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I would have, but I think clapping can spread the virus from your hands into the atmosphere.
this is up there with 5G nanobots.
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I didn't hear any clapping, personally I think comparing him to NHS workers is vomit inducing.
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Clapping just cause someone’s ill is abit patronising omg
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I didn't hear any clapping, personally I think comparing him to NHS workers is vomit inducing.
Indeed. I'm not wishing him harm (or dead) because he's still a human being, but even if one somehow believes him to be doing a good job lately - no one should forget that the NHS would have been much more robust and better prepared for this if it wasn't for the Tories, and Boris himself. They've underfunded and undermined it for ten years and they've been jeering and clapping the entire time. I personally hope he's having a very long, hard think whilst under NHS care this week.
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Indeed. I'm not wishing him harm (or dead) because he's still a human being, but even if one somehow believes him to be doing a good job lately - no one should forget that the NHS would have been much more robust and better prepared for this if it wasn't for the Tories, and Boris himself. They've underfunded and undermined it for ten years and they've been jeering and clapping the entire time. I personally hope he's having a very long, hard think whilst under NHS care this week.
Now THAT'S worthy of applause!!
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Indeed. I'm not wishing him harm (or dead) because he's still a human being, but even if one somehow believes him to be doing a good job lately - no one should forget that the NHS would have been much more robust and better prepared for this if it wasn't for the Tories, and Boris himself. They've underfunded and undermined it for ten years and they've been jeering and clapping the entire time. I personally hope he's having a very long, hard think whilst under NHS care this week.
Exactly my thoughts, I don’t want anyone to die from this, unfortunately he disagreed.
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this is up there with 5G nanobots.
Just wait until your hands start cracking from washing them constantly, the virus will seep into the open sores easier ...


I hope you moisturise after each wash TS.

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Just wait until your hands start cracking from washing them constantly, the virus will see pinto the open sores easier ...





I hope you moisturise after each wash TS.
I use fairy liquid 'cos those old adverts told me it would keep my hands nice and soft

Now haaands free from Covid can feel soft as your faaace... With miiild greeeeen... Fairy Liquid.



In all seriousness though, yes dry/cracked hands are vulnerable to infection. But clapping your hands isn't going to puff clouds of virus into the atmosphere...
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I’ll clap for Smithy tbh
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Also my hands are baby soft because I've never done a day's manual labour in my life .

Well, I did hang a door last week. One of my proudest moments to be quite honest. DIY SOS right here.
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I use fairy liquid 'cos those old adverts told me it would keep my hands nice and soft

Now haaands free from Covid can feel soft as your faaace... With miiild greeeeen... Fairy Liquid.



In all seriousness though, yes dry/cracked hands are vulnerable to infection. But clapping your hands isn't going to puff clouds of virus into the atmosphere...


What about dry flakey hands people when they remove thier gloves like a two day old sock when it's removed from a builders foot..you can see all the dust and flaked skin puffing from the sock if you turn it inside out for the third days wear.

Why would a glove be different..?

So if the glove stores dried lakes off skin like the sock does...who's to say clapping dry hands doesn't release small particles of skin covered in corona snot into the wind?..all that piling down from tower blocks into the elderly in the bottom flats.

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Indeed. I'm not wishing him harm (or dead) because he's still a human being, but even if one somehow believes him to be doing a good job lately - no one should forget that the NHS would have been much more robust and better prepared for this if it wasn't for the Tories, and Boris himself. They've underfunded and undermined it for ten years and they've been jeering and clapping the entire time. I personally hope he's having a very long, hard think whilst under NHS care this week.
It's simply not true. The NHS is so badly run no matter who the government is it's always one step away from a crisis. Its not fit for purpose and pretending it's the Tory government fault is part of the problem.
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It's simply not true. The NHS is so badly run no matter who the government is it's always one step away from a crisis. Its not fit for purpose and pretending it's the Tory government fault is part of the problem.
Don’t remember seeing other parties cheering when they won a vote not to give NHS staff a pay rise...
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It's simply not true. The NHS is so badly run no matter who the government is it's always one step away from a crisis. Its not fit for purpose and pretending it's the Tory government fault is part of the problem.
Nope... more misinformation the NHS was self sustaining untill the profitable parts were tendered.
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Indeed. I'm not wishing him harm (or dead) because he's still a human being, but even if one somehow believes him to be doing a good job lately - no one should forget that the NHS would have been much more robust and better prepared for this if it wasn't for the Tories, and Boris himself. They've underfunded and undermined it for ten years and they've been jeering and clapping the entire time. I personally hope he's having a very long, hard think whilst under NHS care this week.
My sentiments exactly
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Also my hands are baby soft because I've never done a day's manual labour in my life .

Well, I did hang a door last week. One of my proudest moments to be quite honest. DIY SOS right here.
Your poor family waiting for the day it topples off and causes damage.
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It's simply not true. The NHS is so badly run no matter who the government is it's always one step away from a crisis. Its not fit for purpose and pretending it's the Tory government fault is part of the problem.
I agree the NHS are not faultless, some of their admin is terribly run and money wasted because of some peoples greed and inability to run it properly,it is a collection of faults not totally a governments, the fat cats at the top of the NHS need to take some responsibility, The NHS is a wonderful thing we have in this country but its not beyond abuse afterall its run by humans.
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Think what you want about the NHS , it's still a million times better than the American health system! .

If you want to know what real greed & profiteers are , just look at the mess America is in with their health care.
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Think what you want about the NHS , it's still a million times better than the American health system! .

If you want to know what real greed & profiteers are , just look at the mess America is in with their health care.
I think we all love the NHS, Im not interested in what America do with thiers, Our doctors and nurses are second to none (most of them) but some of the fat cats are not so wonderful.
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I think we all love the NHS, Im not interested in what America do with thiers, Our doctors and nurses are second to none (most of them) but some of the fat cats are not so wonderful.
Well I'm interested , America is the richest country. Health care should be free. You're talking about the fat cats which yes I agree ,but what about talks of the government privatising the NHS???.

Can you imagine god forbid if we ever ended up like that , having to pay and sort out health insurance. The country would collapse, and more people would die .

As horrific and depressing this pandemic is , hopefully some good can come out of it in protecting our NHS.

Boris being in intensive care should make him realise how important the service is and that it's NOT for sale!. This is a scary time.
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The trouble with the NHS is, look at the funding they got 30 or 40 years ago, look at the funding they get now, then think about the equipment they use now compared to 30 or 40 years ago. The cost of some of the NHS equipment is astronomical. And I think there's a lot of money wasted on prescribing drugs people don't need and on missed appointments.
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That's why more funds and resources are needed for the NHS .

I think the ones who can afford to , should be putting money into helping the NHS instead of wasting money.

Well in an ideal world prescription drugs wouldn't cost so much, but as usual pharmacy companies just want to profit.
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No, I found the clapping to be a pointless gesture in the first place. If you want to help the NHS, stick to the rules of the lockdown, give to charities or funds for the workers or volunteer if you aren't vulnerable. Clapping does little when most NHS workers just want people to stay inside.

I'm not going to clap for someone who leads the party that's helped put the NHS under immense financial strain. I don't wish him harm but I'm not gonna waste my time on pointless gestures. He'll take the credit for the unprecedented things the Tories have done to help but I'm more willing to apply the true credit to the likes of Rishi Sunak.
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Also you should definitely care to learn about the horrors of the US healthcare system, if we aren't careful and critical of the government it could easily become our healthcare system.
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