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Vanessa · 19-02-2021, 01:15 PM

They say they want privacy, but then they do things like this?

I quite like Harry actually, but I'm not that keen on Megan.

joeysteele · 19-02-2021, 01:16 PM

Public service is universal.
It's not confined to Royal duties.

It could be argued possibly some are noted for strong public service only because they've done Royal duties.

The causes all that Prince Harry and Meghan believe in and care about, they can still act for in their personal lives.

As any of us do, when we are involved actively with charities or care.
Or involved in causes to fight for.
Surely we are doing a public service then too.

So yes, public service is universal not confined to the Royal family and Royal duties.
It's a part of public service yes, however not the only means of it at all.

Crimson Dynamo · 19-02-2021, 01:17 PM

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Vanessa · 19-02-2021, 01:20 PM

As long as they're happy, I don't really mind either way.
But I hope Harry comes back to visit his family sometimes.

Cherie · 19-02-2021, 01:26 PM

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rusticgal · 19-02-2021, 01:36 PM

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...to be fair though, Rusti...there wasn’t ever any feeling of ‘poor Harry’ when so much of the media and public speculated so openly about his ‘parentage’ for so many years...how he must have felt about that and how damaging for his mental health and just another indication for his difficult media relationship...no consideration that the person that was hurt most in that speculation was poor Harry himself...but now poor Harry because it fits with the focus on Meghan and the dislike of her and it’s always all Meghan’s fault etc so poor Harry...when he’s been subjected to some really awful stuff by so many sources who are now saying poor Harry...

At the end of the day they obviously make these decisions together. However. Meghan is a very strong determined woman and seems oblivious to the fact that Harry is starting to look like a her lap dog....she leads the way and he just adds his bit. Maybe he likes it...but this is someone who was happy go lucky but also strong willed...someone who insisted on fighting on the front line..etc.
Now he is just looking like a hen pecked husband....'poor Harry' was tongue-in-cheek....I wasnt feeling sorry for him... He has made his choice.

rusticgal · 19-02-2021, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Glenn.

She sold umpteen stories about Meghan to cash in on her as did her father. Of all the things Meghan has supposedly done nothing is as scummy as that.

...like Meghan is cashing in on her Royal connections...all cut from the same cloth then...

Glenn. · 19-02-2021, 02:02 PM

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...like Meghan is cashing in on her Royal connections...all cut from the same cloth then...

If you think that’s the same as a supposedly loving father who gave his daughter everything and a jealous sister selling stories then I think we’ll stop there. It’s definitely not the same but you know that.

rusticgal · 19-02-2021, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Glenn.

If you think that’s the same as a supposedly loving father who gave his daughter everything and a jealous sister selling stories then I think we’ll stop there. It’s definitely not the same but you know that.

None of us know what has happened...why shouldnt people be allowed to sell their story and their version of events. Meghans out there doing just the same thing...using a Documentry to talk about 'poor me'....now shes talking to Oprah to tell her story for a fee...(oh yes its going to charity because she can afford for it to go to charity)....but shes still 'telling her story'. Like I said she is no different...no different at all.

Tom4784 · 19-02-2021, 02:27 PM

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It all stems from Meghan freezing out both her mother Doria's side and her fathers side of the family once she had some fame and was seemingly ashamed of them all. And when she married Harry, Doria was the only member of her side of quite a large family who was invited.
Instead there were many celebrities there who had never even met Meghan and some who had never met Harry either. It was all shallow showboating.

Meghan isn't little Miss Innocent and her extended family all scum. IMO It starts with Meghan being an arrogant, manipulative ruthless snob with a cold heart as she still is to this day.

Considering that the first impulse her family seemed to have was to make money off of her, it's no wonder why she chose to not invite most of them. She's known them for longer than any of us, after all, if they weren't invited to either of her weddings, then there's a reason.

Turning your back on toxic family members is not a bad thing, and her family have shown themselves to be incredibly toxic and opportunistic. If any of us were in her position, we'd be lying if we said we wouldn't do the same.

Finally, if that whole side of her family is toxic as seems to be the case with her sister and father then that's not on her, they are toxic because they are toxic and it's just ignorant to place the blame for their behaviour on anyone other then themselves. I do not think you would hold the same views if we were talking about anyone other than Meghan Markle.

Tom4784 · 19-02-2021, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal

None of us know what has happened...why shouldnt people be allowed to sell their story and their version of events. Meghans out there doing just the same thing...using a Documentry to talk about 'poor me'....now shes talking to Oprah to tell her story for a fee...(oh yes its going to charity because she can afford for it to go to charity)....but shes still 'telling her story'. Like I said she is no different...no different at all.

I think there's a core difference here that you are choosing to ignore because it upends your argument if you acknowledge it.

Meghan Markle has spoken about her own issues, dealing with the pressure of parenthood, her miscarriage, stuff like that. Samantha Markle and her dad went to the press to tear apart a family member for a paycheque. They weren't telling 'their story', they were trashing someone else for money because they weren't going to profit from their relation to Meghan Markle any other way because she had cut them from her life.

There's a difference there and you know it. Anyone can talk about their own struggles, it's noble to do so (sniffing at the fact Meghan will give her fees to charity is just strange), but when you're looking for payment to throw a family member under the bus then that's scummy.

Glenn. · 19-02-2021, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal

None of us know what has happened...why shouldnt people be allowed to sell their story and their version of events. Meghans out there doing just the same thing...using a Documentry to talk about 'poor me'....now shes talking to Oprah to tell her story for a fee...(oh yes its going to charity because she can afford for it to go to charity)....but shes still 'telling her story'. Like I said she is no different...no different at all.

Except here are you and others, tearing Meghan apart for doing the interview. But her scum sister is completely fine to do it because her jealous views line up with everyone else’s demented opinions on Meghan.

arista · 19-02-2021, 02:57 PM

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ng-royals.html

Cherie · 19-02-2021, 03:18 PM

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ng-royals.html

Quite a difference in tone in the two messages isn’t there

rusticgal · 19-02-2021, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Glenn.

Except here are you and others, tearing Meghan apart for doing the interview. But her scum sister is completely fine to do it because her jealous views line up with everyone else’s demented opinions on Meghan.

No Im saying they are all as bad as each other....equally you defend Meghan for having the right to 'tell her story'...but you call her sister and father 'scum' for telling theirs...

Cherie · 19-02-2021, 03:36 PM

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No Im saying they are all as bad as each other....equally you defend Meghan for having the right to 'tell her story'...but you call her sister and father 'scum' for telling theirs...

Indeed

rusticgal · 19-02-2021, 03:37 PM

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Quite a difference in tone in the two messages isn’t there

yup...one is nice and respectful and loving and the other is rather bitter and blunt and disrespectful.

jet · 19-02-2021, 03:40 PM

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Quite a difference in tone in the two messages isn’t there

Oopsy, Harry and Meghan are not happy. They think what they have been doing is an example of a 'life of public service'? More like torturing the masses.
Last week it was reported that Harry was going to 'fight' to keep his military patronages, well, he's not. The celeb life was more important to him and he can't have it both ways.

jet · 19-02-2021, 03:50 PM

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yup...one is nice and respectful and loving and the other is rather bitter and blunt and disrespectful.

As has happened on several occasions now with statements from and to the Palace/Queen. They are furious because they weren't allowed from the start to have their cake and eat it. They thought they were so important that they could demand it all. No, said the Queen, you are either in or out.

Glenn. · 19-02-2021, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal

No Im saying they are all as bad as each other....equally you defend Meghan for having the right to 'tell her story'...but you call her sister and father 'scum' for telling theirs...

As far as I’m aware, Meghan hasn’t had any financial gains for ‘her story’ though and it appears whatever fee she is expected to have with Oprah will be donated so again, it’s not the same.

Glenn. · 19-02-2021, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by jet

Oopsy, Harry and Meghan are not happy. They think what they have been doing is an example of a 'life of public service'? More like torturing the masses.
Last week it was reported that Harry was going to 'fight' to keep his military patronages, well, he's not. The celeb life was more important to him and he can't have it both ways.

‘It was reported’

Cherie · 19-02-2021, 04:04 PM

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As has happened on several occasions now with statements from and to the Palace/Queen. They are furious because they weren't allowed from the start to have their cake and eat it. They thought they were so important that they could demand it all. No, said the Queen, you are either in or out.

Yes you don't leave the company and keep the company car, its as simple as that, they wanted it all but Liz is da ultimate boss

rusticgal · 19-02-2021, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Glenn.

As far as I’m aware, Meghan hasn’t had any financial gains for ‘her story’ though and it appears whatever fee she is expected to have with Oprah will be donated so again, it’s not the same.

So do you think she would donate it if she needed the money?

....I mean lets get this into context.

Glenn. · 19-02-2021, 04:11 PM

What is amazing in all of this is that even though the haters have been crying out for them to lose their titles, here you all are a till tearing them apart over it. I’m sure they knew it would happen and STILL went ahead and did what was best for them.