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arista · 26-01-2022, 08:41 AM

Number 10 Downing St.
has said they have not received the Sue Gray report.

arista · 26-01-2022, 08:42 AM

Andrew Neil will examine Boris Johnson’s political fight
in Boris Johnson: Has He Run Out of Road?
Sunday 30th January, 6:45pm, on Channel 4 and All 4

[Andrew speaks to the key players as events unfold,
including Lord Frost, Red Wall MP Lee Anderson
and David Davis, who all confide in Andrew
as Boris fights for his political life.
He will explore if Boris Johnson, the great
political survivor, is now finished.

Boris Johnson: Has He Run Out of Road?

bots · 26-01-2022, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by arista

Number 10 Downing St.
has said they have not received the Sue Gray report.

lost in the post?

arista · 26-01-2022, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide

lost in the post?

No they say it has not arrived yet

Others think it can arrive this morning.

Zizu · 26-01-2022, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista

Andrew Neil will examine Boris Johnson’s political fight
in Boris Johnson: Has He Run Out of Road?
Sunday 30th January, 6:45pm, on Channel 4 and All 4

[Andrew speaks to the key players as events unfold,
including Lord Frost, Red Wall MP Lee Anderson
and David Davis, who all confide in Andrew
as Boris fights for his political life.
He will explore if Boris Johnson, the great
political survivor, is now finished.

Boris Johnson: Has He Run Out of Road?

Anyone know the political stances of those involved .. including Neil ??

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arista · 26-01-2022, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Zizu

Anyone know the political stances of those involved .. including Neil ??

Andrew runs the Spectator
He is Great doing this for Ch4HD
right after the Sunday Ch4HDnews.
Not listed in Printed Magazines

Everyone says Andrew is right wing.

I hope he does more of these special reports

Zizu · 26-01-2022, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by arista

Andrew runs the Spectator
He is Great doing this for Ch4HD
right after the Sunday Ch4HDnews.
Not listed in Printed Magazines

Everyone says Andrew is right wing.

I hope he does more of these special reports

... and his guests ??

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arista · 26-01-2022, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Zizu

... and his guests ??

From the Conservative Party

Zizu · 26-01-2022, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by arista

From the Conservative Party

Interesting .

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bots · 26-01-2022, 11:12 AM

what people say in public and do in private are 2 different things as all the party gate stuff has shown us

The majority of people speaking out now against Boris never liked him, so they have nothing to lose. Cabinet members wont say anything against him until a vote of no confidence brings him down. If they did anything else they would be seen a disloyal. That's the nature of the game. So Andrew Neil won't get anything other than that in his interviews

Parmy · 26-01-2022, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista

Andrew Neil will examine Boris Johnson’s political fight
in Boris Johnson: Has He Run Out of Road?
Sunday 30th January, 6:45pm, on Channel 4 and All 4

[Andrew speaks to the key players as events unfold,
including Lord Frost, Red Wall MP Lee Anderson
and David Davis, who all confide in Andrew
as Boris fights for his political life.
He will explore if Boris Johnson, the great
political survivor, is now finished.

Boris Johnson: Has He Run Out of Road?

Hopefully he will be gone by then.

Zizu · 26-01-2022, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide

what people say in public and do in private are 2 different things as all the party gate stuff has shown us

The majority of people speaking out now against Boris never liked him, so they have nothing to lose. Cabinet members wont say anything against him until a vote of no confidence brings him down. If they did anything else they would be seen a disloyal. That's the nature of the game. So Andrew Neil won't get anything other than that in his interviews

I’m always surprised when ANY mp speaks out or criticises the leader .. presumably they make a mental note of any detractors

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Zizu · 26-01-2022, 11:53 AM

So David Davis has told Boris to GO !

How can he be a fair minded guest on the show ??

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Liam- · 26-01-2022, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Zizu

I’m always surprised when ANY mp speaks out or criticises the leader .. presumably they make a mental note of any detractors

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You do realise that’s dictatorship right? Keeping not of anyone that goes against the leader to, I presume, punish them for it?

Zizu · 26-01-2022, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Liam-

You do realise that’s dictatorship right? Keeping not of anyone that goes against the leader to, I presume, punish them for it?

We are in the real world , of course

Say you were the leader and I was against you on some vital areas -?then I would not expect to rise to any great heights in the party tbh

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arista · 26-01-2022, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Zizu

So David Davis has told Boris to GO !

How can he be a fair minded guest on the show ??

Yes Good point
it is due to him being a senior MP

Zizu · 26-01-2022, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by arista

Yes Good point
it is due to him being a senior MP

No point in watching if at least one participant wants him out ...

Not a great starting point for a debate

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Crimson Dynamo · 26-01-2022, 01:22 PM

Boris caught in ANOTHER lie as damning emails prove he DID help Carrie's
friend airlift animal charity out of Kabul

AnnieK · 26-01-2022, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Zizu

No point in watching if at least one participant wants him out ...

Not a great starting point for a debate

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But its not a debate at all if they are all on the same side. Then its just a damage limitation exercise

Zizu · 26-01-2022, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by AnnieK

But its not a debate at all if they are all on the same side. Then its just a damage limitation exercise

When one simply wants him out ?
Where’s the damage limitation there ?

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bots · 26-01-2022, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Zizu

When one simply wants him out ?
Where’s the damage limitation there ?

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there will be the "apologists" too that simply dont think Boris did anything wrong, so provided there is a balance for and against it really doesnt matter.

Also, it doesnt matter what they debate ... if they dont get 54 letters saying they have no confidence it is irrelevant ... even if they did get the 54, they then have to hold a vote and get more than 50% of tory mps that want him out, and thats very unlikely to happen

arista · 26-01-2022, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zizu

No point in watching if at least one participant wants him out ...

Not a great starting point for a debate

Lord Frost
former Brexit Chief

Will be worth watching

Sunday Ch4HD 6:45PM

AnnieK · 26-01-2022, 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zizu

When one simply wants him out ?
Where’s the damage limitation there ?

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That would not be a debate though.....if all of them are firmly pro-Boris regardless where is the debate? To be a debate there has to be more than one point of view.

glib · 26-01-2022, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Liam-

You do realise that’s dictatorship right? Keeping not of anyone that goes against the leader to, I presume, punish them for it?

Oh for goodness sake the UK is not a dictatorship.

How’s he going to punish them? Serve them with cold cups of tea?

Zizu · 26-01-2022, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by AnnieK

That would not be a debate though.....if all of them are firmly pro-Boris regardless where is the debate? To be a debate there has to be more than one point of view.

I was kinda expecting an open minded gathering ... if one has said he has to go .. .. presumably one of the others will defend him ....

Waste of time watching surely

They may as well just invite Starmer and Boris’s wife to give their views

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