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Old 25-06-2022, 01:58 PM #76
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Ronald Reagan said, the only people who support abortion are those who had the great privilege of being born.
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Ronald Reagan said, the only people who support abortion are those who had the great privilege of being born.
I mean, that's fcuking genius. Probably not in the way he meant it to be, but top quality from the gipper.
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Conversely there are a great many couples who are childless, but not through choice. Something medically prevents them from having the children they want.

There is a shortage of candidates for adoption, so not every childless couple is able to adopt, so surely the answer to unwanted pregnancies, that are not literally life threatening to the mother is adoption of the child by these childless couples?
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Conversely there are a great many couples who are childless, but not through choice. Something medically prevents them from having the children they want.

There is a shortage of candidates for adoption, so not every childless couple is able to adopt, so surely the answer to unwanted pregnancies, that are not literally life threatening to the mother is adoption of the child by these childless couples?
So if for instance the woman was raped she should be forced to carry that child so some childless couple can have it? What about what that would do to her mental state
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What about a family who already has 4 kids and cannot afford to feed another mouth, should that woman carry that baby to full term and then explain to her children she is handing over their brother or sister to a stranger
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What about a family who already has 4 kids and cannot afford to feed another mouth, should that woman carry that baby to full term and then explain to her children she is handing over their brother or sister to a stranger
In the USA there are Charities
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How would you dealt with incest? Would you expect a 13 year old to carry her fathers or brothers baby?
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That is not the answer not every family is comfortable with charity
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The ‘freest country in the world’ just loves taking its citizens freedoms away from then doesn’t it
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Alabama does, unsurprisingly
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The ‘freest country in the world’ just loves taking its citizens freedoms away from then doesn’t it
No, its more like
one of the Freest countries in the world.



It is also a "New" Nation,
there was a fantastic time, when we ran the top half of America
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there will be so many knock on effects from this, and it's not an issue that is going to go away. America was already fractured, but this will make it much, much worse
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there will be so many knock on effects from this, and it's not an issue that is going to go away. America was already fractured, but this will make it much, much worse
Its their democratic system in operation and as such in every state they have the power to change it if that is the will of the people.
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Its their democratic system in operation and as such in every state they have the power to change it if that is the will of the people.
yeah i know and the truth is that the major population centres are all democrat, so there is no change there. However, an indicator of a forward thinking country is the freedoms that it offers it's people. This is the equivalent of the taliban taking control
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yeah i know and the truth is that the major population centres are all democrat, so there is no change there. However, an indicator of a forward thinking country is the freedoms that it offers it's people. This is the equivalent of the taliban taking control
Like guns its futile to try and judge USA by our standards

I am sure Putin is laughing however

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Alabama does, unsurprisingly
I get the whole adoption thing, but it is not the answer for childless couples to force a woman to take a pregnancy to full term, give birth and then hand the child over, I don’t think some men understand the connection that forms as the pregnancy advances, feeling the baby kick and the bond that forms, not to mention having to give birth to a child you will never hold, it’s one thing to enter a surrogacy arrangement with free will, it’s entirely different for someone who you might not even have voted for to decide you as a woman have to carry this child to term ...no mention of maintenance by the Dad either....they get off Scot Free as per
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There are hundreds of thousands of children in the system waiting to be adopted, why don’t the pro-lifers give those children homes rather than forcing people to bring even more unwanted children into the world.

I actually don’t even consider these people pro-life tbh, they’re pro-birth, they don’t give a **** what happens to a person after they’re born
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There are hundreds of thousands of children in the system waiting to be adopted, why don’t the pro-lifers give those children homes rather than forcing people to bring even more unwanted children into the world.

I actually don’t even consider these people pro-life tbh, they’re pro-birth, they don’t give a **** what happens to a person after they’re born
I guess they think that they deserve to be born when they have been conceived by actual living humans?

who have choice to make them

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A wee baby about to be born. No it's inconvenience. Kill it

A repeat paedo..NO he must live we can't kill people.

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So is it fair to say you support this, LT?
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Just asking a question. Being anti-abortion is a semi-understandable position. Not judging you for it.
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Just asking a question. Being anti-abortion is a semi-understandable position. Not judging you for it.
I'd stick to expressing your own opinions slim

Let's face it

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