[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…don’t any volunteers who go, go exactly as that…in their own time and at their own expense…I guess that it’s possibly like a work experience in experiencing part of the workings of another country election process…

Yes exactly.
It's individuals by choice wanting to go.

No elected representatives just ordinary people who happen to be members of a Party.

It's happened for decades Ammi.
My fury is, no one has complained when it was from the Cons, or other Parties, Inc UKIP when it was UKIP.
Nor any complaint Farage, now leader of UKIP MK3 in Reform.

Yes you are right however, that is how it usually works.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I note the silence that it appears it's fine for an elected leader of Reform in Farage to go and support Trump though.
How hypocritical.

Nige following his senpai around is a little different to sending scores of door-knockers to swing states.

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Yes exactly.
It's individuals by choice wanting to go.

No elected representatives just ordinary people who happen to be members of a Party.

It's happened for decades Ammi.
My fury is, no one has complained when it was from the Cons, or other Parties, Inc UKIP when it was UKIP.
Nor any complaint Farage, now leader of UKIP MK3 in Reform.

Yes you are right however, that is how it usually works.

The LinkedIn post says 100 current and former party officials. It was there in black and white till they conveniently deleted it.

[Glenn.]

It’s hilarious to watch someone be so indignant on a subject they have no idea about

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

It’s hilarious to watch someone be so indignant on a subject they have no idea about

I have enough of an idea to be confident in what I have said.

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Nige following his senpai around is a little different to sending scores of door-knockers to swing states.

Correct Oliver.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kate!

Excuse me. The thread title is perfectly fine. It doesn't allege in any way that the volunteers got paid. Look again at where I quoted Sofia Patels statement on LinkedIn where she confirms 100 volunteers went out there and that they were offered housing for the duration. Oh hang on you can't check it, it's been deleted I think.

So what???
She's not an elected MP.

What she supports personally and independently is up to her asong as it's not illegal.
No matter the status as a member she's NOT an elected MP.
So what's your inference.

Either you are still insistent in your thread title that LABOUR SENT these people.
Which is absolutely misleading in that very wording.
Or you are also accusing that woman of wrongdoing from her personal position.

You, ONLY YOU made this thread and presented the title as fact.
I don't need to check it out, I could have gone myself and was tempted to as I'd do just about anything to not have Trump.back as President.

So had I actually gone over, just WHAT would you have been ACCUSING me of Kate.
When all Id have been doing is what YOUR Party leader has done in the last 3 elections for Trump.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I agree he can be funny albeit more deranged so.
Good grief he's complaining at our government possibly because he fears losing again.
Yet the Republicans in elections past have had support from political supporters from the UK in past USA elections too.

It's the title of this thread I am furious about.
In saying Labour SENT these people.
These are people immaterial of their status as members who are NOT elected and independently wanted to go by choice.
NOT sent by any Party.

Because the thread title is misleading in its format and question.
IN MY OPINION.
The opening post acting like both judge and jury too.

Oh, he is very deranged I agree with you on that.

And I had a feeling that you were bothered by the title primarily.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Nige following his senpai around is a little different to sending scores of door-knockers to swing states.

Senpai? I like that term for Farage's view of Trump.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

So what???
She's not an elected MP.

What she supports personally and independently is up to her asong as it's not illegal.
No matter the status as a member she's NOT an elected MP.
So what's your inference.

Either you are still insistent in your thread title that LABOUR SENT these people.
Which is absolutely misleading in that very wording.
Or you are also accusing that woman of wrongdoing from her personal position.

You, ONLY YOU made this thread and presented the title as fact.
I don't need to check it out, I could have gone myself and was tempted to as I'd do just about anything to not have Trump.back as President.

So had I actually gone over, just WHAT would you have been ACCUSING me of Kate.
When all Id have been doing is what YOUR Party leader has done in the last 3 elections for Trump.

So Sofia Patel is not an MP?

I'm casual with my Politics, so I'm just trying to keep up.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kate!

The LinkedIn post says 100 current and former party officials. It was there in black and white till they conveniently deleted it.

What?
Officiais are not elected MPs !!!!!???

They have independent lives too.

There's no difference either to Farage going to help Trump get elected.
It's exactly the same thing.
Whether they're friends or not.
Plus he IS an elected MP and was also an Elected member of the European Parliament too.

I actually wouldn't personally object if MPs even went to support there anyhow.
So I'm.not even condemning Farage for doing so.
Unlike you with other Parties volunteers independently doing so.

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

So what???
She's not an elected MP.

What she supports personally and independently is up to her asong as it's not illegal.
No matter the status as a member she's NOT an elected MP.
So what's your inference.

Either you are still insistent in your thread title that LABOUR SENT these people.
Which is absolutely misleading in that very wording.
Or you are also accusing that woman of wrongdoing from her personal position.

You, ONLY YOU made this thread and presented the title as fact.
I don't need to check it out, I could have gone myself and was tempted to as I'd do just about anything to not have Trump.back as President.

So had I actually gone over, just WHAT would you have been ACCUSING me of Kate.
When all Id have been doing is what YOUR Party leader has done in the last 3 elections for Trump.

She is the Head Of Operations. She's in a position of authority. She confirmed 100 current and former party officials had been dispatched.

You're being rather obtuse Joey. How many times should I quote her?

I wouldn't be ACCUSING you of anything. Yet again...my thread title and OP were posed.as questions? Why can't you seem to get this?

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

What?
Officiais are not elected MPs !!!!!???

They have independent lives too.

There's no difference either to Farage going to help Trump get elected.
It's exactly the same thing.
Whether they're friends or not.
Plus he IS an elected MP and was also an Elected member of the European Parliament too.

I actually wouldn't personally object if MPs even went to support there anyhow.
So I'm.not even condemning Farage for doing so.
Unlike you with other Parties volunteers independently doing so.

Officials ARE representatives of the Labour Party. It does not look good for 100 of them to firmly endorse one candidate over another. It is interference. That's my point.

[Kate!]

Why then are Labour hellbent on these Officials door knocking for Kamala? Is it because she's a pushover and inconsistent in her policies? She seems to say whatever it takes to try and get the votes. Can she walk the walk? Doubt it. Labour dint want to have to deal with Trump, that's what it boils down to. IN MY OPINION.

[Mystic Mock]

Can we all agree that this is a bop.

Youtube video

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kate!

She is the Head Of Operations. She's in a position of authority. She confirmed 100 current and former party officials had been dispatched.

You're being rather obtuse Joey. How many times should I quote her?

I wouldn't be ACCUSING you of anything. Yet again...my thread title and OP were posed.as questions? Why can't you seem to get this?

So what'?

She still has her independent life and can do what she likes as long as it's legal.
Like the rest of us

Her work for LABOUR like with all other members, doesn't mean she cannot engage in personal and independent other activities.

Or have you something against this particular individual to still be insisting rather than her.
That it's Labour who sent these volunteers over.
The volunteers didn't go by their OWN choice.

You can quote her all you like.
That doesn't make your accusations against the Labour party anymore valid though in your thread title.

Why don't you ask.
Is it reasonable acceptable for Reform Leader to go to canvass for Trump in USA elections.
If you can't see the hypocrisy I hope others will.

[Viz]

The word "officials" keeps being used by disingenuous actors.

The wording was actually "100 Labour Party staff (current and former)". Nothing about "officials" that is somehow regurgitated. (Staff being butchers, bakers, candlestick makers)

Goes to show what misinformation does I suppose.

[Viz]

I made a cup of tea for Diane Abbott back in 2015. I suppose that makes me a "Labour Official" too according to this thread.

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

So what'?

She still has her independent life and can do what she likes as long as it's legal.
Like the rest of us

Her work for LABOUR like with all other members, doesn't mean she cannot engage in personal and independent other activities.

Or have you something against this particular individual to still be insisting rather than her.
That it's Labour who sent these volunteers over.
The volunteers didn't go by their OWN choice.

You can quote her all you like.
That doesn't make your accusations against the Labour party anymore valid though in your thread title.

Why don't you ask.
Is it reasonable acceptable for Reform Leader to go to canvass for Trump in USA elections.
If you can't see the hypocrisy I hope others will.

It isn't hypocrisy. Like Oliver said there's a world of difference between Nigel helping Trump and 100 actual representatives going to doorknock for Kamala.

So if there's nothing wrong with that, how come there's an enquiry ongoing? It's interference.

[Glenn.]

What is the problem with people doing that in their own time?

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by Viz

The word "officials" keeps being used by disingenuous actors.

The wording was actually "100 Labour Party staff (current and former)". Nothing about "officials" that is somehow regurgitated. (Staff being butchers, bakers, candlestick makers)

Goes to show what misinformation does I suppose.

Regardless of whether they are officials or staff they are STILL representative of the Labour Party and as such it is totally inappropriate for them to doorknock for Kamala. That's what's being investigated. That's the whole point of the thread.

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

What is the problem with people doing that in their own time?

Because they are doing it in the capacity of being Labour representatives of course? It is just not right to endorse one particular candidate.

[Viz]

Originally Posted by Kate!

Regardless of whether they are officials or staff they are STILL representative of the Labour Party and as such it is totally inappropriate for them to doorknock for Kamala. That's what's being investigated. That's the whole point of the thread.

I don't think you understand what the difference is between claiming "100 Labour officials" (lol) and "100 current and former Labour staff" is in regards to this situation. If you are happy to learn the difference between those terms then I am happy to continue with the conversation.

[Oliver_W]

Youtube video

Happier times.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kate!

Because they are doing it in the capacity of being Labour representatives of course? It is just not right to endorse one particular candidate.

Another misleading comment there.
They are not Labour representatives over there, they are there from their own choice.
That's a shocking slur on their efforts and free choice.

I can see why you support Trump.

The complainant is Trump and his team only.
How then is it really right in that case for a leader of a UK Party to endorse Trump in the same election.

If it's fine for him, it's fine for others.
Or would it not matter you if these volunteers had gone over WITH Farage to endorse and support Trump.
Would you have made this misleading thread on a public forum then in that case against Farage and Reform.

If anyone's not listening here Kate, it's certainly not me who isn't!!!