[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Swan

usually spat with venom

Why lie?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by smudgie

Yes, I don’t see the point.
I have never felt the urge to have to tell anyone in passing I am a woman, never mind yet another label, a cis woman.

This is an odd comment to make.

Who said you have to introduce yourself as a woman or cis woman? The term woman already exists and you never took issue with that one?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

This is an odd comment to make.

Who said you have to introduce yourself as a woman or cis woman? The term woman already exists and you never took issue with that one?

Don't come for Mama Smudgie

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Don't come for Mama Smudgie

Too late!

*holds her in headlock*

[Swan]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Why lie?

Lie? No there is definitely some kind of weird resentment from some.

[Ant.]

Originally Posted by Swan

Lie? No there is definitely some kind of weird resentment from some.

who

[Swan]

Originally Posted by Ant.

who

Jessica

And i remember i made a comment about something on here a while back, and it was all 'typical cis white male' bs.

[montblanc]

it's literally a three letter word omg

[Swan]

Originally Posted by montblanc

it's literally a three letter word omg

I know, if people actually read my OP they'll see i'm not arsed if people wanna call me cis, whatever who cares. I made this thread wanting to explore how some of the other terms can legitimately work, like genderfluid for example. But of course people will jump on the smallest thing and see it as someone 'snowflaking' or 'playing the victim'..Seriously call me cis all you like, it ha no baring whatsoever.

[Ant.]

Originally Posted by Swan

Jessica

And i remember i made a comment about something on here a while back, and it was all 'typical cis white male' bs.

can you find the comment(s) as to where she refers to you as "cis", though? She used it a few times, yes, but never to specifically refer to you

And can you explain how it was "spat with venom"?

[Ant.]

Originally Posted by Swan

I know, if people actually read my OP they'll see i'm not arsed if people wanna call me cis, whatever who cares. I made this thread wanting to explore how some of the other terms can legitimately work, like genderfluid for example. But of course people will jump on the smallest thing and see it as someone 'snowflaking' or 'playing the victim'..Seriously call me cis all you like, it ha no baring whatsoever.

but you seem arsed by people using the other terms you linked to in the OP...

[Josy]

Originally Posted by montblanc

it's literally a three letter word omg

A 3 letter word that's completely pointless and just further adds to labelling which is odd since so many profess to be so against any kind of labelling these days.

I was born a woman and don't see the need to now describe myself in any way as a 'cis' woman. I'm a woman end of.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Swan

I know, if people actually read my OP they'll see i'm not arsed if people wanna call me cis, whatever who cares. I made this thread wanting to explore how some of the other terms can legitimately work, like genderfluid for example. But of course people will jump on the smallest thing and see it as someone 'snowflaking' or 'playing the victim'..Seriously call me cis all you like, it ha no baring whatsoever.

lol no-one takes stuff like "genderfluid" seriously, it's fine.

But as others have said, cis is a descriptor. Women and transwomen are different, and in some cases people will only be referring to one of these - "cis women's issues" are different to "transwomen's issues", while "women's issues" can refer to both.

[Ant.]

Originally Posted by Josy

A 3 letter word that's completely pointless and just further adds to labelling which is odd since so many profess to be so against any kind of labelling these days.

I was born a woman and don't see the need to now describe myself in any way as a 'cis' woman. I'm a woman end of.

you're right!! you don't need to. but it's just an shorter way to say "born a woman". if you don't wanna call yourself "cis" that's chill it's just a new-coined term that some people don't mind being called

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Ant.

you're right!! you don't need to. but it's just an shorter way to say "born a woman". if you don't wanna call yourself "cis" that's chill it's just a new-coined term that some people don't mind being called

And that's great that you can see it both ways and are fine with that, if only others thought the same way.

[Morgan.]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

lol no-one takes stuff like "genderfluid" seriously, it's fine.

But as others have said, cis is a descriptor. Women and transwomen are different, and in some cases people will only be referring to one of these - "cis women's issues" are different to "transwomen's issues", while "women's issues" can refer to both.

Are you done being edgy yet lmao

[Barry.]

Didn't know cis was that.

[Ant.]

Originally Posted by Josy

And that's great that you can see it both ways and are fine with that, if only others thought the same way.

tbf i refer to (some of) Oliver's point - i don't really see people 'forcing' cis as a label. just as a descriptor. like i don't really see anyone 'forcing' the label of 'cis' on people and it's only really brought up to compare and contrast issues between people who are trans and people who were born in the body they're comfortable with. i don't actively see people walking around saying "so you're a cis man?" or the whatnot. but my experience isn't universal

on the contrary i've seen some people (who would probably be against that notion) tell bisexual people that they're either "gay" or "straight" and can't be both - trying to force a label which doesn't correlate to their identity. Point being, it's a shame that people can't respect labels no matter the context or how unheard of the label is

[Swan]

Originally Posted by Ant.

but you seem arsed by people using the other terms you linked to in the OP...

Oh wow you're really digging aren't you lol. No i just wonder how something like gender fluid (which is pretty ridiculous imo) could even work in the real world?

I know stuff like that words in the uni/colleges/safe spaces bubble, but is far from practical in the real word, and is open to so many people abusing genderfluid 'ness;

[Ant.]

Originally Posted by Swan

Oh wow you're really digging aren't you lol. No i just wonder how something like gender fluid (which is pretty ridiculous imo) could even work in the real world?

I know stuff like that words in the uni/colleges/safe spaces bubble, but is far from practical in the real word, and is open to some many people abusing genderfluid 'ness;

digging? how?

surely you should lead with questions such as "how would the term 'gender fluid' work in the real world?" rather than just saying "some terms" are complete overkill. I genuinely don't understand your OP. You say you're called cis, you looked it up, and found some terms which are 'perfectly reasonable' and some which are 'complete overkill'. how is anyone meant to understand what you created the thread for if that's your lead

[Swan]

Originally Posted by Ant.

digging? how?

surely you should lead with questions such as "how would the term 'gender fluid' work in the real world?" rather than just saying "some terms" are complete overkill. I genuinely don't understand your OP. You say you're called cis, you looked it up, and found some terms which are 'perfectly reasonable' and some which are 'complete overkill'. how is anyone meant to understand what you created the thread for if that's your lead

Well because the whole being labelled cis thing is what sparked my curiosity, i gave my thread some back story as to why i created the thread. I gave some context, i thought some might appreciate that more, apologies if you didn't

[Ant.]

Originally Posted by Swan

Well because the whole being labelled cis thing is what sparked my curiosity, i gave my thread some back story as to why i created the thread. I gave some context, i thought some might appreciate that more, apologies if you didn't

I do appreciate the context.

But where is the purpose in the OP? That is what I was asking, apologies if that wasn't clear

[Ant.]

Originally Posted by Ant.

can you find the comment(s) as to where she refers to you as "cis", though? She used it a few times, yes, but never to specifically refer to you

And can you explain how it was "spat with venom"?

are u gonna reply to this or

[Swan]

Originally Posted by Ant.

are u gonna reply to this or

i can't remember what thread i was in, but it was probably a month or so ago, i'll go through some of my old posts, just for you

[Ant.]

Originally Posted by Swan

i can't remember what thread i was in, but it was probably a month or so ago, i'll go through some of my old posts, just for you

You're too kind