[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Cherie

All those 'remainers' who blocked Mrs Mays deal 3 times should hang their heads

The majority party put the deal forward, and leavers/remainers voted for the deal, and leavers/remainers voted against it. Why are remainers to blame?

[lime]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

doesn't matter, the eu are using it to reference the good friday agreement which is direct political interference

What???Do you know how many countries are signed up as guarentors of the GFA?Is that political interference?

I give up.If people can't be arsed to understand how important the backstop is...and most importantly GFA..What is the point in any further talks

[arista]

[arista]

Originally Posted by lime

Crazy leaving without a plan

Sure
you can say that.

[bots]

Originally Posted by lime

What???Do you know how many countries are signed up as guarentors of the GFA?Is that political interference?

I give up.If people can't be arsed to understand how important the backstop is...and most importantly GFA..What is the point in any further talks

with respect, the good friday agreement is a matter between Ireland and the UK. The EU are expressly forbidden from involvement in member states political affairs, no if's no but's, it is an absolute

[arista]

[lime]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

with respect, the good friday agreement is a matter between Ireland and the UK. The EU are expressly forbidden from involvement in member states political affairs, no if's no but's, it is an absolute

Oh dear.That's wholly untrue.GFA is guarented not just between ROI and Uk..and lets face it ..Uk are now renaging on it.The GFA was not a deal that we on this island came to...It came about because of other nations..

[lime]

Originally Posted by arista

Sure
you can say that.

[user104658]

Funny thought: if we crashed out with no deal and then quietly rejoined a full customs union two months later... I bet the vast majority of Brexit voters wouldn't even ****ing notice

You could ask them in 2 years time and they'd be like "Yassss we won we won no deal Brexit rule Britannia"

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

The majority party put the deal forward, and leavers/remainers voted for the deal, and leavers/remainers voted against it. Why are remainers to blame?

They are partly to blame, as they hung back in the hope of getting into power, you expect leavers not to vote for the deal, but remainers? they should have got behind it come what may

[bots]

Originally Posted by lime

Oh dear.That's wholly untrue.GFA is guarented not just between ROI and Uk..and lets face it ..Uk are now renaging on it.The GFA was not a deal that we on this island came to...It came about because of other nations..

unfortunately you have completely missed the point

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Funny thought: if we crashed out with no deal and then quietly rejoined a full customs union two months later... I bet the vast majority of Brexit voters wouldn't even ****ing notice

You could ask them in 2 years time and they'd be like "Yassss we won we won no deal Brexit rule Britannia"

For most brexiters at this point, it's just about 'winning' and 'sticking it to the libs'.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Cherie

They are partly to blame, as they hung back in the hope of getting into power, you expect leavers not to vote for the deal, but remainers? they should have got behind it come what may

I don't expect anything, it's just a fact that both leavers and remainers voted for and against the deal, so it's really not just remainers at fault.

It's madness that fault is even used, everyone knows there is no deal out there as good as we already have, so politicians trying to protect their constituents aren't really at fault for anything, and history will view everyone who voted for and tried to force this bs through, very badly.

The promises were made by leave; the easiest deal in the history of the world, everyone will be begging us for a deal, we'll be able to pick and choose what we want etc. All bull, all completely ignored by leavers that live in a fantasy world of WW2 iconography.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

They are partly to blame, as they hung back in the hope of getting into power, you expect leavers not to vote for the deal, but remainers? they should have got behind it come what may

Or because they thought the deal was crap. Didn't she basically go back each time with the same ****ing 'deal' and expect a different result? Pretty much the definition of insanity that one..can't really say they should have got behind a deal they disagreed with just so some idiot did not come along thinking nodeal was a brilliant plan..

Sick of hearing it all now though realy. Its just a huge mess, and should never ever have happened the way it did. No vote should ever have happened until there were plans, proper plans, for either result. The way it happened is just embarassing, tbh. As is the way it has been 'handled' since.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Or because they thought the deal was crap. Didn't she basically go back each time with the same ****ing 'deal' and expect a different result? Pretty much the definition of insanity that one..can't really say they should have got behind a deal they disagreed with just so some idiot did not come along thinking nodeal was a brilliant plan..

Sick of hearing it all now though realy. Its just a huge mess, and should never ever have happened the way it did. No vote should ever have happened until there were plans, proper plans, for either result. The way it happened is just embarassing, tbh. As is the way it has been 'handled' since.

The crap deal is still better than crashing out, and it protected the border in Ireland so

I agree with the rest of your statement, the people were never supposed to vote leave, and I blame Boris for getting on board the leave bus for tipping the balance in leaves favour

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by lime

I understand when you you say that it isn't down to the opposition to help the goverment..

So you guys can carry on arguing against said opposition ..

Where does leave us Irish?You all fight for the sake of fighting .Shamefull.The WA was a great deal

I don't disagree lime.

I've said the last twice Labour should have supported May's agreement.
I was disappointed they didn't.

It's for me, the best on the table st present if we have to leave.

My point was the government had the numbers to pass it, with only the Cons and DUP.
It shouldn't be down to expecting opposition Parties votes.

Yes however. I think Labour should have supported it.
It wasn't just Labour who didn't vote for it though.
SNP, Paid Cymru , Lib Dems. The Green and most Independents didn't too.

I agree with you, it is the best thing there now that could and should be tried again.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

For most brexiters at this point, it's just about 'winning' and 'sticking it to the libs'.

Exactly, you could give them No Deal Brexit and they'd celebrate, then the next week be like "And now we have used our strong no deal position to secure wonderful trade agreement with the EU! It allows lower customs charges, and it'll be easier for you to go on holiday..." and they'd be pleased as punch.

[The Slim Reaper]

Brexiteers represented by the far right in London today. Again.

[lime]

Originally Posted by Cherie

The crap deal is still better than crashing out, and it protected the border in Ireland so

I agree with the rest of your statement, the people were never supposed to vote leave, and I blame Boris for getting on board the leave bus for tipping the balance in leaves favour

it amazes me when WA is called a crap deal

[lime]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I don't disagree lime.

I've said the last twice Labour should have supported May's agreement.
I was disappointed they didn't.

It's for me, the best on the table st present if we have to leave.

My point was the government had the numbers to pass it, with only the Cons and DUP.
It shouldn't be down to expecting opposition Parties votes.

Yes however. I think Labour should have supported it.
It wasn't just Labour who didn't vote for it though.
SNP, Paid Cymru , Lib Dems. The Green and most Independents didn't too.

I agree with you, it is the best thing there now that could and should be tried again.

[Twosugars]

Lord MacDonald, the former director of public prosecutions, said if Johnson refused to request an extension he could be found in contempt of court.

“A refusal in the face of that would amount to contempt of court, which could find that person in prison,” MacDonald told Sky News. “He won’t get any co-operation, apart from the fanatics around him … the attorney general won’t sit there quietly while this happens.”

The Scottish Conservative MSP Adam Tomkins, a former law professor, said Johnson should resign rather than break the law by forcing through a no-deal Brexit.

In a series of tweets, Tomkins said Johnson had only one option if he refused to ask for an extension: resign. “Irrespective of what we think about Brexit, or the PM, surely we can all agree on one fundamental principle: the government is bound to obey the law,” he said.
The Guardian

Lock him up!

[arista]

[Alf]

Get em' Boris

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes Like Blair , was.

...I’m not really sure what your point is in mentioning Blair, Arista...no one can rewrite history in anything Blair did in his time in power but the entitlement of peace times for those in Northern Ireland...both now and in the future..?...has not yet been written and Boris Johnson is despicable beyond comprehension for disregarding so many lives in his personal quest for ‘if anyone can do it Donald, I can..’...it’s nothing more than a political game to him, he disgusts me...

[joeysteele]

Just how pathetic does he look too with that truly awful Leadsom woman saying.
This Con party now will put a candidate against the Speaker..
Which no PM or government even thought about before.

Anyone he sees as a dissenting voice to his madness and demands, will be threatened and dispensed with.

This is a PM, really that anyone could respect, surely only by extremely militant hardliners.
He is as Ammi strongly points out despicable beyond comprehension.

Power mad he is, and dangerously so too.