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Old 12-10-2023, 09:46 AM #226
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Well she best now get prepared for life as to NOT being an MP at the next election.
Bizarre move.
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SNP... Conservatives... Labour. They're all bloody useless.
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it's one of the most bizarre switches
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SNP leader
at his conference

Talking to Victoria

He wants a New Policy
Referendum,
After a General Election?

[Humza Yousaf will attempt to “draw a line”
under the SNP’s independence policy at
this weekend’s party conference after a
failure to address concerns over the
cost of living crisis was blamed for its defeat
in the Rutherglen and Hamilton West byelection.

The conference opens on Sunday with a crucial debate
on Yousaf’s proposals to seek a mandate
at the next general election to open
independence negotiations with Westminster,
which has already attracted widespread
criticism from senior party figures.
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https://www.theguardian.com/politics...rty-conference

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SNP leader
at his conference

Talking to Victoria

He wants a New Policy
Referendum,
After a General Election?

[Humza Yousaf will attempt to “draw a line”
under the SNP’s independence policy at
this weekend’s party conference after a
failure to address concerns over the
cost of living crisis was blamed for its defeat
in the Rutherglen and Hamilton West byelection.

The conference opens on Sunday with a crucial debate
on Yousaf’s proposals to seek a mandate
at the next general election to open
independence negotiations with Westminster,
which has already attracted widespread
criticism from senior party figures.
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https://www.theguardian.com/politics...rty-conference
Im amazed he wasnt at one of the despicable "pro-terrorism" marches

becuase that is where his heart really lies
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Speakers scheduled to appear at a pro-Palestinian event at the SNP conference
blamed Israel for Hamas terrorism and described last weekend’s attacks as a
“dream coming true”.

The party’s leadership was urged to block the appearance of the two guests on
an “expert panel” for a fringe event, organised by the SNP Friends of Palestine
group, over the “deeply inflammatory” remarks.



https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...m-coming-true/
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BBC2HD Live is doing a Conference Special

For the SNP.


Because of the Israel War
it is not Simulcast.


So One
channel for the SNP speech in around 10 mins


The Scottish Reporter up in
Scotland just it is a low-key event.

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SNP rejects using next election as 'de facto' referendum on independence

The SNP will not use the next general election as a de facto independence referendum, in a shift away from the strategy employed by Nicola Sturgeon.

Humza Yousaf, the SNP's current leader and the first minister of Scotland, backed the switch away from his predecessor's position.

He said using the next general election as a de facto referendum for independence is the "wrong approach" to take.

https://news.sky.com/story/snp-rejec...ola%20Sturgeon.


So when they had the semblance of credibility, the elections were a de-facto referendum. Not they haven't, they aren't.

Coincidence, I'm sure.
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The Leader of the SNP
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And the News Channels
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Orkney Islands Council
demands Ł500Million
to stay in the UK.


James Stockan
the council Leader wants a Ambassador
up there...................


Can Bog Off.



Debated on 1st show Ch5HD AM
Paper Review.


Today's Telegraph
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I struggle to name anything tangible that the SNP have delivered in recent years, I think it's time they go. I don't know who I'd vote to replace them but they've just settled into this fairly meaningless centre ground where Nicola Sturgeon's main accomplishment and purpose was to deliver zippy zingers about Westminster politicians, which was entertaining but she could do that on a late night comedy panel show. Humza Yousaf... has inherited the leadership and there's no platform to speak of. I'd be stunned if they are re-elected.
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Humza Useless
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[Former SNP leadership candidate
Ash Regan defects to Alba party]

[Alba said her decision came after
increasing disillusionment with the SNP's leadership
and its "wavering commitment" to
Scottish independence.
Ms Regan, 49, was elected as SNP MSP
for Edinburgh Eastern

at the last election and becomes
the Alba party's first representative
at Holyrood.]

[She came third in the SNP leadership contest
won by Humza Yousaf in March.]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-67248844

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So when they had the semblance of credibility, the elections were a de-facto referendum. Not they haven't, they aren't.

Coincidence, I'm sure.
I think you can assume that anyone who votes SNP is vaguely pro-independence... however, the inverse isn't true - you can't assume that everyone who is pro-independence will vote SNP. And for various reasons (not in any way related to the independence debate) the number of pro-indy Scots who can stomach voting SNP is reducing.

This stance from them... just proves that they know it.

I'm still more or less pro-indy (although I think it now matters less than it did - we missed the boat timings wise) however I find it very difficult to mark the SNP box these days.
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What they really need to do is move independence away from politics to gain traction, but of course, that's just not possible
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What they really need to do is move independence away from politics to gain traction, but of course, that's just not possible
At least away from party-politics, but as you say it's impossible. It's too tied up with espatblished politics, class, royalty, sectarianism... all sorts of complex things outside of all it should be about (economic viability/prosperity).
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