[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Zizu

This is a tad worrying .,

Breaking news. Manchester hospitals are pausing non urgent surgery and appointments due to the rising impact of Covid


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Non urgent surgery?

Isn't that what they park every flipping winter since Jesus was a lad?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Nicola Sturgeon’s deputy ‘twisting data’ to justify Scotland’s strict Covid rules
John Swinney accused of misleading public after citing study that applied to week before new regulations came in

DT

[rusticgal]

Get vaccinated…stay safe and be sensible and we have to live alongside this…just like we do the flu.
I would like to know the stats on how many dying are actually unvaccinated then we might get a more realistic picture.

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BBC Text
["Killer psycho clowns in the Commons",
is the headline for the Daily Star,
which reports that ITV political editor Robert Peston
has described politicians as maniacs
who would kill to get their own way.]

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Zizu

This is a tad worrying .,

Breaking news. Manchester hospitals are pausing non urgent surgery and appointments due to the rising impact of Covid


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I read that too. Its due to massive staff shortages from isolating with Covid rather than numbers being admitted. My friends husband should have had a hernia op today but its been cancelled for the second time until at least the end of January.

[arista]

Yes, 12 Hospitals are now reported
as Critical.


Early Debate on GMBHD itv.

[bots]

Macron seems to have lost the plot completely now. He wants to deny unvaccinated people access to just about anything

"I won't send [unvaccinated people] to prison," he said. "So we need to tell them, from 15 January, you will no longer be able to go to the restaurant. You will no longer be able to go for a coffee, you will no longer be able to go to the theatre. You will no longer be able to go to the cinema."

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Macron seems to have lost the plot completely now. He wants to deny unvaccinated people access to just about anything

"I won't send [unvaccinated people] to prison," he said. "So we need to tell them, from 15 January, you will no longer be able to go to the restaurant. You will no longer be able to go for a coffee, you will no longer be able to go to the theatre. You will no longer be able to go to the cinema."

good on Macron

[Nicky91]

https://nltimes.nl/2022/01/05/outbre...ailers-angered

Netherlands: outbreak team says lockdown extension likely, retailers angered

Due to uncertainties about the "important characteristics" of the Omicron variant, the Outbreak Management Team (OMT) is not in favor of a quick relation of Covid-19 measures, apart from reopening schools. For the time being, the experts estimated that "further room to relax measures is expected at the end of January." By then, the booster campaign should have been completed and the hope is that the virus spread will decrease sufficiently. The OMT will discuss the decision further on Friday.

Business owners were frustrated by the advice of the OMT. Some entrepreneurs said that Cabinet should end public appearances by the OMT. "You create much unrest. Entrepreneurs are going crazy," director of the retail stores association INretial Jan Meerman told De Telegraaf.

Shopkeepers were angered that the Cabinet seemed to act solely on the wish of the OMT and did not hear the needs of the business owners. "It's crazy that we are the only country in lockdown," chair of the hospitality union Robin Willemsen said.

The OMT had various calculations for different scenarios. When primary and secondary schools reopen on Monday, it is expected to trigger a "wave of infections" peaking at the end of January or early February. According to OMT, the hospital admissions resulting from the wave could remain relatively limited. The number of patients in the ICU could rise to a maximum of 620 Covid-19 patients. Now there are 475 people with Covid-19 in the ICUs.

The OMT said a significant degree of uncertainty remains around these factors. For example, it is not yet clear how contagious Omicron is, how likely the chance is to end up in hospital and how effective vaccines are.

Preliminary research from the United Kingdom showed that Omicron spreads more rapidly than the Delta variant but leads to fewer hospital admissions. Although Omicron appears to be milder than delta, there is still a risk it could overload the healthcare system, the OMT said.

Furthermore, it appears that vaccines are less effective against Omicron than against the earlier virus variants. In their latest advice, the OMT cited British research that a booster shot would offer 65 to 75 percent protection against infection with symptoms. Yet, according to the preliminary British figures, after ten weeks, that effectiveness has decreased to 40 to 50 percent. After a booster shot, people are 80 to 90 percent protected against hospitalization. How long the protection will be maintained will have become clear in further research

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Get vaccinated…stay safe and be sensible and we have to live alongside this…just like we do the flu.
I would like to know the stats on how many dying are actually unvaccinated then we might get a more realistic picture.

i don't get vaccinated for the flu either


omicron does not scare me, on the contrary i quite like what i read, about it more attacking the throat and not the lungs

[Nicky91]

i don't think i can get long covid with omicron variant for that particular reason, how it attacks the throat more, aw throatache is something what i had quite often already when i have a cold


also think it has same mild symptoms at unvaccinated with that variant, given they tested it on animals too, and those results were a match, more aimed at throat, rather than damage at the lungs


so i've read

[arista]

USA : Chicago teachers have refused to go in.


So many Teachers are off sick
with Omicron.


Same problem as the UK.



Reported on CNN HD Live

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

i don't think i can get long covid with omicron variant for that particular reason, how it attacks the throat more, aw throatache is something what i had quite often already when i have a cold


also think it has same mild symptoms at unvaccinated with that variant, given they tested it on animals too, and those results were a match, more aimed at throat, rather than damage at the lungs


so i've read

The virus taking root in the throat and upper respiratory system matches up with the spread, too. Because it’s not going “deeper” into the respiratory system, it has a shorter incubation period, and also, because the virus is most active in the upper parts it spreads more easily through just breathing, rather than coughing.

So they all go hand in hand really. Short incubation = virus roots in upper airways = faster spread + milder symptoms (as the severe symptoms are damage to the lungs and other organs/pneumonia).

Long Covid is at least partially thought to be neurological damage + damage to the heart etc. which should occur much less frequently in mild illness.

Of course, you can get PVFS (post-viral fatigue) from ANY virus (e.g. it’s very common after glandular fever) and general PVFS symptoms could easily be thought to be “long Covid”.

[Zizu]

Nicola Sturgeon spouting on LIVE tv as we speak ..

Typical political take on things

She claimed that false POSITIVE lateral flow tests account for only 3 in 10,000. ...

I’m more concerned with all the NEGATIVE lateral flow test results given they’re wildly unreliable at around 40% accurate according to one study as I recall


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[bots]

the lateral flow tests indicate if you are infectious for covid, in that they are very accurate

[arista]

[UK will be first ‘to go from pandemic
to epidemic’, says Zahawi
Vaccines mean another lockdown
is unlikely, says Zahawi

Britain will be the first big country to
use vaccines to end the pandemic,
a minister predicted this morning
as the government insists fresh restrictions are not needed.
Nadhim Zahawi, the education secretary,
said he was not complacent but argued that the
government’s plan was working and it had
been right to open up and allow
high infections throughout the summer.]


https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/b...ists-9pq5m2h3j

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by arista

USA : Chicago teachers have refused to go in.


So many Teachers are off sick
with Omicron.



Reported on CNN HD Live

I’m not at all surprised ... schools are nowhere near as safe as the government claim or the public believe .


The Chicago school’s chief seems perplexed at the decision to not return .

Check out the last sentence of the second photo .... so reassuring !!

“ we are ‘starting’ to deliver ‘some’ of the N95 masks that we have ‘ordered’ .. “






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[Nicky91]

Netherlands todays numbers

24.590 new cases

1.644 total hospitalisations, 147 new hospitalisations (day before 151 new patients in hospital, decrease of 4 in one day as for new patients)

459 total on ICU's/ventilators, 13 new ICU patients (day before 28 new, so a decrease of 15 in one day as for new patients)

39 new deaths



most of ICU's is now still from delta variant, but that one is slowly fading away by the day and omicron taking over more and more so RIVM expects ICU numbers to go down more, but does not rule out for hospitalisations to remain higher than we want them to