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Old 10-06-2024, 09:40 PM #626
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Both - I find it interesting, and it's a coincidence. But an interesting one.




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usually, the party that is behind in the polls gets a boost when the election is announced, but Sunak has single handily tanked the tories chances. I would normally say, oops he made a mistake, but it's been a whole string of stuff designed to tank the vote. At this point, i'm pretty certain it's intentional. I think he wants the tories wiped out. It will no doubt become clear in the months and years ahead why he chose to do it
Tbf it's not really him that's the problem.

The Tories have been terrible since David Cameron got into power for his first term, and they've just ran out of people to blame their incompetence on by the time that it's came around to Sunak.
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That may not be possible Zizu.

If things stay as they are it's getting more expected that she'll lose her seat in Portsmouth.

She'd be a far better prospect for the Cons than Sunak ever could be however.
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So Labour will build New Prisons
and any homes near them are stuck there.
I can get behind this.
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8PM - 8:30PM BBC1HD tonight

Nick Robinson has a 25mins interview with Sunak


I will record it.



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he pushed Rishi on Farage.


Good Format
Leaders do not have notes
One on One.


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NewsnightHD BBC2

Right To Buy is back
to help younger folks

Today is the Conservative Manifesto


Are you ready Joey?

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That may not be possible Zizu.

If things stay as they are it's getting more expected that she'll lose her seat in Portsmouth.

She'd be a far better prospect for the Cons than Sunak ever could be however.

The Tories should throw all their energies into assuring she wins her seat .

I always assumed the top serving politicians got preferential treatment to avoid any embarrassment ..


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NewsnightHD BBC2

Right To Buy is back
to help younger folks

Today is the Conservative Manifesto


Are you ready Joey?

Wonder how Angela Rayner will handle that ‘hot potato’


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I'm not a hypocrite': Angela Rayner hits back after its revealed she made a Ł48k profit when selling her ex-council house under the right-to-buy scheme Labour now wants to overhaul




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Right To Buy is back
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Today is the Conservative Manifesto


Are you ready Joey?
As I understand right to buy won't help the young since they won't be the tenants anyhow to buy the property.

I think manifestos are largely irrelevant.
I've canvassed in elections since 2015.
I've yet to hear someone saying they had A manifesto or manifestos, never mind even read any.

It would seem that Sunak is doing what Corbyn did in 2019.
Throwing anything out there recklessly.

Manifestos only now really give a guide to what may be done.
Not fully what will be .
Sunak unlike Starmer is looking like going down the road of over promising to end up under delivering again

Whereas Starmer is likely to be going to end up under promising in the hope of over delivering.
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all the parties are weak. They have thousands of things that they need to improve with no cash to do it. The tories and labour have committed to not raising taxes, so the only way they can meaningfully increase spending is through economic growth and that can't be significantly increased in 5 years. So, whoever wins, is out of luck
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[It would seem that Sunak is doing what Corbyn did in 2019.
Throwing anything out there recklessly.]

Yes Starmer stated Sunak is doing a Corbyn Manifesto.


How nice for Slim.

We get Starmer's on Thursday
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Live on all 3 News Channels,


Conservative Manifesto with cabinet members

Gillian Ed Sec.

Silverstone

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Gillian Ed Sec.

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Our local Mayor is going for it now.
Ben Houchen has done marvels as The Tees Valley mayor.
Our local mp is also ok, but I am afraid the Tories have had their day.
Not sure what would be a better alternative at this time mind.
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Now they all clapping Sunak?
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Our local Mayor is going for it now.
Ben Houchen has done marvels as The Tees Valley mayor.
Our local mp is also ok, but I am afraid the Tories have had their day.
Not sure what would be a better alternative at this time mind.
i don't honestly think it matters at this point

Labour or tory governments are both hamstrung before they start, so things will just go into a holding pattern for 5 years until the next election, by which time things may have changed, or more than likely, will just be as they are now. Global events are of far greater importance in the short and medium term, none of which we have any real influence over
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Our local Mayor is going for it now.
Ben Houchen has done marvels as The Tees Valley mayor.
Our local mp is also ok, but I am afraid the Tories have had their day.
Not sure what would be a better alternative at this time mind.

Yes one of the good ones
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I hate politicians and politics !!

The tories announce loads of tax cuts and reducing national insurance when the NHS , the police , education and defence are all grossly underfunded !!


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Rachel Reeves
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having a go at Sunak
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I know for sure I'll be underwhelmed by the manifesto from Labour this time.
When it is revealed this week.

However, somehow I expected more than what came from the Cons today.
It was also underwhelming.
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