[Nicky.]

From Daily Star <<< I know its rubbish! lol

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/posts/vie...HER-9-CHOPPED/

Big Brother 9 will be shunted from prime time to a late-night graveyard slot this summer.


Worried Channel 4 chiefs are planning to axe the new series from its usual 9pm peak slot and only screen it after 10pm because of falling ratings.



So the troubled reality show will face its own kitchen nightmare in the form of Gordon Ramsay and Jamie Oliver, as programme chiefs cook up plans to replace BB with programmes featuring the popular telly chefs, combined with a mix of property shows and dramas.

C4’s director of programmes, Julian Bellamy, confirmed that the flagship reality show’s traditional peak-time slot is under threat. Top shows like At Home and Kitchen Nightmares, plus dramas such as City Of Angels and property show Grand Design, have been attracting well over 4m viewers – up to 1.5m more than tuned into BB8 last summer.

Bellamy said: “Exactly where we play Big Brother in the summer has yet to be decided.



“It will depend on the quality and mix of the new programmes coming through.”



But he insisted BB9 will definitely be screened on both C4 and its digital off-shoot E4.



A TV industry insider said even discussing moving BB’s traditional time slot is a clear sign of panic at C4.



He explained: “A couple of years ago Big Brother was such a ratings banker that it would be unthinkable to even discuss such a move. So this is a clear sign that the show’s glory days are behind it.



“The decision to screen Celebrity Hijack, instead of just resting Celeb Big Bro-ther, has proved a disaster.



“It has seriously damaged the brand and there must now be doubts whether Big Brother can recover.



“A switch to 10pm or later would clearly dent the ratings – as the show has so many young fans. It is a worrying time for Channel 4. They’ve paid a fortune for Big Brother and it is their biggest advertising money-spinner.



“They’ve relied on it for so long to bring in ratings – but it seems the magic has gone.”



The channel secured rights to the show in a three-year £80m deal. But C4 chiefs fear the BB bubble may have burst – for ever.



Bosses vowed that BB9 will be back “bigger and better” than ever this summer, but fewer fans have been turning up for auditions up and down the country.



Only 20 people in Newcastle made the effort, compared with thousands who queued last year.



Ratings for Celebrity Hijack have now slumped as low as 300,000-600,000.

[arista]

The Star
gets alot wrong.

So wait and see.

[Jackie]

I don't think they will change the time slot.

[Jack]

Daily Star = pure and utter crap.

[Stu]

Originally posted by Jack
Daily Star = pure and utter c**p.

Not this time its not. The magic has gone. It could be moved to 10pm. The auditions WERE a shambles.

[Nicky.]

Originally posted by Jack
Daily Star = pure and utter c**p.

Definetly

Hope its not true.. prob isnt!

[Jack]

Originally posted by Stu

Not this time its not. The magic has gone. It could be moved to 10pm. The auditions WERE a shambles.

Loads of people have turned up to the auditions this year, admittantly less than last year. Saying 20 turned up to the Newcastle ones is utterly rediculous. BB always seems to bounce back. And I was under the impression BB:CH has been a success (the low ratings are understandable being on E4).

[Matt]

The vast majority of the stuff The Daily Star prints are lies, and Big Brother has confirmed this himself on his blog.

And remember, it is only January, so I doubt that Channel 4 have made scheduling decisions so far in advance of the show.

[Stu]

Originally posted by Jack]
the low ratings are understandable being on E4).

That safety net has gone out the window. Even e4 can get much higher figures than what BB has been getting. Plus most of the e4 audience were usually always Big Brother watchers.

Live evictions are now getting lower ratings than sister shows used to get in years gone by! I think that signals that some of the magic is gone to say the least!

[Jack]

Big Brother has definitely not lost it's magic. It's hibernating

It's still very much in the media spotlight (enough for the Daily Star to make up ludicrous stories). People felt this way after BB4 and BB6, and there were many similar reports of BB being in crisis then.

The wonderful thing about BB is it has the ability to reinvent itself, people will always have an opinion on it whether it's good or bad - it still manages to generate hype.

Yes, the ratings were low for BB:CH but the producers didn't intend it to be a ratings winner. The whole point of the show was to allow the dust to settle and give BB a rest (it would hardly have been given a rest if it pulled in 5+ million viewers). It gave the producers the oppurtunity to experiment and throw ideas around.

BB8 was lacklustre and the effort put in by the producers was poor, but this has made the producers go back to the drawing board and rethink the format of the show (much like they did after BB4). I'm not going to say "BB9 will be amazing" but I think it deserves to be given a chance by all the cynics.

[Spike]

I wonder how many more lies the Daily Star will print before BB9.

[Stu]

Originally posted by Jack
Big Brother has difinitely not lost it's magic. It's hibernating

It's still very much in the media spotlight (enough for the Daily Star to make up ludicrous stories). People felt this way after BB4 and BB6, and there were many similar reports of BB being in crisis then.

The wonderful thing about BB is it has the ability to reinvent itself, people will always have an opinion on it whether it's good or bad - it still manages to generate hype.

Yes, the ratings were low for BB:CH but the producers didn't intend it to be a ratings winner. The whole point of the show was to allow the dust to settle and give BB a rest (it would hardly have been given a rest if it pulled in 5+ million viewers). It gave the producers the oppurtunity to experiment and throw ideas around.

BB8 was lacklustre and the effort put in by the producers was poor, but this has made the producers go back to the drawing board and rethink the format of the show (much like they did after BB4). I'm not going to say "BB9 will be amazing" but I think it deserves to be given a chance by all the cynics.

Im no cynic , and im a big fan of the argument that BB can reinvent itself , but its all about the ratings. Why would it be getting so much advertising? Why would it be getting so many slots on E4? Its experimental yes , but only in a small way. The whole experiment angle has been greatly exagertaed by people on this forum. And thats the hard truth. Its just an altered , play it safe format - fact.

Celebrity Hijack was a ratings flop in terms of a Big Brother show. This WILL have adverse effects on BB9 and channel 4's handling of it , wherther we like it or not. Another fact.

To that extent , the daily star is absoloutely right.

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : Matt
The vast majority of the stuff The Daily Star prints are lies, and Big Brother has confirmed this himself on his blog.

And remember, it is only January, so I doubt that Channel 4 have made scheduling decisions so far in advance of the show.

Exactly, they just didn't plan it yet. God, when will stop the Daily Star with its stupid lies ?

[Stu]

Of course they are planning ahead for Big Brother 9! All TV shows are planned MONTHS in advance! You would be naive to think otherwise.

There really is no excuses for BB this time. Celebrity Hijack is entertaining , but its a ratings faliure. This WILL affect BB9!

[Tom]

1) This is the Daily Star
2) The whole article is based around Big Brothers traditional slot being 9pm, but 10pm is the traditional Big Brother time slot. It has only been on at 9pm from BB7 onwards.
3) Celebrity Hijack is NOT a ratings flop. It is on E4 so is not expected to pull in 4m viewers every night. Its averaging out at around 0.5m which is acceptable for E4 and is quite a success.

[Jack]

Originally posted by Tom_
The whole article is based around Big Brothers traditional slot being 9pm, but 10pm is the traditional Big Brother time slot. It has only been on at 9pm from BB7 onwards.

Exactly. In fact the first half of BB7 was at the regular 10pm slot. The only summer series to have the 9pm slot was BB8 (which flopped).

[Loukas]

Originally posted by Stu

Not this time its not. The magic has gone. It could be moved to 10pm. The auditions WERE a shambles.

not really, i dont think they were in london 3000 auditions on saturday and 4000 on the sunday!

[Stu]

Originally posted by Tom_
3) Celebrity Hijack is NOT a ratings flop.

Yes it is , in my opinion. Even for an E4 show it could do more. And launch night only got three million or so and that was on e4 and channel four.

Lays the E4 argument to rest , I think.

[arista]

Originally posted by Spike
I wonder how many more lies the Daily Star will print before BB9.

At least another 20.
They are angry at Endemol over something.



No way is it Chopped
on that Rubbish papers say so.

[Stu]

Nobody is saying its chopped! The article never says it will be chopped! Its just an unnapropriate title to the topic its creator gave it!!!

[Tom]

Originally posted by Stu

Yes it is , in my opinion. Even for an E4 show it could do more. And launch night only got three million or so and that was on e4 and channel four.

Lays the E4 argument to rest , I think.

You have high expectations. It was publicised as only on E4, not Channel 4. There is one reason for a 3m launch. Its unlikely to get a 6m launch because if some people don't have E4, then they simply won't watch it because there is no point in watching a launch for something you cant follow.

E4's channel share is 1% which is what shows average at. Big Brother gets about a 2-3% share. Not a flop IMO.

[arista]

Yes but look at the star
at how many times they have HAD the wrong story.


Ref:wrestling
the Rock is under contract to Film Studios
so he is not going back to the WWE
for some years.

[Stu]

Originally posted by Tom_

You have high expectations. It was publicised as only on E4, not Channel 4. There is one reason for a 3m launch. Its unlikely to get a 6m launch because if some people don't have E4, then they simply won't watch it because there is no point in watching a launch for something you cant follow.

E4's channel share is 1% which is what shows average at. Big Brother gets about a 2-3% share. Not a flop IMO.

What about the fast rate in which ratings dropped , with few exceptions , since launch night? What about the completely sporadic ratings the show has been getting , with evicitons sometimes popping up as being lower than uneventful normal shows? Big Brother has become a routine show. Its been around the block. It may get a new lick of paint but as it stands right now it has lost a lot of its magic and its not the show it once was. Big Brother fans need to accept that and realise that it will affect the way Channel 4 may handle Big Brother 9! It may not get the star treatment it once got!

And once again , to that point , this article is completely true!!!

[Tom]

Originally posted by Stu

What about the fast rate in which ratings dropped , with few exceptions , since launch night? What about the completely sporadic ratings the show has been getting , with evicitons sometimes popping up as being lower than uneventful normal shows? Big Brother has become a routine show. Its been around the block. It may get a new lick of paint but as it stands right now it has lost a lot of its magic and its not the show it once was. Big Brother fans need to accept that and realise that it will affect the way Channel 4 may handle Big Brother 9! It may not get the star treatment it once got!

And once again , to that point , this article is completely true!!!

The series flopped as soon as they moved it permanently out of the 10pm slot! The article says it is just moving back, but Big Brother over on the C4 forums said that the story is not true! And it is the real Big Brother.

As for the ratings, they are completely unpredictable. They have slipped, but not a dramatic slip. All viewing figures for shows slip then rise again for the final show. BB is no different.

For a full grid of overnights (the officials are bigger) CLICK HERE

And yes, Big Brother has lost its magic but its still good to watch.

To be honest, I would rather believe one of the producers rather than you and your logic.

[Stu]

Originally posted by Tom_

The series flopped as soon as they moved it permanently out of the 10pm slot! The article says it is just moving back, but Big Brother over on the C4 forums said that the story is not true! And it is the real Big Brother.

As for the ratings, they are completely unpredictable. They have slipped, but not a dramatic slip. All viewing figures for shows slip then rise again for the final show. BB is no different.

For a full grid of overnights (the officials are bigger) CLICK HERE

And yes, Big Brother has lost its magic but its still good to watch.

To be honest, I would rather believe one of the producers rather than you and your logic.

Im not asking you to believe me , im merely airing a viewpoint. One that goes against the often gullible viewpoints expressed on here concerning Big Brother's future. My point was merely that Big Brother has lost some of its magic [which you have admitted it has] and that this will most probably affect the way Channel 4 handles the show.

As for your ratings excuse? Unpredictable? Come on , they are just plain inconsistent! They show that people now only watch Big Brother out of habit! Not only that , but the weekly averages have steadily gone downwards!

This means even judged against ITSELF as an E4 show , its still not exactly doing too hot!