[Shaun]

I've said it in here before but we need to take it more seriously. Having Mel Giedroyc run around for an hour interviewing musical dullards like Mollie King whilst making crude jokes and allowing Mans Zelmerlow to flex his ego a bit more is just doing nothing for our musical reputation.

We distance our pop from Europe because we see it as beneath us, we just stick to a few big cities whenever our artists go out on tours (Paris, Berlin, Barcelona, Rome, nowhere else).

We need a complete attitude overhaul but it won't happen because we're little Britain and we find it easier to just throw our dummy out of the pram and say "it must be Europe that's in the wrong". Nah. We just send crap that even we don't want to listen to.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Shaun

I've said it in here before but we need to take it more seriously. Having Mel Giedroyc run around for an hour interviewing musical dullards like Mollie King whilst making crude jokes and allowing Mans Zelmerlow to flex his ego a bit more is just doing nothing for our musical reputation.

We distance our pop from Europe because we see it as beneath us, we just stick to a few big cities whenever our artists go out on tours (Paris, Berlin, Barcelona, Rome, nowhere else).

We need a complete attitude overhaul but it won't happen because we're little Britain and we find it easier to just throw our dummy out of the pram and say "it must be Europe that's in the wrong". Nah. We just send crap that even we don't want to listen to.

They need to send credible artists. There are many in the UK.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

They need to send credible artists. There are many in the UK.

Who would Do it though really?

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

Who would Do it though really?

Adele could win the whole thing. But admittedly she wouldn't do it.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Adele could win the whole thing. But admittedly she wouldn't do it.

I think Shaun made a great point tbf, we keep sending duds. The best we have sent in years was Lucie and she did fine in the jury vote.

Adele would probably be awesome but she'd never do it and I can't think of anyone who would.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

I think Shaun made a great point tbf, we keep sending duds. The best we have sent in years was Lucie and she did fine in the jury vote.

Adele would probably be awesome but she'd never do it and I can't think of anyone who would.

Ed Sheeran maybe ? He would be popular.

[Shaun]

I don't think we need to send someone of the calibre of Adele, Ed Sheeran, Sam Smith, etc because they're all already hugely successful. Same reason you don't get Sweden sending Zara Larsson and Robyn, or Norway sending Sigrid.

But I think if the BBC are going to continue to hold the threshold on who we send, then tying it in with the annual "BBC Sound of...." lists they come up with would be a great gateway for the pop musicians we are supposedly so keen to promote. The only problem here is that "Sound Of..." also promotes other countries' acts (Billie Eilish, Sigrid, ROSALIA, ALMA in the past 2 years).

If burgeoning popstars turn it down and refuse to perform for 200+ million potential listeners then that's their problem. I just wonder if we even offer the likes of recent British popstars like RAYE, Charli XCX, Jack Garratt, Rag n Bone Man, Dua Lipa, Stefflon Don etc. the chance? Or just take the easy route and assemble some nobodies that were in a musical once.

[Vanessa]

Dua Lipa would be interesting, I think.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Shaun

I've said it in here before but we need to take it more seriously. Having Mel Giedroyc run around for an hour interviewing musical dullards like Mollie King whilst making crude jokes and allowing Mans Zelmerlow to flex his ego a bit more is just doing nothing for our musical reputation.

We distance our pop from Europe because we see it as beneath us, we just stick to a few big cities whenever our artists go out on tours (Paris, Berlin, Barcelona, Rome, nowhere else).

We need a complete attitude overhaul but it won't happen because we're little Britain and we find it easier to just throw our dummy out of the pram and say "it must be Europe that's in the wrong". Nah. We just send crap that even we don't want to listen to.

[Amy Jade]

That's why people refusing to do it make me laugh.

Even if you lose your song is heard by 100's of millions of people!

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

That's why people refusing to do it make me laugh.

Even if you lose your song is heard by 100's of millions of people!

Exactly.

[Liam-]

Norway lost and they’re storming the British charts, Eurovision is the biggest music audience in the world, it’s a false economy to refuse doing it

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Norway lost and they’re storming the British charts, Eurovision is the biggest music audience in the world, it’s a false economy to refuse doing it

Norway song has to be one of the best the show has ever had. Can't stop listening to it. And dancing

[Morgan.]

I remember when we nearly sent Rita Ora but she didn’t want to do it in fear of it ruining her career and she didn’t want to end up on Splash

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Blurryface

I remember when we nearly sent Rita Ora but she didn’t want to do it in fear of it ruining her career and she didn’t want to end up on Splash

Yet she did X Factor...

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Norway song has to be one of the best the show has ever had. Can't stop listening to it. And dancing

It was really good.
Glad the public saw that.

[Nicky91]

Norway's song is a copy of saara aalto monsters cannot believe people falling for that

[Black Dagger]

****ing bore off.

[Nicky91]

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbi...source=Twitter

exactly Michael that vile brexit is the reason for your last place

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

Norway's song is a copy of saara aalto monsters cannot believe people falling for that

I like the bits where they're singing in the sami dialect. All three of them have amazing voices.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

It was really good.
Glad the public saw that.

They 291 points from the public. Shame the jury let thsm down, I.think it should have won. This or Soldi.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Black Dagger

****ing bore off.

[Calderyon]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Norway song has to be one of the best the show has ever had. Can't stop listening to it. And dancing

It's good, but the hoiling ruins it somewhat.

[Black Dagger]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbi...source=Twitter

exactly Michael that vile brexit is the reason for your last place

No. The fact he had a weak song and an unmemorable performance coming just after the televote winner and before Iceland was his downfall.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Black Dagger

No. The fact he had a weak song and an unmemorable performance coming just after the televote winner and before Iceland was his downfall.

his performance wasn't that bad, my parents liked it too