[Oliver_W]

Tbh I don't think zero hours contracts should be banned - supply teachers and bank nurses are basically on them, as are other agency workers.

[arista]

The PM is Live
in parliament in PMQ's

[arista]

First Question is about Fracking
and how Labour is going to BAN it..........................

The PM will have to match that?

[Denver]

I dont get why people want Lib Dems in when they said they will end democracy

[arista]

Originally Posted by WickedSkengMan

I dont get why people want Lib Dems in when they said they will end democracy

Yes they are taking a bigger gamble

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by WickedSkengMan

I dont get why people want Lib Dems in when they said they will end democracy

What on earth are you on about? I don't like the lib dems, but this is BS

[Denver]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

What on earth are you on about? I don't like the lib dems, but this is BS

They have said f they get in charge they will cancel Brexit without informing the public therefore meaning 52% of the people who voted will be told your vote s not accepted unless its what we want

[The Slim Reaper]

[Denver]

i dnt see how people expect labour to get people out of poverty when they have said they will borrow excessive amounts inside f trying to make money

[arista]

"Handing the NHS to Trump"

Thats not true
Slim.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by WickedSkengMan

They have said f they get in charge they will cancel Brexit without informing the public therefore meaning 52% of the people who voted will be told your vote s not accepted unless its what we want

Just the fact you're quoting them telling us, means they have informed the public, but that's not cancelling democracy in any way. The referendum was advisory, not law.

Boris Johnson has tried many times since becoming pm, to actually try and subvert a democratically elected parliament, but still, those lib dems ay?

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by arista

"Handing the NHS to Trump"

Thats not true
Slim.

You know it is if you're honest with yourself. We'll be without any trade deals and desperate. BJ won't want to look like he screwed the pooch, so he'll make a deal with the US a priority.

The US will pull our pants down and take everything they want, because we'll have no other option.

[Denver]

If you send something to the public vote then you do what the public say whether you agree or not,

I expect the tories to gain a fair bit and labour to lose seats

[Denver]

The Lib Dems are ore dangerous to labour then the Brexit party is to the tories

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by WickedSkengMan

If you send something to the public vote then you do what the public say whether you agree or not,

I expect the tories to gain a fair bit and labour to lose seats

That's not advisory means. We don't need to force harm on ourselves for ideological stupidity.

[The Slim Reaper]

What voting for Johnson actually means.

A man sacked twice for lying and doesn't believe honesty is necessary.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by WickedSkengMan

If you send something to the public vote then you do what the public say whether you agree or not,

I expect the tories to gain a fair bit and labour to lose seats

[arista]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

You know it is if you're honest with yourself. We'll be without any trade deals and desperate. BJ won't want to look like he screwed the pooch, so he'll make a deal with the US a priority.

The US will pull our pants down and take everything they want, because we'll have no other option.

We have to see.
Brexit has to happen first

[Denver]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

That's not advisory means. We don't need to force harm on ourselves for ideological stupidity.

if they cancel the votes then the country will genuinely become a war zone, there will be riots and fighting and tbh lack of care

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by arista

We have to see.
Brexit has to happen first

Tory representatives have already been having meetings with American pharmaceutical companies, it’s not that much of a stretch to believe that the next step is handing parts of the NHS to the US, privatised healthcare will kill millions in this country and it’ll be on the Tories hands.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by arista

We have to see.
Brexit has to happen first

It's too late by then and you know it. In one post you've gone from "you are wrong" to "we have to see".

You know full well what will happen.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by WickedSkengMan

if they cancel the votes then the country will genuinely become a war zone, there will be riots and fighting and tbh lack of care

If you ask someone for advice, and they give you that advice, but you choose to ignore it, do they have the right to come round your house and smash all your stuff up?

To be clear, I don't think we should just revoke without a peoples vote but your logic is shaky.

You think there won't be riots when people are losing their jobs or can't get medical treatment?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Tory representatives have already been having meetings with American pharmaceutical companies, it’s not that much of a stretch to believe that the next step is handing parts of the NHS to the US, privatised healthcare will kill millions in this country and it’ll be on the Tories hands.

I work in a 3rd sector "healthcare adjacent" role that involves having a quite in-depth knowledge of which service providers are operating out of which hospitals and clinics.

Privatisation is already happening right under our noses.

[edited to add] In England and Wales that is, thankfully (for now) the structure of the Scottish NHS is still mostly intact.

Which is why in scotland -whether one wants independence or not-, everyone should continue to vote SNP. Devolution is providing a massive safety net.

[Oliver_W]

Isn't American health insurance slightly cheaper than National Insurance, on average? If NI were slashed it might be worth it.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Isn't American health insurance slightly cheaper than National Insurance, on average? If NI were slashed it might be worth it.

No. Americans pay the most per capita of any country in the west, and their insurance system still leaves them with huge medical bills even if they have that insurance.

Take the Ariana bombing event; In America, in the days following that attack the insurance companies would have saddled the grieving families with hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of medical debt.

They also have max amounts; so if you're suffering a long term illness like cancer, you can have your care taken away because your insurance provider won't pay any more money for your treatment.