording on youtube, news outlets also quote and include that
as you'll see from the antisemitism report his way of discussing the jewish lobby was the problem, as the board of deputies said: it “crossed
the line into well-known antisemitic tropes”. Which is the topic of this thread.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Livia

I'm looking at the report for Anti-Semitism in the UK for 2018, the most recent one I have... the word Farage does not appear in it.

Again.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Livia

I'm looking at the report for Anti-Semitism in the UK for 2018, the most recent one I have... the word Farage does not appear in it.

it happened in nov 2017
but his latest musings on antisemitic conspiracy theories on infowars should make it in 2019 if board of deputies statement is anything to go by

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Cherie

fair dues...

I have just had some pamphlets come through with the post

Lib Dems and Brexit Party


Nothing from Change UK.... I think they are going to flop as they just aren't getting their message out

they are a new outfit, maybe the money is tight and they target things sparingly? Idk

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Livia

Again.

excuse me? are you actually using it as an argument he is not in there every year? geez
I'm not reponsible for when and how he strays into antisemitism
blame him he's not like a clockwork

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

https://eutoday.net/news/politics/20...about-the-jews
that's where I quoted from
so you saying the first line of his quote is actually from the newsweek coverage? ok
well spotted and corrected

the fact remains the convo happened, there is a recording on youtube, news outlets also quote and include that
as you'll see from the antisemitism report his way of discussing the jewish lobby was the problem, as the board of deputies said: it “crossed
the line into well-known antisemitic tropes”. Which is the topic of this thread.

yes you took a misquote from a dubious source that lifted it from a newsweek article

this is how lies spread

he never said it and all the whole thread is just speculation about what he might have meant


its nothing more than gossip

[Livia]

And while we're scrabbling round trying to find some kind of provenance for these comments... let's remember this, and the scale of this:

JTA — A Jewish advocacy group in London has accused the Labour Party of “endemic anti-Jewish behavior” and asked the government to investigate.

The report by the Labour Against Antisemitism group contains “15,000 screenshots taken from hundreds of Labour members ‘and officials’ promoting anti-Semitic views.” It was was submitted to the British Equality and Human Rights Commission and seeks a “full-scale antisemitism probe.”

Jewish groups have accused the party’s leftist leader, Jeremy Corbyn, of overseeing a massive surge in anti-Semitism within the party once considered the natural home of British Jewry.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/jewish...anti-semitism/

[Beso]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

yes you took a misquote from a dubious source that lifted it from a newsweek article

this is how lies spread

he never said it and all the whole thread is just speculation about what he might have meant


its nothing more than gossip

Well said.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

yes you took a misquote from a dubious source that lifted it from a newsweek article

this is how lies spread

he never said it and all the whole thread is just speculation about what he might have meant


its nothing more than gossip

it is something that was serious enough to feature in the antisemitism report and be commented on widely, including a warning from the board of deputies.
if you don't like that take it up with them.

[Livia]

Do we have a link to the antisemitism report? Which one is it? Because Jewish groups tend to produce their own.....

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Livia

And while we're scrabbling round trying to find some kind of provenance for these comments... let's remember this, and the scale of this:

JTA — A Jewish advocacy group in London has accused the Labour Party of “endemic anti-Jewish behavior” and asked the government to investigate.

The report by the Labour Against Antisemitism group contains “15,000 screenshots taken from hundreds of Labour members ‘and officials’ promoting anti-Semitic views.” It was was submitted to the British Equality and Human Rights Commission and seeks a “full-scale antisemitism probe.”

Jewish groups have accused the party’s leftist leader, Jeremy Corbyn, of overseeing a massive surge in anti-Semitism within the party once considered the natural home of British Jewry.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/jewish...anti-semitism/

Yes.
This thread however is about Farage.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Livia

Do we have a link to the antisemitism report? Which one is it? Because Jewish groups tend to produce their own.....

It is produced by CST, a Jewish group. You'll find the link under the quote in my post.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Yes.
This thread however is about Farage.

clearly it isnt

[Twosugars]

The Jewish Chronicle on Farage's Infowars interviews


https://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/n...-show-1.483803

Nigel Farage accused of using antisemitic 'code words' on conspiracy theorist Alex Jones' show
The Brexit Party founder talked about 'globalists' and a 'new world order'

Nigel Farage has been accused of using antisemitic "code words" while appearing on the talkshow of American extremist conspiracy theorist Alex Jones.

Mr Farage appeared at least six times with Mr Jones - whose claims include that the Sandy Hook shooting is fake - and the pair used phrases and themes associated with the conspiracy theory that Jewish financiers are behind a plot to replace nation states with a global government.

During the appearances, between 2009 and last year, the former UKIP leader was found by The Guardian to have used the word “Globalists” and the phrase "New World Order", as well as suggesting members of the annual Bilderberg conference were plotting global domination.

As recently as April 2018, Mr Farage, who is now leading the Brexit Party in this month’s European elections, told Mr Jones the EU was “the prototype for the new world order”.

He also claimed “globalists have wanted to have some form of conflict with Russia as an argument for us all to surrender our national sovereignty and give it up to a higher global level”.

Antisemitism watchdog the Community Security Trust said Mr Farage's language were "familiar code words for antisemitic conspiracy theories".

A CST spokesperson called Mr Jones “a notorious conspiracy theorist who should be beyond the pale for any mainstream politician”.

“Furthermore, for Jones’s conspiracy-minded audience, Farage’s references to ‘globalists’ and ‘new world order’ will be taken as familiar code words for antisemitic conspiracy theories,” they added.

A spokesman for the Board of Deputies said: “It is vital that our politicians distance themselves from conspiracy theories and conspiracy theorists, including those who trade in antisemitic tropes.

"We would call on Nigel Farage to repudiate these ideas and to commit not to dignify oddball nasties like Alex Jones with his presence again.”

Asked at Tuesday’s Brexit Party press conference about his appearances on Mr Jones’s Infowars how, Mr Farage said: "I've done a huge amount of global media, including Chinese state media.

"As far as the Infowars site is concerned I’ve done it every couple of years. I know Jones is accused of conspiracy theories & there may be some truth of that. I have never been a conspiracy theorist.”

On Sunday, it emerged two senior members of Mr Farage’s Brexit Party were still directors – despite supposedly resigning after offensive social media messages were exposed.

The Guardian reported ex-party leader Catherine Blaiklock, who resigned after calling Islam "incompatible with liberal democracy", and Michael McGough, who resigned after saying, among other things, that Ed and David Miliband and Peter Mandelson had “shallow UK roots”, were still listed as directors.

Ms Blaiklock also retweeted far-right messages, including a reference to "white genocie" by a former BNP activist.

The CST commented here so I'd expect this will be included in their 2019 antisemitism report.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

voting change uk btw

uk needs some change definitely, an all new parliament, new fresh political parties

it would do the uk good to start over new

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

uk needs some change definitely, an all new parliament, new fresh political parties

it would do the uk good to start over new

Thanks Nicky, agreed.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

uk needs some change definitely, an all new parliament, new fresh political parties

it would do the uk good to start over new

Yes and that is what my Brexit party leaflet said

"We need to change politics for good, lets put the principles of Trust, Honesty and Integrity at the heart of our Democracy"


Welcome aboard Nicky

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Yes and that is what my Brexit party leaflet said

"We need to change politics for good, lets put the principles of Trust, Honesty and Integrity at the heart of our Democracy"


Welcome aboard Nicky

i was more talking about changes against brexit


and redemption for the UK, more effort from you guys towards the EU


no longer thinking like ur an empire (which you guys aren't for a long time anymore) but working together for a strong europe, where all of us can happily live in

[Tom4784]

If you're going to take a stance against anti-semitism (A worthy stance indeed) make sure you aren't picking and choosing what anti-semitism is okay depending on who is spouting it.