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arista · 03-05-2024, 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTVN

So now that council for four years will just have a load of people who mainly care about hating on Israel

Good for local people and services

Yes Labour is not talking about Oldham.

arista · 03-05-2024, 07:43 AM

Good on Richard Holden MP Conservative Chairman
Told Ed Balls on GMBHD itv

He is a Hack...........

arista · 03-05-2024, 07:45 AM

Starmer now Live in Blackpool
with his deputy.

Of Course a big swing

But The Conservative MP was corrupt
It was Labour expected to win.

Shame No one Shouts out OLDHAM

arista · 03-05-2024, 07:49 AM

Press now talking to Starmer

Mention OLDHAM will you
so far no one has

joeysteele · 03-05-2024, 08:45 AM

Oldham was expected.

There's other areas too like Burnley where Labour will be hit by the fury from former Councillors livid at the Party's failure to address the Israel/Palestine issue to their satisfaction.

That issue if Starmer doesn't get things smoothed over will remain a problem for him.
Even in a few seats in the general election.

joeysteele · 03-05-2024, 08:47 AM

Good grief.
The new Labour MP Chris Webb in Blackpool South.
Was more like reading a book than making a victory speech.

I'm pleased to see someone else is like myself who sometimes go on and on and on.

bots · 03-05-2024, 09:18 AM

Former Conservative Prime Minister Boris Johnson was turned away from his local polling station after forgetting to bring acceptable photo ID.

As first reported by Sky News, he returned later with the necessary ID and was able to vote.

He cast his ballot in South Oxfordshire, where voters are choosing a police and crime commissioner.

New rules requiring photo ID to vote were introduced by Mr Johnson's government in the Elections Act 2022.

The change was rolled out last year, with local elections in May 2023 the first time voters needed to show ID.

According to the Electoral Commission, about 14,000 people were unable to vote in last year's local elections in England as a result of the new rules.

joeysteele · 03-05-2024, 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Former Conservative Prime Minister Boris Johnson was turned away from his local polling station after forgetting to bring acceptable photo ID.

As first reported by Sky News, he returned later with the necessary ID and was able to vote.

He cast his ballot in South Oxfordshire, where voters are choosing a police and crime commissioner.

New rules requiring photo ID to vote were introduced by Mr Johnson's government in the Elections Act 2022.

The change was rolled out last year, with local elections in May 2023 the first time voters needed to show ID.

According to the Electoral Commission, about 14,000 people were unable to vote in last year's local elections in England as a result of the new rules.

I think I said earlier somewhere maybe on here.
Perhaps he wasn't sure of the rules or that they didn't apply to him.

joeysteele · 03-05-2024, 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista

Press now talking to Starmer

Mention OLDHAM will you
so far no one has

Labour will still run Oldham though.
It will just need support from a few others elected to the council.

It's still easily the largest party.

bots · 03-05-2024, 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Labour will still run Oldham though.
It will just need support from a few others elected to the council.

It's still easily the largest party.

all the other parties will come together to make sure the nutters can't do anything

arista · 03-05-2024, 10:32 AM

Good news for a Northern Mayor Ben
has Won.

Early Reports: LBC Live

arista · 03-05-2024, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Labour will still run Oldham though.
It will just need support from a few others elected to the council.

It's still easily the largest party.

Wrong
8 Independents and labour will run the Council

joeysteele · 03-05-2024, 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista

Wrong
8 Independents and labour will run the Council

Exactly, they'll get support from some others.

Labour is still the massively dominant party there.

arista · 03-05-2024, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Exactly, they'll get support from some others.

Labour is still the massively dominant party there.

It NOC

No Overal Control

These Independents have wrecked
labours plan,

Labour must agree to what they say.

Stop trying to make it not a NOC
JOEY

Be Fair

smudgie · 03-05-2024, 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista

Good news for a Northern Mayor Ben
has Won.

Early Reports: LBC Live

Not quite.
Still waiting for results from 2 wards.
He has won three out of five so far, including Hartlepool.
Fingers crossed for him, he is a good Mayor.

Crimson Dynamo · 03-05-2024, 10:59 AM

Reform might be about to wipe out the Tories

The Conservative party would have been lucky to have had a 1997-style wipeout. This result may prove terminal

Prof Sir John Curtice writes:

The overnight election results have been every bit as disappointing for the Conservatives as they might have feared.

The party is so far losing one in two of the seats they have been trying to defend. When all the results are in, it is at risk of suffering the catastrophic 500 losses of council seats that some analysts had predicted.

The party’s vote fell by 32.1 points in Blackpool South, making it the party’s third worst ever performance in a parliamentary by-election. With 16.9 per cent of the vote, its best performance yet, Reform appears to have done much of the damage.

Moreover, in the local elections the Conservative vote fell most heavily in those wards where Reform fielded a candidate. The only silver lining for Tory HQ was that Reform only contested one in six of the wards where there was an election on Thursday. A full slate would have been even more devastating.

Meanwhile, some of the evidence underneath the bonnet of the headlines will particularly worry the party.

First, detailed ward by ward results collected by the BBC suggest that on average support for the party is down on last year’s local elections. That slippage is consistent with the message of the opinion polls that, rather than closing the gap on Labour, the party has actually lost ground over the last twelve months.

Second, the fall in Conservative support is proving to be highest in the party’s heartlands. The better the Conservatives did locally in 2021, that is, when most of the seats being contested on Thursday were last fought, the greater the fall in their support now.

This pattern fits with the evidence of recent MRP polling, which suggested the Conservatives could win even fewer seats in the general election than the 165 to which they fell in 1997.

Third, Labour advanced most strongly by squeezing the Liberal Democrat vote in wards where the Tories were trying to fend off a Labour challenge.

If these patterns persist, it could cost the party dearly in the general election.

Downing St will be hoping for better news today, not least in Tees Valley where polls have suggested Ben Houchen could hang on to the post of Mayor. But on the evidence so far, possible isolated successes should not distract from the broader message of the local ballot boxes – the Conservative party is still in a very deep electoral hole.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...r-rishi-sunak/

arista · 03-05-2024, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smudgie

Not quite.
Still waiting for results from 2 wards.
He has won three out of five so far, including Hartlepool.
Fingers crossed for him, he is a good Mayor.

Labour have given in.

LBC said

joeysteele · 03-05-2024, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista

It NOC

No Overal Control

These Independents have wrecked
labours plan,

Labour must agree to what they say.

Stop trying to make it not a NOC
JOEY

Be Fair

arista what on earth are you on about.

It is a NOC control now.
Which means it needs 2 parties in coalition or the major one with support to run it.

It doesn't mean Labour will have to bow down and do all what others say.
They'll need to make concessions but it will still be Labour dominated.

Just as the councils where the Cons have lost their majority in.

joeysteele · 03-05-2024, 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smudgie

Not quite.
Still waiting for results from 2 wards.
He has won three out of five so far, including Hartlepool.
Fingers crossed for him, he is a good Mayor.

Oh yes, Ben Houchen .

He has been a really good Mayor for Teesside I agree.

There'll be a big swing to Labour but I'm glad he is near certain to hold it.
Equally too Andy Street in the West Midlands actually.

I like Ben Houchen.
He deserves to not suffer from his Party's errors and lack of popularity.

bots · 03-05-2024, 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Reform might be about to wipe out the Tories

The Conservative party would have been lucky to have had a 1997-style wipeout. This result may prove terminal

Prof Sir John Curtice writes:

The overnight election results have been every bit as disappointing for the Conservatives as they might have feared.

The party is so far losing one in two of the seats they have been trying to defend. When all the results are in, it is at risk of suffering the catastrophic 500 losses of council seats that some analysts had predicted.

The party’s vote fell by 32.1 points in Blackpool South, making it the party’s third worst ever performance in a parliamentary by-election. With 16.9 per cent of the vote, its best performance yet, Reform appears to have done much of the damage.

Moreover, in the local elections the Conservative vote fell most heavily in those wards where Reform fielded a candidate. The only silver lining for Tory HQ was that Reform only contested one in six of the wards where there was an election on Thursday. A full slate would have been even more devastating.

Meanwhile, some of the evidence underneath the bonnet of the headlines will particularly worry the party.

First, detailed ward by ward results collected by the BBC suggest that on average support for the party is down on last year’s local elections. That slippage is consistent with the message of the opinion polls that, rather than closing the gap on Labour, the party has actually lost ground over the last twelve months.

Second, the fall in Conservative support is proving to be highest in the party’s heartlands. The better the Conservatives did locally in 2021, that is, when most of the seats being contested on Thursday were last fought, the greater the fall in their support now.

This pattern fits with the evidence of recent MRP polling, which suggested the Conservatives could win even fewer seats in the general election than the 165 to which they fell in 1997.

Third, Labour advanced most strongly by squeezing the Liberal Democrat vote in wards where the Tories were trying to fend off a Labour challenge.

If these patterns persist, it could cost the party dearly in the general election.

Downing St will be hoping for better news today, not least in Tees Valley where polls have suggested Ben Houchen could hang on to the post of Mayor. But on the evidence so far, possible isolated successes should not distract from the broader message of the local ballot boxes – the Conservative party is still in a very deep electoral hole.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...r-rishi-sunak/

if the UK follows the way the USA is going, reform is basically the equivalent of maga, so it could be a major threat.

Reform becoming strong is probably one of the few things that would get me out voting, to make sure they don't get in