[Alf]

A new thread for the US election.

We have one for the UK election, so it's only right we have one for the most important election of our lifetime.

[Livia]

I think Trump will win and the Democrats have helped him no end.

[bots]

it's a giant issue, predominantly driven by peoples basic human behaviour. The GoP lie and object to anything they don't do, and the dems turn up their noses and act like they are beyond reproach and superior. Basically, 2 sides of the same coin

Trump is a crook, but the dems were going to let him away with it because he is a fellow elite up until the point he announced he was running and then thought .... lets get him


My big worry is that this will replicate here at the next election in 5 years

[The Slim Reaper]

I hate the weirdo dems, but they're not two sides of the same coin. GoP are infinitely worse. The dems would never have let Trump off. As keeps being ignored, it was the US DoJ that acted too slowly. They went above and beyond to make sure they had their cases in order because of the very accusations that it's Biden prosecuting trump, not the DoJ.

[Crimson Dynamo]

The Dems complicit woman and child-hating "turn a blind eye" policies and their disgusting illegal immigration policies should see them ousted

Viva La Donald

[bots]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

I hate the weirdo dems, but they're not two sides of the same coin. GoP are infinitely worse. The dems would never have let Trump off. As keeps being ignored, it was the US DoJ that acted too slowly. They went above and beyond to make sure they had their cases in order because of the very accusations that it's Biden prosecuting trump, not the DoJ.

It was elites protecting elites that delayed everything. They had 3 years to take action and didn't. Whether you like it or not, the dems contributed to the political mess that america finds itself in. They made half the population stop believing in democratic politics. So yes, they are 2 sides of the same coin.

The dems put up an 82 year old man for re-election that is clearly faltering, supported by what many people believe to be the most disliked and ineffectual VP they ever had. That is nobodies fault but the dems

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

It was elites protecting elites that delayed everything. They had 3 years to take action and didn't. Whether you like it or not, the dems contributed to the political mess that america finds itself in. They made half the population stop believing in democratic politics. So yes, they are 2 sides of the same coin.

The dems put up an 82 year old man for re-election that is clearly faltering, supported by what many people believe to be the most disliked and ineffectual VP they ever had. That is nobodies fault but the dems

the cadaver and his VP are a genuine embarrassment

Russia and China are genuinely pissing themselves at this woke weak s1tshow

[bots]

There haven't been many presidential elections where there is a fairly realistic possibility that either or both candidates may expire of old age prior to taking office in january

[Alf]

In the words of Michael Caine. In the Prestige.

"Are you watching closely"

[Crimson Dynamo]

they have already said that leak was from a lab

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

It was elites protecting elites that delayed everything. They had 3 years to take action and didn't. Whether you like it or not, the dems contributed to the political mess that america finds itself in. They made half the population stop believing in democratic politics. So yes, they are 2 sides of the same coin.

The dems put up an 82 year old man for re-election that is clearly faltering, supported by what many people believe to be the most disliked and ineffectual VP they ever had. That is nobodies fault but the dems

First bit isn't true, no matter how many times you repeat it. The dems have absolutely nothing to do with the trump prosecution, because if they did, he would have been prosecuted on Jan 11th. They impeached him twice, so you think they just suddenly decided they wanted him around? Please make it make even a semblance of sense.

GOP are literally on board to end democracy. I''m not even sure it was the dems that stopped the public believing their policies, when there are 24hr news channels pointing out why everyone to the left of trump is a marxist/communist/loony lefty (basically one of the 5 different posts that LT writes out in every thread).

The dems aren't my team, so I have no skin in the game, and again, I'm no Biden fan, but he has done a lot of decent things (for an American pres). Biden is a bad choice, but kicking him out was going to be difficult as a sitting pres. Bidens Achilles heel is Gaza, and that's what might depress the dem vote. The reason the US folks don't understand the good he's done is because the country is split, and those on trumps team get human centipede'd with the same kind of news

Trump is only 4 years younger, and is equally cognitively challenged. he's also badly degraded from 2016, but your focus is on Biden. I don't get where you're coming from at all.

What people believe is what they're told to believe, and I'm amazed that most people still don't get this fact. You see it in threads on here where people just regurgitate narratives that are floated by the media.

You've just bought into the myth of both siderism, without any critical thought.

[bots]

Trump can stand up for a couple of hours at a rally, he dyes his hair and paints his skin to look younger, biden does nothing (growing old gracefully) but perception is everything. Trump is not young, but Biden looks like Mr Burns.

You can deny my points if you like, but the dems are absolutely not innocent in this. Hillary coined the phrase deplorables to describe Maga. She may be right, but you don't win an election by saying things like that when you set yourself up as beyond reproach

The GoP behave the way they do because they know the dems can't cope with it and i've watched enough independent left wing news channels to know that they believe they are superior to GoP and maga in every measure. Some of the things they complain about are utter trivia in the global scheme of things

[Alf]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

First bit isn't true, no matter how many times you repeat it. The dems have absolutely nothing to do with the trump prosecution, because if they did, he would have been prosecuted on Jan 11th. They impeached him twice, so you think they just suddenly decided they wanted him around? Please make it make even a semblance of sense.

GOP are literally on board to end democracy. I''m not even sure it was the dems that stopped the public believing their policies, when there are 24hr news channels pointing out why everyone to the left of trump is a marxist/communist/loony lefty (basically one of the 5 different posts that LT writes out in every thread).

The dems aren't my team, so I have no skin in the game, and again, I'm no Biden fan, but he has done a lot of decent things (for an American pres). Biden is a bad choice, but kicking him out was going to be difficult as a sitting pres. Bidens Achilles heel is Gaza, and that's what might depress the dem vote. The reason the US folks don't understand the good he's done is because the country is split, and those on trumps team get human centipede'd with the same kind of news

Trump is only 4 years younger, and is equally cognitively challenged. he's also badly degraded from 2016, but your focus is on Biden. I don't get where you're coming from at all.

What people believe is what they're told to believe, and I'm amazed that most people still don't get this fact. You see it in threads on here where people just regurgitate narratives that are floated by the media.

You've just bought into the myth of both siderism, without any critical thought.

Is your narrative floated by the media?

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Trump can stand up for a couple of hours at a rally, he dyes his hair and paints his skin to look younger, biden does nothing (growing old gracefully) but perception is everything. Trump is not young, but Biden looks like Mr Burns.

You can deny my points if you like, but the dems are absolutely not innocent in this. Hillary coined the phrase deplorables to describe Maga. She may be right, but you don't win an election by saying things like that when you set yourself up as beyond reproach

The GoP behave the way they do because they know the dems can't cope with it and i've watched enough independent left wing news channels to know that they believe they are superior to GoP and maga in every measure. Some of the things they complain about are utter trivia in the global scheme of things

Well you've moved away from saying dems were to blame for the slow walking of trumps prosecutions to something Hilary said in 2016. Maybe you weren't ready to stand ten toes down on a point you've made.

Dems are superior, because the don't want to put a dictator in place. It's just insane that you're both sideing what the GOP stand for versus what the dems stand for. That point alone should highlight exactly why it isn't 2 sides of the same coin. You're also blaming the dems for not being able to cope with the once in multiple generation assault on democracy being undertaken by the GOP. It's insane bots. I know you're getting angry as I can see it in your posts, but there's no need. It's just a friendly chat

America doesn't have any left wing news channels, so please tell me what you've watched. I know as a tory, you're probably automatically more aligned with what the gop, but they are the most underhanded bunch of folks imaginable.

[Crimson Dynamo]

" The dems have absolutely nothing to do with the trump prosecution"

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Alf

Is your narrative floated by the media?

What narrative? I've already said Trump is going to win. It doesn't affect the reality of what is actually happening.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

What narrative? I've already said Trump is going to win. It doesn't affect the reality of what is actually happening.

It was just that you said this in the post I quoted.

"You see it in threads on here where people just regurgitate narratives that are floated by the media"

I was just asking if you include yourself in that or not?

[Alf]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Well you've moved away from saying dems were to blame for the slow walking of trumps prosecutions to something Hilary said in 2016. Maybe you weren't ready to stand ten toes down on a point you've made.

Dems are superior, because the don't want to put a dictator in place. It's just insane that you're both sideing what the GOP stand for versus what the dems stand for. That point alone should highlight exactly why it isn't 2 sides of the same coin. You're also blaming the dems for not being able to cope with the once in multiple generation assault on democracy being undertaken by the GOP. It's insane bots. I know you're getting angry as I can see it in your posts, but there's no need. It's just a friendly chat

America doesn't have any left wing news channels, so please tell me what you've watched. I know as a tory, you're probably automatically more aligned with what the gop, but they are the most underhanded bunch of folks imaginable.

Let's say you're correct in that America doesn't have left wing news channels.

What about news channels that are anti-Donald Trump to an extreme that's never been seen before to a Presidential candidate. Do they exist?

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Alf

It was just that you said this in the post I quoted.

"You see it in threads on here where people just regurgitate narratives that are floated by the media"

I was just asking if you include yourself in that or not?

I think my posts are overwhelmingly in contradiction to what the media is talking about, and that's the best way I can answer that question.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Alf

Let's say you're correct in that America doesn't have left wing news channels.

What about news channels that are anti-Donald Trump to an extreme that's never been seen before to a Presidential candidate. Do they exist?

I'd say that only MSNBC is generally hostile to trump as a major news channel, but they aren't anywhere near left wing.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

I'd say that only MSNBC is generally hostile to trump as a major news channel, but they aren't anywhere near left wing.

I agree.

[Liam-]

The intellectual dishonesty to even try and compare both sides of the aisle is just ridiculous at this point, only one side is actively trying to roll back rights for its citizens to the dark ages, only one side is voting to weaken child labour laws, only one side has party members campaigning to block law changes that would make child marriage illegal, only one side is taking tax payer money and using it to try and protect their cult leader from facing the consequences of his actions, the democrats are far from perfect, but let’s not be silly and actually try and equate the two parties

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

It was elites protecting elites that delayed everything. They had 3 years to take action and didn't. Whether you like it or not, the dems contributed to the political mess that america finds itself in. They made half the population stop believing in democratic politics. So yes, they are 2 sides of the same coin.

The dems put up an 82 year old man for re-election that is clearly faltering, supported by what many people believe to be the most disliked and ineffectual VP they ever had. That is nobodies fault but the dems

Tbf, Trump is no spring chicken.

The US needs a third party desperately, because the two main parties are taking their people for mugs.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Liam-

The intellectual dishonesty to even try and compare both sides of the aisle is just ridiculous at this point, only one side is actively trying to roll back rights for its citizens to the dark ages, only one side is voting to weaken child labour laws, only one side has party members campaigning to block law changes that would make child marriage illegal, only one side is taking tax payer money and using it to try and protect their cult leader from facing the consequences of his actions, the democrats are far from perfect, but let’s not be silly and actually try and equate the two parties

The Republicans are in support of child marriage?

What happened to "think of the kids" and "protect the kids" and "the gays are out to molest the kids?" It almost feels like the Republicans were lying to people.

[Alf]

I don't even think Biden will run as the Democrats candidate.