[Livia]

The Chinese and Taiwan are facing a gathering conflict, China already have Tibet by the throat and they're murdering Uyghur Muslims in their thousands; the word 'genocide' is often used in connection with them. North Korea is as unstable and unpredictable as ever and possess nuclear weapons. The Middle East is burning, how long before Israel bombs Iran into a car park? The rain forests are disappearing despite the warnings and the seas are rising. Not far away from us. Russia is massing 100,000 troops on the borders of Ukraine.

So the burning question of the day is, Did Boris go to a party, or....not?

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Livia

The Chinese and Taiwan are facing a gathering conflict, China already have Tibet by the throat and they're murdering Uyghur Muslims in their thousands; the word 'genocide' is often used in connection with them. North Korea is as unstable and unpredictable as ever and possess nuclear weapons. The Middle East is burning, how long before Israel bombs Iran into a car park? The rain forests are disappearing despite the warnings and the seas are rising. Not far away from us. Russia is massing 100,000 troops on the borders of Ukraine.

So the burning question of the day is, Did Boris go to a party, or....not?

No.
The question is about breaking the laws with penalties and rules he dictated and made for everyone else, being broken by him.
At something that shouldn't have even been taking place!.

When people couldn't be with loved ones dying, or have church services for those lost loved ones and couldn't travel to or go to their funerals either.
Because they were obeying his and those rules.

That may not matter to you but it does to myself,my family and hundreds of thousands at least of others still left devastated and grieving for lost loved ones.

[arista]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

so they only member of his family at no 10 is his wife?

Could be

[arista]

Originally Posted by Livia

The Chinese and Taiwan are facing a gathering conflict, China already have Tibet by the throat and they're murdering Uyghur Muslims in their thousands; the word 'genocide' is often used in connection with them. North Korea is as unstable and unpredictable as ever and possess nuclear weapons. The Middle East is burning, how long before Israel bombs Iran into a car park? The rain forests are disappearing despite the warnings and the seas are rising. Not far away from us. Russia is massing 100,000 troops on the borders of Ukraine.

So the burning question of the day is, Did Boris go to a party, or....not?

Yes Shocking all these International battles
about to start


And a Work Event A/K/A party downing st. big garden

[Livia]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

No.
The question is about breaking the laws with penalties and rules he dictated and made for everyone else, being broken by him.
At something that shouldn't have even been taking place!.

When people couldn't be with loved ones dying, or have church services for those lost loved ones and couldn't travel to or go to their funerals either.
Because they were obeying his and those rules.

That may not matter to you but it does to myself,my family and hundreds of thousands at least of others still left devastated and grieving for lost loved ones.

Nice that you're talking to me joey, but there's no need to be so aggressive. "that may not matter to you...". You have no idea what matters to me.

I lost my beloved grandmother before Christmas. I know how it feels to suffer loss.

What makes me most angry about this whole thing is Angela Rayner's bitter face showing people how outraged she is. The same woman who referred to Tory MPs as "scum" two weeks before one was stabbed to death. Imagine if a Tory had said Labour were "scum" two weeks before Jo Cox. There was a discussion about the violent language they use to each other but Angela never got the memo.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Livia

Nice that you're talking to me joey, but there's no need to be so aggressive. "that may not matter to you...". You have no idea what matters to me.

I lost my beloved grandmother before Christmas. I know how it feels to suffer loss.

What makes me most angry about this whole thing is Angela Rayner's bitter face showing people how outraged she is. The same woman who referred to Tory MPs as "scum" two weeks before one was stabbed to death. Imagine if a Tory had said Labour were "scum" two weeks before Jo Cox. There was a discussion about the violent language they use to each other but Angela never got the memo.

aww that's so sad to hear

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

aww that's so sad to hear

Thanks Nicky xxx

[Cherie]

Maybe Wilfred picked it up at nursery

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Livia

Nice that you're talking to me joey, but there's no need to be so aggressive. "that may not matter to you...". You have no idea what matters to me.

I lost my beloved grandmother before Christmas. I know how it feels to suffer loss.

What makes me most angry about this whole thing is Angela Rayner's bitter face showing people how outraged she is. The same woman who referred to Tory MPs as "scum" two weeks before one was stabbed to death. Imagine if a Tory had said Labour were "scum" two weeks before Jo Cox. There was a discussion about the violent language they use to each other but Angela never got the memo.

I lost 2 Aunt's and 2 friends, one a Nurse.

I have no time for Angela Raynor actually.
I may be Labour but I will criticise anyone anytime for wrong.

She too had to apologise, however it took her too long to do it too.
I'd frankly rather have a different deputy of the Labour party.

She didn't however break any of her own laws and rules she'd dictated to everyone else in the country to obey.

I said earlier politics can be brutal which you well know.

It's not aggression Livia it's anger that a man who is in the highest office of the land can dictate laws and rules to others but not have to obey them himself.

He has insisted for weeks, months in fact, no rules were broken.
Yet he was at something he had banned everywhere else for everyone else.
Only apologising when fully caught out.

I extend an apology to you for saying it may not matter to you.
Plus I'm extremely sad to learn of your great loss too.

My anger is at any or perceived defence of this and I'm sorry for my terminology here, this creep, who really does in my view think he can make laws and rules that everyone else must obey.
However which he goes about as if they shouldn't and don't apply to him too.
Sorry but for me, that's unacceptable.

Anyhow, have a good day Livia.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Livia

Nice that you're talking to me joey, but there's no need to be so aggressive. "that may not matter to you...". You have no idea what matters to me.

I lost my beloved grandmother before Christmas. I know how it feels to suffer loss.

What makes me most angry about this whole thing is Angela Rayner's bitter face showing people how outraged she is. The same woman who referred to Tory MPs as "scum" two weeks before one was stabbed to death. Imagine if a Tory had said Labour were "scum" two weeks before Jo Cox. There was a discussion about the violent language they use to each other but Angela never got the memo.

aw that is tough, sorry for your loss Liv xx

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

To be fair while we've had some that have made some horrendous decisions, certainly, I don't think we've had one who so freely tells the most ridiculous lies and comes out with the excuses that a 5 year old would use and expects that to be just accepted... "I didn't know it was a party tho" must be up there with the most ludicrous ways to avoid accepting responsibility I've ever heard from anyone over the age of 12.

If we're talking "worst" in terms of actual effect though, no, he's not the literal worst. Thatcher's politics are still the absolute worst and she will be near-impossible to beat.

And Mr Cameron is up there too with A) Mishandling the Brexit vote through over-confidence and B) running away afterwards.

Not going to lie though Zizu, you have to admit that Boris probably makes the top 5 if you factor in various things.

I just think that Boris has a good heart and I’ve always felt that way .. I don’t see that in anyone else aside from maybe Chris Whitty who’s not a politician.


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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

You may not care at all about those people grieving.
Well, that's not my problem.
However it says nothing about me thankfully.

I care about everybody and everything .. that’s my downfall and why probably why my mental state is so very fragile ...

As regards your other rantings ... I called you out on your attack on Boris as I don’t feel that anyone else on the political scene could have done any better - you made it a political thing as you vote Labour and were critical of the Tories ..

Maybe we should now bury the hatchet ..
agree to disagree or put me on ignore ..

I wish you no harm or malice and never meant to get you so riled .

Apologies

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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by arista

Johnson
has a member in his family that has covid.

So he has cancelled his Health Hospital Visit



https://news.sky.com/story/boris-joh...covid-12514781

He’ll probably get slagged off in here for cancelling his hospital visit


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[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Zizu

He’ll probably get slagged off in here for cancelling his hospital visit


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He will because he does not need to isolate

He has done this to avoid questions and the embarrassment of a visit to a hospiutal following yesterday

So again - its me, me,me and lies

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

He will because he does not need to isolate

He has done this to avoid questions and the embarrassment of a visit to a hospiutal following yesterday

So again - its me, me,me and lies

We don’t know that for sure though .. you’re just going to the worst case scenario to suit your argument.

Maybe he’s being ultra , ultra careful in what he does given he’s under such unbelievable scrutiny


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[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Livia

Nice that you're talking to me joey, but there's no need to be so aggressive. "that may not matter to you...". You have no idea what matters to me.

I lost my beloved grandmother before Christmas. I know how it feels to suffer loss.

What makes me most angry about this whole thing is Angela Rayner's bitter face showing people how outraged she is. The same woman who referred to Tory MPs as "scum" two weeks before one was stabbed to death. Imagine if a Tory had said Labour were "scum" two weeks before Jo Cox. There was a discussion about the violent language they use to each other but Angela never got the memo.

Sorry for your loss x

[arista]

[bots]

A senior UK government minister has dismissed the Scottish Conservative leader Douglas Ross as a "lightweight" within the party, after he called for the prime minister's resignation.

Mr Ross said Boris Johnson should step down after he admitted attending a Downing Street party during lockdown.

Jacob Rees-Mogg said Mr Ross was a "lightweight figure", and the PM had the support of more "important" MPs.

He said this included the Scottish secretary, Alister Jack.

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Implosion pending

[Crimson Dynamo]

Scotland is being treated with "utter contempt" by Westminster, Nicola
Sturgeon has said amid a row over comments made by Jacob Rees-Mogg
over 'Partygate'.

Ms Sturgeon told First Minister's Questions at Holyrood she had "big political
differences with Douglas Ross, but even I am not as derogatory about him as
his own Tory colleagues are being".

"'Not a big figure', 'lightweight' - these might be personal insults directed at
the leader of the Scottish Conservatives but actually they say something
much deeper about the Westminster establishment's utter contempt for
Scotland," she said.

"Independence is fundamentally about empowerment and aspiration but, you
know what, an added benefit of being independent is it will no longer have
to put up with being treated like something on the sole of Westminster's
shoe."

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/p...-ross-25936028

[bots]

thats wiped out tory support in scotland completely

[Crimson Dynamo]

20 working police officers in and around number 10 when that party was going on

[Crimson Dynamo]

Panini football card amendment...

Spoiler:

[arista]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

A senior UK government minister has dismissed the Scottish Conservative leader Douglas Ross as a "lightweight" within the party, after he called for the prime minister's resignation.

Mr Ross said Boris Johnson should step down after he admitted attending a Downing Street party during lockdown.

Jacob Rees-Mogg said Mr Ross was a "lightweight figure", and the PM had the support of more "important" MPs.

He said this included the Scottish secretary, Alister Jack.

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Yes ,
Jacob repeated it on NewsnightHD BBC2
last night.

[arista]

[Boris Johnson in a pillow fight at Eton School, September 1979]

[Crimson Dynamo]

Scottish independence takes a huge leap forward this week