[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes Lockdown for a year.
is common sense.

M&S Foods
keep us going.

No I don't think we'll be in complete lockdown for a year, but we'll still have some restrictions .

It's also going to take a while for crowds to be allowed again. And people with health conditions will have to still be careful.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes Lockdown for a year.
is common sense.

M&S Foods
keep us going.

It is impossible to do lockdown for a year

[arista]

Originally Posted by WickedSkengMan

It is impossible to do lockdown for a year

But all over the World
it will be that way
Of Course Austria is now trying
a new face mask law
good luck to them.


Adam
while Covid 19 has a hold
Nothing is Impossible.


It's a shock for President Trump
who will soon be top of the World Death list

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Livia

You have to take into account the size of the US population before you can draw any kind of comparison with them.

I've been trying to tell arista that these numbers don't mean that much unless you scale by population size since February. He's not listening, Livia .

Even comparing Spain to Italy for example, Spain was hit harder than it looks at first glance, as they have a population of 40m compared to Italy's 60m.

The US should be "expected" to be 5x Italy/UK because they have 5x the population (not 10x Smithy ) but in part its like comparing apples to oranges... Some of the big, open states will be able to handle it much better because of "natural" social distancing (small population per square mile) whereas if you just take New York City as an example separate to the whole US, the figures are especially harsh. Nearly 6000 deaths in a population of 8 million. Although its a similar situation in London.

[Denver]

The economy has already been destroyed by a short lockdown, a long term one will obliterate the economy

[arista]

Originally Posted by WickedSkengMan

The economy has already been destroyed by a short lockdown, a long term one will obliterate the economy

Yes we will enter a Depression

[arista]

"He's not listening"


I am TS
a enjoy your views

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by WickedSkengMan

The economy has already been destroyed by a short lockdown, a long term one will obliterate the economy

Yes this is why lockdown will not be as long as most seem to think.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kate!

Yes this is why lockdown will not be as long as most seem to think.

So you want more Deaths?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by arista

But all over the World

it will be that way

Its literally impossible, so no, it won't. Most likely there will be close monitoring and shorter "localised" lockdowns.

Some aspects simply can't continue that long without literally killing more people; tragically, there has already been a marked increase in non-covid deaths because people are scared to, or unable to, access medical attention. The press aren't talking about that much, though.

If you extended to a year you would have people going undiagnosed with cancers and other chronic conditions for so long that they would be too late to get treatment. These things all have to be factored in.

[arista]

"The US should be "expected" to be 5x Italy/UK because they have 5x the population (not 10x Smithy ) but in part its like comparing apples to oranges.."

Yes we need Smithy
in Real Time

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by arista

So you want more Deaths?

I never said that Arista. But this can't go on indefinitely. The onus is on the Gov to test like mad.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by arista

So you want more Deaths?

People will start to die of other conditions quite quickly (already happening) because of isolation and lack of access. That will start to increase exponentially after 6 months. And a lockdown that triggers a full economic collapse will kill millions.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Its literally impossible, so no, it won't. Most likely there will be close monitoring and shorter "localised" lockdowns.

Some aspects simply can't continue that long without literally killing more people; tragically, there has already been a marked increase in non-covid deaths because people are scared to, or unable to, access medical attention. The press aren't talking about that much, though.

If you extended to a year you would have people going undiagnosed with cancers and other chronic conditions for so long that they would be too late to get treatment. These things all have to be factored in.

Not in England.


And Yes TS
more will sadly Die
as they can not get the Cancer Treatment.



Covid 19 is a Mega Killer in the World

[arista]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

People will start to die of other conditions quite quickly (already happening) because of isolation and lack of access. That will start to increase exponentially after 6 months. And a lockdown that triggers a full economic collapse will kill millions.

Yes its a Shocking Future
Johnson /Raab are stuck
and can not stop a Depression.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kate!

I never said that Arista. But this can't go on indefinitely. The onus is on the Gov to test like mad.

Of Course
that's why a Year is a good Start



The Government are not building extra Test labs
So Post them to Germany Roche Labs

[Roche initiates global phase III study and
collects data on Actemra’s potential utility
in severe COVID-19 pneumonia patients]

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by arista

Of Course
that's why a Year is a good Start



The Government are not building extra Test labs
So Post them to Germany Roche

[Roche initiates global phase III study and
collects data on Actemra’s potential utility
in severe COVID-19 pneumonia patients]

A year is far too long.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by arista

Of Course
that's why a Year is a good Start



The Government are not building extra Test labs
So Post them to Germany Roche Labs

[Roche initiates global phase III study and
collects data on Actemra’s potential utility
in severe COVID-19 pneumonia patients]

You clearly know nothing then Arista,if you think a year is great for the economy then you need to see a doctor

[arista]

Originally Posted by WickedSkengMan

You clearly know nothing then Arista,if you think a year is great for the economy then you need to see a doctor

No I do not want that all.

But I can Survive a Depression

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kate!

A year is far too long.

But it is saving lives.
So get ready for a UK Depression


Johnson /Raab
are not building big test labs

[user104658]

Originally Posted by arista

Not in England.





And Yes TS

more will sadly Die

as they can not get the Cancer Treatment.







Covid 19 is a Mega Killer in the World

The point is arista, if it goes on too long, more people will die of cancer (and other undiagnosed chronic conditions, strokes, heart attacks, sepsis etc.) than would die of Covid by starting to reduce lockdown measures after the peak.

They have to balance that out and I'm confident that they will.

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

The point is arista, if it goes on too long, more people will die of cancer (and other undiagnosed chronic conditions, strokes, heart attacks, sepsis etc.) than would die of Covid by starting to reduce lockdown measures after the peak.

They have to balance that out and I'm confident that they will.

This.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

The point is arista, if it goes on too long, more people will die of cancer (and other undiagnosed chronic conditions, strokes, heart attacks, sepsis etc.) than would die of Covid by starting to reduce lockdown measures after the peak.

They have to balance that out and I'm confident that they will.

Yes You Are Right
more Cancer people were all waiting to be saved
then Covid 19 changed their future.

They can not "balance it out"
I like your vision- but it is not our sad future

[Denver]

Originally Posted by arista

No I do not want that all.

But I can Survive a Depression

That's selfish though isnt it? Just because you can survive it doesnt mean millions of others can

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kate!

This.

Yes Kate
TS is Correct
but sadly Covid 19
has taken over Wards

Radio4 LIVE right now
its all down to cost

Johnson /Raab
Failed